Dwight Howard is a father

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Post#21 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:50 pm

AbdicatedReign wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Also, and perhaps the most important point, is that no one is perfect, and anyone who lives with a spiritual faith at the core of their being acknowledges and respects that. Being a devout Christian and having a child out of wedlock aren't mutually exclusive. This says nothing either way about the man's faith. New life is a gift, simple as that.


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Post#22 » by Liqourish » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:57 pm

There is no Christian sect that looks at premarital sex as anything but a sin. Respecting the sinner is another matter all together. I'm not one to condemn anyones actions, but to claim what he did, as a christian, was not a sin, is a falsehood through and through.

I am happy for Dwight though, I hope he turns into a great father. Seeing as he is a nice young man, I have no doubt he will. Congrats Dwights. :clap:
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Post#23 » by blkout » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:57 pm

"I'm not going to deny it. Yes, I have a son," Howard said.


He sounds thrilled :lol:
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Post#24 » by BooRadley » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:58 pm

I wanna see Dwight's kid play one on one against Lebron's.
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Post#25 » by rumdiary » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:59 pm

Good for him, he lives in the sensible gray area between extreme conservatism and extreme liberalism.

lil baby Braylon's gonna be a stud someday, lol
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Post#26 » by realball » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:03 pm

well, no ones gonna **** around with THAT kid on the playground
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Post#27 » by BillessuR6 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:03 pm

Good job, girl! Now you are rich! :nonono:

You can`t blame Dwight for having sex with goodlooking girls, who wouldn`t. But as a pro athlete you have to be extra careful!
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Post#28 » by AbdicatedReign » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:10 pm

Liqourish wrote:There is no Christian sect that looks at premarital sex as anything but a sin. Respecting the sinner is another matter all together. I'm not one to condemn anyones actions, but to claim what he did, as a christian, was not a sin, is a falsehood through and through.


No, your statement is incorrect. There are, in fact, Christian denominations that actually respect an individual's relationship with their faith and their ability to critically approach Scripture to make an informed decision. Granted, most cling tightly to the traditional norms and make the situation black and white, but not all. This is an excerpt from the American Baptist Policy Statement on Family Life:

"We affirm that for Christian disciples choices about singleness, marriage, parenthood, and living in covenantal, intentional family arrangements are to be made soberly, with prayer, and as integral parts of the Christian's response to God's call in Jesus Christ. We affirm the competence of the individual soul to determine God's will in such matters through the reading and interpreting of Scripture, through dialogue with God, by considering the teaching and counsel of the Christian community, and by seeking and testing the wisdom of sisters and brothers in Christ."

The point is, despite what the current Christian traditions (informed more by society than Scripture) would have one believe, when and with who one has sex with is a personal choice to be made after much reflection and prayer, not one mandated in clear and incorruptible commands.
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Post#29 » by Cevap » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:13 pm

thebirdman wrote:Good job, girl! Now you are rich! :nonono:

You can`t blame Dwight for having sex with goodlooking girls, who wouldn`t. But as a pro athlete you have to be extra careful!



what's that smiley allabout?? :roll:
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Post#30 » by Liqourish » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:31 pm

AbdicatedReign wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



No, your statement is incorrect. There are, in fact, Christian denominations that actually respect an individual's relationship with their faith and their ability to critically approach Scripture to make an informed decision. Granted, most cling tightly to the traditional norms and make the situation black and white, but not all. This is an excerpt from the American Baptist Policy Statement on Family Life:

"We affirm that for Christian disciples choices about singleness, marriage, parenthood, and living in covenantal, intentional family arrangements are to be made soberly, with prayer, and as integral parts of the Christian's response to God's call in Jesus Christ. We affirm the competence of the individual soul to determine God's will in such matters through the reading and interpreting of Scripture, through dialogue with God, by considering the teaching and counsel of the Christian community, and by seeking and testing the wisdom of sisters and brothers in Christ."

The point is, despite what the current Christian traditions (informed more by society than Scripture) would have one believe, when and with who one has sex with is a personal choice to be made after much reflection and prayer, not one mandated in clear and incorruptible commands.


So, pray, consult scripture and look for wisedom of fellow christians. Where does it say that it's not a sin? Your interpretation does not make it factual. In fact, what you have quoted only states that one should consult scripture... What you posted is not scripture.
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Post#31 » by G-Heel » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:39 pm

Congrat to Dwight! I'll keep an eye on Braylon in 18-19 years.

As for it being sinful.. It's ok, just pray and ask for forgiveness.. that solve everything.
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Post#32 » by BooRadley » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:40 pm

Dwight and Braylon in the NBA at the same time?? That'd be awesome.
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Post#33 » by mr.ankle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:50 pm

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You're painting with rather broad brush strokes. There are many Christian denominations that don't specifically state premarital sex as a sin, but rather leave it up to the individual in their personal faith to make the decision after consulting with various sources. And speaking from a biblical standpoint, there is very little to nothing in the text that actually condemns premarital sex. Adultery, lust and promiscuity are all specifically addressed, but premarital sex is only warned against, with suggestions that there are better ways.

Also, and perhaps the most important point, is that no one is perfect, and anyone who lives with a spiritual faith at the core of their being acknowledges and respects that. Being a devout Christian and having a child out of wedlock aren't mutually exclusive. This says nothing either way about the man's faith. New life is a gift, simple as that.


What denominations says premarital sex is ok . ? I think you are making stuff up .
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Post#34 » by triplet1984 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:52 pm

the premarital sex thing is one of the reasons i'll never take organized religious seriously (what others believe isnt my concern so they can do whatever).... any organization that says sex with women is a bad thing isn't a group I want to be part of.
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Post#35 » by kookie_819 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:57 pm

Why does religion matter so much? It's his private life, and some people are labeling him as a hypocrite and a sinner, just because he had a child, which is just a part of life that everyone goes through.

Yes, he's Christian. Yes, he got a child before he was married. So what? This doesn't change his beliefs or anything, right? He's still Christian, believes in Jesus, etc., right? The thing is, it's his decision, and probably Royce's as well. I see no problem with him having a kid, even though it's a sin, because Christianity's main point is in love and forgiveness.

And don't you guys ever get the thought that maybe Dwight and Royce wanted the kid?
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Post#36 » by kookie_819 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:58 pm

If anything, I'd say that this is just yet another reason to bash Dwight Howard, after saying that he has no offense, he will never be a 20/10 player, he will get injured, etc.
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Post#37 » by Rich Rane » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:01 am

I thought this was a thread on Dwight Howard becoming a priest.
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Post#38 » by Liqourish » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:03 am

"She's doing great," Juanita Reed said Friday. "Royce and Dwight are very happy. They are very good friends. How close they are, well, you'd have to talk to them. I'm just the grandma. It was not something that was planned. It was a beautiful surprise, though."


I think it's safe to say that they didn't plan to have a child.

No one is bashing Dwight, in fact many people here have congratulated him on his new fatherhood. The only discussion seems to be one person claiming that some mysterious christian sect believes that pre-marital sex and having children out of wedlock aren't viewed at as sins.
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Post#39 » by thaAteam » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:14 am

i know dwight howard is a christian but temptation is a b$%#& and she is fine as hell. the perfect christmas season gift. a hefty extension and a baby mama, she caught him at the right time. He better marry her cuz its cheaper to keep her
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Post#40 » by 667Club » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:20 am

Please everyone spare us you religous bull ... "SIN" lol ! that's the kind of word you can only read on an american forum ... Yep "Only in America" you know :)

That said Dwight has been too naive and the smart girl just won the lotto. I mean you have to be utterly cautious and not trust ANY girl when you make that kind of money.

It reminds me of this tennis star, i think it's Boris Becker (nickname: boom boom so he might have desserved it anyway but still). He got a child from a model he met in a restaurant and the only sexual act between them was ORAL sex she performed on him ONCE. Yes you read it right.

You can actually get a child from ORAL SEX ... but only when it's performed by a f##### MONEYW#####. Wich means 99 % of the women you will meet when you are a multi-millionnaire.

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