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Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

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Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?

Yes, I want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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No, I do not want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#201 » by emunney » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:08 am

The point is that being a HoF player doesn't mean anything about your abilities to run a team. Doesn't mean you can or can't do it. You guys are using it as a qualification. We are not using it as a disqualification. I'm fine with hiring a HoF player to run things, as long as it's a guy who has done the prerequisite personnel work.

Jerry West was a coach for 3 years and a scout for 3 years before becoming GM of the Lakers.

Larry Bird worked in the FO for 5 years and coached for another 3 years.
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Post#202 » by wichmae » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:09 am

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wichmae wrote:Lets also keep in context that if he is hired as POBO there most likely going to hiring a GM. Im hoping if this is true he is on the sidelines as well.


C''mon Wich. You know that would be one screwed up heirarchy.

KIDD -POBO
GM - under KIDD
Coach - KIDD

How does the GM under that structure matter? He'd be a puppet to what Kidd wanted.

Now if you think KIdd is the next Phil Jackson or Popovich, that works. I personally think his 20 year track record shows he's much closer in personality to Scott Skiles, but he just happened to have a much better NBA career.

I think if you assemble a cohesive team in the FO there will be no problems. Ultimately the final decision lies with the owners so Im ok with it (caveat that it isnt a 1st rounder were talking here).
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Post#203 » by Sherman Douglas » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:09 am

emunney wrote:The point is that being a HoF player doesn't mean anything about your abilities to run a team. Doesn't mean you can or can't do it. You guys are using it as a qualification. We are not using it as a disqualification. I'm fine with hiring a HoF player to run things, as long as it's a guy who has done the prerequisite personnel work.

Jerry West was a coach for 3 years and a scout for 3 years before becoming GM of the Lakers.

Larry Bird worked in the FO for 5 years and coached for another 3 years.

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#204 » by TroyD92 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:10 am

I just don't think there's a reason to freak out until some actually details come to light.
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Kidd would have curb stomped him.

Maybe if his name was Denise instead of Dennis.


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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#205 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:10 am

humanrefutation wrote:The only bright side to getting Kidd on board is that it might help grease the skids for an arena deal. Casual fans will eat this up.


No they won't. Kidd culturally doesn't play here. Prima Donna, DUI's, Domestic abuse won't jibe with casual fan going to Brewer games now that Bucks need to reach. That type of angle only works in places like NYC.
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Post#206 » by Sherman Douglas » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:11 am

And aside from all that, I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I'd rather not have the new face of our franchise to the national media and NBA fan base be that of a wife beating piece of garbage human being.
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Post#207 » by TroyD92 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:12 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:The only bright side to getting Kidd on board is that it might help grease the skids for an arena deal. Casual fans will eat this up.


No they won't. Kidd culturally doesn't play here. Prima Donna, DUI's, Domestic abuse won't jibe with casual fan going to Brewer games now that Bucks need to reach. That type of angle only works in places like NYC.


Half the people at the Brewers game probably have a DUI so I'm not sure that'll really throw people for a loop. :D
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Kidd would have curb stomped him.

Maybe if his name was Denise instead of Dennis.


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Post#208 » by emunney » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:12 am

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Post#209 » by Sherman Douglas » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:13 am

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Post#210 » by mchase27 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:14 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:The only bright side to getting Kidd on board is that it might help grease the skids for an arena deal. Casual fans will eat this up.


No they won't. Kidd culturally doesn't play here. Prima Donna, DUI's, Domestic abuse won't jibe with casual fan going to Brewer games now that Bucks need to reach. That type of angle only works in places like NYC.


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Post#211 » by bullox » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:14 am

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Why because I won't bow and just agree with people because they've been around for a few years and have x amount of "And1's" .


It's because you plagiarize your point of view, don't own it, and then play passive aggressive. It's off-putting.


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Post#212 » by FlagsFlyForever » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:15 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:The only bright side to getting Kidd on board is that it might help grease the skids for an arena deal. Casual fans will eat this up.


No they won't. Kidd culturally doesn't play here. Prima Donna, DUI's, Domestic abuse won't jibe with casual fan going to Brewer games now that Bucks need to reach. That type of angle only works in places like NYC.

This is the city that loves Ryan Braun. All that will be ignored if Kidd puts out a winner.
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Post#213 » by mchase27 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:16 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:The only bright side to getting Kidd on board is that it might help grease the skids for an arena deal. Casual fans will eat this up.


No they won't. Kidd culturally doesn't play here. Prima Donna, DUI's, Domestic abuse won't jibe with casual fan going to Brewer games now that Bucks need to reach. That type of angle only works in places like NYC.

This is the city that loves Ryan Braun. All that will be ignored if Kidd puts out a winner.


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Post#214 » by bullox » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:18 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:The only bright side to getting Kidd on board is that it might help grease the skids for an arena deal. Casual fans will eat this up.


No they won't. Kidd culturally doesn't play here. Prima Donna, DUI's, Domestic abuse won't jibe with casual fan going to Brewer games now that Bucks need to reach. That type of angle only works in places like NYC.

This is the city that loves Ryan Braun. All that will be ignored if Kidd puts out a winner.


The difference is that Braun won an MVP in MKE before he took a dump on his PR. Kidd's done his deed for decades elsewhere and people here have had time to watch him as someone else's problem.
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Post#215 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:18 am

we had a dude that was a rapist on our team a few years ago
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Post#216 » by emunney » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:18 am

Going to sleep assuming this was all a big exaggeration from within Kidd's camp.
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Post#217 » by dogswithbeesintheirmouths » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:19 am

This trend of hiring players without any experience is stupid. Kidd and Jackson both had major problems in terms of managing personnel and working within a hierarchy just last season. And we want to give Kidd more power? I thought Lasry and Edens would know better than to get excited about a big name whose credentials are in a different job.
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Post#218 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:21 am

JayMKE wrote:we had a dude that was a rapist on our team a few years ago


But Ruben Patterson wasn't in charge of the entire organization. People understand some players are knuckleheads in their personal life. Running the entire organization, dealing with business matters and setting the tone culturally as team President? Major distinction.
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Post#219 » by Istanbullus » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:24 am

Can it be any worse than last year with Kidd in control? Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes. Much worse. İf he can bulldog a big market team like the Nets, I hate to see what he would do to Milwaukee, riding in on his temper and with a vendetta.

He hasn't proven much as a coach. Aside from Plumley, he had a team of veterans seasoned from years of being in the playoffs. The Bucks are the opposite of this. Does he really want to be a part of a rebuild and focus on player development for three years? Jason Kidd? I don't think so. And as Duke said, we have two great kids on our team (not to mention Henson and Knight) and Kidd brings in his past record of DUI and spousal abuse.

L and E, take it slow. At least go through a process of selecting a GM and new coach, and let the current staff know ahead of time.
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Post#220 » by mchase27 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:25 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:we had a dude that was a rapist on our team a few years ago


But Ruben Patterson wasn't in charge of the entire organization. People understand some players are knuckleheads in their personal life. Running the entire organization, dealing with business matters and setting the tone culturally as team President? Major distinction.


The face of the Brewers franchise dragged another man's name through the mud to save skin. AND PEOPLE GAVE HIM A STANDING OVATION. Come on now people don't care about that stuff.

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