Carmelo Anthony Thread (Denver Finalizes Deal With Knicks)

[Netaman]

With the way these two press conferences have gone, I have the feeling King was the one desperately trying to trade for 'Melo, not Proky.

agreed. I think Prokhorov gave him too much rope to look stupid. He has been quoted numerous times saying "the way deals get done is to stay persistent and keep on calling" - the exact strategy that dragged this process out. It was a perennial negotiation and nowhere did anyone make a decision. Most obviously Denver.

Prokhorov's best quote in this press conference was that this was a valuable learning experience. My guess is he gets more involved in the strategy of big deals.

[vincecarter4pres]

Great news for you guys. Congrats. Trading away a potential top 5 pick to cap out as a 45 win team when you have a very good opportunity to build a team through the draft would have been disastrous. I guess Thorn was let go because he wanted to rebuild the right way? You guys are a wing and a high-ceiling guard away from being a playoff team. One of those will be acquired through the draft, and then you just need to use FA and the eventual Devin Harris trade to get the other. I can see you guys targeting Mayo, Batum, Granger, or possibly Gerald Wallace (though I don't think Wallace is a good move).

If you didn't hate the Nets so much I would tell you nice post.

[enetric]

We have pulled out of the Melo deal!!!!!

Finally hey gets it. That was the only thing he could have done here. That's what I said earlier right? it ws the only thing he could say beyind smiling and being charming. Finally he made a stand.

[Talentfull]

I'm excited by this news...a lot of damage has already been done but I think we can move on from here.

[RutgersBJJ]

Great news for you guys. Congrats. Trading away a potential top 5 pick to cap out as a 45 win team when you have a very good opportunity to build a team through the draft would have been disastrous. I guess Thorn was let go because he wanted to rebuild the right way? You guys are a wing and a high-ceiling guard away from being a playoff team. One of those will be acquired through the draft, and then you just need to use FA and the eventual Devin Harris trade to get the other. I can see you guys targeting Mayo, Batum, Granger, or possibly Gerald Wallace (though I don't think Wallace is a good move).

If you didn't hate the Nets so much I would tell you nice post.

Don't hate Nets, just Lopez and Billy King. I like Favors, Hump, and Morrow. And hope you guys draft Irving or one of the Jones' so I can watch them all the time in HD and not crappy non-HD League Pass.

[enetric]

I'm willing to bet there is a swift followup move to this press conference to hammer home that we move on. Nothing that will commit a lot of money but I could see them trading Devin for Andre Miller + or something like that. Change the tenor of the team and fire another shot across the bow at Denver.

When push comes to shove I still think Denver comes back to the table begging for Favors and our 1st by the trade Deadline, especially if we can get a solid team oriented PG who will help Favors look good.

Yes, I agree. Saying its dead and it actually being dead are two different things.

Denver now has to go out there and see what they can get....and that's crap compared to what they asked for from us. This is good for the Nix though. Bad for Denver. Neutral for Melo. If I am the Nets at this stage...only way I even come back to the table is if Melo talks to them...and gives a firm YES. Without it...not wasting ONE SECOND MORE.

I want to say right now that the Bulls are idiots if they wont give up Noah for Melo. If they can get him and deal with Deng later...do it. Rose, Melo, Boozer beats Amare/Melo/Felton. Have to do it.

[vincecarter4pres]

Great news for you guys. Congrats. Trading away a potential top 5 pick to cap out as a 45 win team when you have a very good opportunity to build a team through the draft would have been disastrous. I guess Thorn was let go because he wanted to rebuild the right way? You guys are a wing and a high-ceiling guard away from being a playoff team. One of those will be acquired through the draft, and then you just need to use FA and the eventual Devin Harris trade to get the other. I can see you guys targeting Mayo, Batum, Granger, or possibly Gerald Wallace (though I don't think Wallace is a good move).

If you didn't hate the Nets so much I would tell you nice post.

Don't hate Nets, just Lopez and Billy King. I like Favors, Hump, and Morrow. And hope you guys draft Irving or one of the Jones' so I can watch them all the time in HD and not crappy non-HD League Pass.

Haha, nice.

You do constantly thrash the Nets on the General Board and such though...

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm willing to bet there is a swift followup move to this press conference to hammer home that we move on. Nothing that will commit a lot of money but I could see them trading Devin for Andre Miller + or something like that. Change the tenor of the team and fire another shot across the bow at Denver.

When push comes to shove I still think Denver comes back to the table begging for Favors and our 1st by the trade Deadline, especially if we can get a solid team oriented PG who will help Favors look good.

Yes, I agree. Saying its dead and it actually being dead are two different things.

Denver now has to go out there and see what they can get....and that's crap compared to what they asked for from us. This is good for the Nix though. Bad for Denver. Neutral for Melo. If I am the Nets at this stage...only way I even come back to the table is if Melo talks to them...and gives a firm YES. Without it...not wasting ONE SECOND MORE.

I want to say right now that the Bulls are idiots if they wont give up Noah for Melo. If they can get him and deal with Deng later...do it. Rose, Melo, Boozer beats Amare/Melo/Felton. Have to do it.

I don't know man.

I know Melo is better then Noah, and Noah is basically a garbage man, but he's a hell of a garbage man, not some dime a dozen every draft garbage man, more like a once or twice a decade type garbage man, almost like a Ben Wallace.

[Netaman]

I'm willing to bet there is a swift followup move to this press conference to hammer home that we move on. Nothing that will commit a lot of money but I could see them trading Devin for Andre Miller + or something like that. Change the tenor of the team and fire another shot across the bow at Denver.

When push comes to shove I still think Denver comes back to the table begging for Favors and our 1st by the trade Deadline, especially if we can get a solid team oriented PG who will help Favors look good.

Yes, I agree. Saying its dead and it actually being dead are two different things.

Denver now has to go out there and see what they can get....and that's crap compared to what they asked for from us. This is good for the Nix though. Bad for Denver. Neutral for Melo. If I am the Nets at this stage...only way I even come back to the table is if Melo talks to them...and gives a firm YES. Without it...not wasting ONE SECOND MORE.

I want to say right now that the Bulls are idiots if they wont give up Noah for Melo. If they can get him and deal with Deng later...do it. Rose, Melo, Boozer beats Amare/Melo/Felton. Have to do it.

agreed. The Bulls are stupid to not take on Melo - he is a very good fit there.

The Knicks is also a no brainer the problem is just that their offer sucks mega donkey nuts. Don't know how Denver accepts it. Gotta think a last minute situation they would at least come back to us with an offer, and I have no doubt that we would accept it.

[enetric]

Yeah I'm interested in where Devin will go and what he's going to bring back.

Sure makes the Toy deal look even worse now...that we helped Indy get Collison. Remember last summer when I said I would prefer Granger to Melo when you factor in his contract size and what it would cost us in a trade?

Tell me Devin, Lee cap space to take a contract plus ONE pick wouldnt have gotten it done before the trade deadline if they still had a PG need, were looking at an expiring Troy...an awful season and rebuilding.

Ah the Troy trade. The mistake that keeps on giving.....

[enetric]

Andre Miller and a 1st for Devin

I dont like Devin...but why would that trade make sense for us? An old PG and yet another pick? Makes no sense to root for that unless you are some sort of odd Andre Miller fan and care more about him than this team.

[lurkingobeiscity]

Really poor work by the Nets front office. I was hoping they would string this out to the trade deadline and then cut the strings, leaving Denver scrambling. Nice to see someone in charge has some sense though.

Nuggets can't be happy. The real prize the whole time was Favors and that's gone now (supposedly) because they were arguing over late 1st rounders. Nowhere else that they can get that kind of prospect.

[Joel Embust]

**** MELO, I'm very happy about the decision.

[Netaman]

The only really disappointing thing is that we still have to watch Stephen Graham.

[Pfinferno]

I'll bake cookies for whoever tells me the name of the woman that was next to proky translating stuff.

[vincecarter4pres]

Andre Miller and a 1st for Devin

I dont like Devin...but why would that trade make sense for us? An old PG and yet another pick? Makes no sense to root for that unless you are some sort of odd Andre Miller fan and care more about him than this team.

He's a Portland fan...

And I think I would do that anyway. Maybe both 1sts, the NOH and Portland.

We could then package the LAL, NOH and PDX 1st for one late lotto pick or a young player, maybe even Granger in the offseason if we added the GSW pick and pure cap.

Andre Miller probably wouldn't add many wins, but for a little less then half a season he is the type of point guard that will help Favors and Brook develop.

[enetric]

With the way these two press conferences have gone, I have the feeling King was the one desperately trying to trade for 'Melo, not Proky.

I dont know if we will ever know. But hearing it from the horses mouth? hearing that the man who makes the final call seems to "get it"? That is a huge sigh of relief. He said the most important thing. THe thing I say all the time. Make the wrong move...and it can set you back for 5-6 years. Doing nothing is BY FAR not the worst thing you can do in this sport.

I just hope he walks the talk....and if King isnt in sync..if he doesnt get it...that he is gone before he can screw up.

I didnt like when King referenced The Pistons as an example citing Billups, Ben etc...and saying you never know...you just try to get better. To cite the exception rather than the rule? I dont think much of that. All but the Pistons over the last 30 years had a top 3 NBA player of that season on their team the year they won it all. You cant just mish mash players and hope you get the Pistons. Most of the time you get the Grizzlies.

[NyCeEvO]

The Nuggets are screwed!!!!!! Haha, they are going to scramble like crazy and Melo is going to be pissed! Finally, the Nets wised up. That stigma of pushing us around will be gone soon. Back to smart rebuilding yay!

Plus, who is to say that if we do smaller deals, build a quality team, and Melo does become a free agent, he doesn't come to us at a much cheaper price than the extension granted.

Bye Leon Rose.
Bye World Wide Wes.
Bye Josh Kroenke.
Bye Masai.

You're not re-tooling off of us.

Favors, become the beast that you're ready to be.

[enetric]

I'm willing to bet there is a swift followup move to this press conference to hammer home that we move on. Nothing that will commit a lot of money but I could see them trading Devin for Andre Miller + or something like that. Change the tenor of the team and fire another shot across the bow at Denver.

When push comes to shove I still think Denver comes back to the table begging for Favors and our 1st by the trade Deadline, especially if we can get a solid team oriented PG who will help Favors look good.

Yes, I agree. Saying its dead and it actually being dead are two different things.

Denver now has to go out there and see what they can get....and that's crap compared to what they asked for from us. This is good for the Nix though. Bad for Denver. Neutral for Melo. If I am the Nets at this stage...only way I even come back to the table is if Melo talks to them...and gives a firm YES. Without it...not wasting ONE SECOND MORE.

I want to say right now that the Bulls are idiots if they wont give up Noah for Melo. If they can get him and deal with Deng later...do it. Rose, Melo, Boozer beats Amare/Melo/Felton. Have to do it.

I don't know man.

I know Melo is better then Noah, and Noah is basically a garbage man, but he's a hell of a garbage man, not some dime a dozen every draft garbage man, more like a once or twice a decade type garbage man, almost like a Ben Wallace.

I dont have as high an opinion of him as you do...and honestly? While Melo is overrated...they have Boozer. You dont say OOOOH I cant give up my rebounding role guy who looking like a lesser role guy the couple of weeks Boozer was out there when you can get a top 10 player ON TOP of two other all stars. The timing of their evolution says YOU HAVE to do that deal. No question,. When its your last core piece...you dont over think the trimmings to get it. For us...it was gut all our youth for a piece that doesnt even make us as good as the Bulls are right now.

For them to me they are fools not to do it and let him go to the Knicks or someone else that could trade them in as a 4-6 seed during the prime years of Rose and whatever prime Boozer has left. You hgo for that and do just fine with Taj Gibson and whatever role guy you can get with an MLE or a trade of Deng down the road.

Gotta do it.

[NyCeEvO]

With the way these two press conferences have gone, I have the feeling King was the one desperately trying to trade for 'Melo, not Proky.

I dont know if we will ever know. But hearing it from the horses mouth? hearing that the man who makes the final call seems to "get it"? That is a huge sigh of relief. He said the most important thing. THe thing I say all the time. Make the wrong move...and it can set you back for 5-6 years. Doing nothing is BY FAR not the worst thing you can do in this sport.

I just hope he walks the talk....and if King isnt in sync..if he doesnt get it...that he is gone before he can screw up.

I didnt like when King referenced The Pistons as an example citing Billups, Ben etc...and saying you never know...you just try to get better. To cite the exception rather than the rule? I dont think much of that. All but the Pistons over the last 30 years had a top 3 NBA player of that season on their team the year they won it all. You cant just mish mash players and hope you get the Pistons. Most of the time you get the Grizzlies.

Well, he did first mention the Lakers as well and how Kupchak dealt with Kobe. In all fairness, I think he was trying to give examples of different ways championship teams were brought together, not citing the Pistons as the ideal model. But that's just my take.