@**ALL TRADES HERE**@-the random trade proposal thread pt 3

[Lane1974]

only way you would consider to do it is to trade him & Blount, get that 15 million under the cap, then you can add a Brand or a max contract or a large and medium contract for 2 players in the offseason to add to Marion & Wade...

[G.cracker]

Yeah, I guess. But we'd want more picks too and is Orlando really close enough in their minds that they put it all on the line now? I still don't see them beating Detroit or Boston, much less Phoenix or the Lakers. Just not enough good guard play.

[Riled Up]

they could follow up the Haslem trade by trading Turkoglu for the guard that is missing.................

[IndoorOutdoor]

What about sending Jwill, Ricky, Cook, and Wright to Chitown for Wallace and Gordon.. Gives them some youth and some cap space for the summer..

Gordon at the 1 could work since Wade would do alot of the ball handling.
Gordon/Wade/Marion/Haslem/Wallace + Draft pick is pretty good in my book

[gqbredrin]

I like any trade for Wilcox, so how about this

Miami Trades:
Ricky Davis
Jason Williams
Mark Blount
Smush Parker
Dorell Wright

Seattle Trades:
Wally
Wilcox
Ridnour
2008 1st Rd. pick

Seattle:They take a several short contracts which include three expirings and a veteran center that can shoot from deep, and they can eventually sign a big free agent while dumping Wally's huge contract on us (Blount and Wally Trade off).Plus they get a talent in DWright.

Miami:Gets a big that can run, finish, post and rebound.A decent distributin point guard with a considerably large contract. A outside threat in Wally. And most of all a 2008 1st round draft pick.

Seattle could easily sign a player like Gilbert Arenas and compete in the West and outscore opponents.Pretty deep team

pg.Gilbert Arenas/E.Watson
sg.Kevin Durant/DWest
sf.Jeff Green/DWright
pf.Nick Collison/Johan Petro
c.Kurt Thomas/Mark Blount

Miami would get two early lottery picks making them a young deep team as well. If Miami gets both picks in the top seven, the team can look like this.

pg.Bayless/Ridnour
sg.Wade/Cook
sf.Marion/Wally
pf.Beasley/Haslem
c.Wilcox/?

This trade would boost both team if that same scenario would work out.

[Mourning_Heat_33]

To Mia:
Garrity
Dooling

To Orl:
Alexander
Blount
Future 1st (lotto protected)

The Heat resign Alonzo Mourning (min), resign Dolling, sign Elton Brand, draft Thabeet, and sign Brent Barry (min), sign Malik Allen (min), sign Kareem Rush (min)


regular rotation

Dooling (defender/shooter/distributor): 24 mpg, 8 ppg, 3 apg, 1 spg
Banks (defender/shooter/distributor): 24 mpg, 7 ppg, 2 apg, 1 spg
Wade (star): 35 mpg, 23 ppg, 7 apg, 1.5 spg
Wright (defender/slasher/6th man): 26 mpg, 10 ppg, 6 rpg, 1 spg
Marion (star): 35 mpg, 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 1 spg
Haslem (dirty work/rebounder/defender): 30 mpg, 9 ppg, 9 rpg
Brand (star): 35 mpg, 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 1 bpg
Mourning (legend): 15 mpg, 5 ppg, 4 rpg, 2 bpg
Thabeet (huge defensive beast): 16 mpg, 5 ppg, 5 rpg, 1.5 bpg

deep reserves: Rush (shooter), Quinn (steady PG), Allen (PF), Barry (shooter/vintage Heat), Barron and Anthony (2 Cs)

[heat4life]

I would think NJ would want Brand for themselves if all it's going to take to get him is Vince and 1st round pick swap.

[MartyConlonJr]

To Mia:
Garrity
Dooling

To Orl:
Alexander
Blount
Future 1st (lotto protected)

The Heat resign Alonzo Mourning (min), resign Dolling, sign Elton Brand, draft Thabeet, and sign Brent Barry (min), sign Malik Allen (min), sign Kareem Rush (min)


regular rotation

Dooling (defender/shooter/distributor): 24 mpg, 8 ppg, 3 apg, 1 spg
Banks (defender/shooter/distributor): 24 mpg, 7 ppg, 2 apg, 1 spg
Wade (star): 35 mpg, 23 ppg, 7 apg, 1.5 spg
Wright (defender/slasher/6th man): 26 mpg, 10 ppg, 6 rpg, 1 spg
Marion (star): 35 mpg, 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 1 spg
Haslem (dirty work/rebounder/defender): 30 mpg, 9 ppg, 9 rpg
Brand (star): 35 mpg, 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 1 bpg
Mourning (legend): 15 mpg, 5 ppg, 4 rpg, 2 bpg
Thabeet (huge defensive beast): 16 mpg, 5 ppg, 5 rpg, 1.5 bpg

deep reserves: Rush (shooter), Quinn (steady PG), Allen (PF), Barry (shooter/vintage Heat), Barron and Anthony (2 Cs)

That wouldn't work. We'd have about $6 mill to sign Brand, assuming we didn't take the qualifying option on Dorell, and we waived our bird rights to Dooling, when you factor in the $3.5 mill our draft pick gets.

If we want to keep Marion, and sign Brand, we need to move Blount and Haslem, and either renounce Dorell or move Smush.

Alternatively we could ask Marion to opt out and give him a contract starting at 11 mill with max raises for 6 seasons (probably going beyond his usefulness as a 36 year old undersized guy who relies on athleticism) to save us $6 mill on his current salary for the 08-09 season and move Blount and Smush for something.

Or convince the Clippers to trade Brand for expirings and some youth.

[miamiballer]

what about haslem, j will, blount to chi for wallace and hinrich, if we draft beasley we look like this

wallace
beasley
marion/wright
wade
hinrich/banks

very solid IMO

[G.cracker]

I'd be great with that. Why would the Bulls?

[pramis123]

Bulls would be interested because they want to get rid of Wallace contract and also have been rumored to be shopoing Henrich. While I am not crazy about Wallace and his contract, this deal would settle out PG situation for a long time.

[NBAMAN4LIFE]

Per wire tap 3 way deal Mia NJ and NY Carter to knicks Ricky and Jwill to nets and Curry to heat

[heat4life]

Going by the rumors that Miami wants Miller, Lowry and Curry, here is a couple of deals that could get it done:

First Miami trades with Memphis

Miami sends Ricky Davis + Smush Parker + either Earl Barron (if he agrees) or Joel Anthony + 2nd round pick in 2009 + $2mil (buy out Parker) to Memphis for Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry

Then the 3 way between Miami, NY and NJ

Miami sends Jason Williams to New Jersey
Miami gets Eddy Curry from NY

NJ sends Vince Carter to NY
NJ receives Jason Williams from Miami + Fred Jones + Ronaldo Blackman + 2nd round pick from NY

NY send Eddy Curry to Miami, Fred Jones + Ronaldo Blackman + 2nd round pick to NJ
NY receives Vince Carter

A 2nd round pick could go to Miami as well (or instead of NJ) for taking on Curry's contract.

We would have:

PG: Lowry, Banks, Quinn
SG: Wade, Miller, Cook
SF: Marion, Wright,
PF: Haslem, Blount, Johnson
C: Curry, Zo, Anthony

We could go out and sign 10 day players with the remaining roster spot for the remainder of the year then with our lotto pick we could concentrate on the BPA (PG or C preferred). We could use the glut of 2nd rounders to acquire a 1st round pick next year when ours goes to Minny.

[Hoops23]

The three way deal Curry to Miami is not going to happen. Curry is fat and over paid. He doesn't deserve his contract.

The deal Miami should do before the deadline is to trade Blount together with the expiring contracts of either or both Davis & J-Will for players with

[heat4life]

Could be but the ONE trade that needs to happen is for Mike Miller. We need a "consistent" shooter on this team, not "streaky" shooters like Cook, JWill, Davis etc..

[coolhandluke121]

Oh my frickin' god. I'm a Bucks fan who thinks the Bucks should trade Mo and some bad contracts for the expiring deals the Heat have so I checked out your board. People here think they're getting frickin' Miller, who's playing like an all-star, and Artest for cap space!? Stranger things have happened, but there's a reason those things are called strange! Those teams that get good players for expiring contracts always have to throw in draft picks, but you can't trade this summer's pick until the end of the season because it's already been traded (with lottery protection that will make it yours in the end).

And some fans are saying no, they don't like Miller's contract and they want to lose more games for a higher pick? I'll tell you what contract you're not going to like, it's Wade's contract that he signs in two years with some other team because your team might be stupid enough to let those contracts expire without getting something for them!

Bottom line, those expiring deals don't help the Heat at all because they won't put them under the cap anyway - unless they don't extend Marion, which isn't exactly the message they want to send to D-Wade right now. And the draft pick is very unlikely to make an impact in the 2-year window you have to impress Wade.

I think I'm going to stay on the Bucks board, at least they're realistic.

[heat4life]

Oh my frickin' god. I'm a Bucks fan who thinks the Bucks should trade Mo and some bad contracts for the expiring deals the Heat have so I checked out your board. People here think they're getting frickin' Miller, who's playing like an all-star, and Artest for cap space!? Stranger things have happened, but there's a reason those things are called strange! Those teams that get good players for expiring contracts always have to throw in draft picks, but you can't trade this summer's pick until the end of the season because it's already been traded (with lottery protection that will make it yours in the end).

And some fans are saying no, they don't like Miller's contract and they want to lose more games for a higher pick? I'll tell you what contract you're not going to like, it's Wade's contract that he signs in two years with some other team because your team might be stupid enough to let those contracts expire without getting something for them!

Bottom line, those expiring deals don't help the Heat at all because they won't put them under the cap anyway - unless they don't extend Marion, which isn't exactly the message they want to send to D-Wade right now. And the draft pick is very unlikely to make an impact in the 2-year window you have to impress Wade.

I think I'm going to stay on the Bucks board, at least they're realistic.

At least you got one thing correct..

[Mourning_Heat_33]

JWill, Ricky, Zo, Cook, 2010 1st round pick for Jermaine O'Neal, Kareem Rush

[Immure]

JWill, Ricky, Zo, Cook, 2010 1st round pick for Jermaine O'Neal, Kareem Rush

throw NJ as a 3rd team where the expirings end up and add VC to indy and i bet that trade gets pulled if indy is still interested in VC....just make salaries match and throw in smush in the deal...

[heat4life]

Here is a better deal between NJ/Indy/MIA
I think if you remove Zo from the deal, still works. Miami would have to send a draft pick to Indy as well. NJ might require a 2nd rounder as well.

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