PG: Bobcats beat LOLters

Saciid11 · Post #201 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:44 am

So we lost, we move on to the next game... it's not the end of the world and I still believe this team will reach 50 win mark.

22haytham22 · Post #202 » by **22haytham22** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:44 am

UneducatedFan86 · Post #203 » by **UneducatedFan86** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:46 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
UneducatedFan86 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:You guys are fine, relax. Derozan crapped all over us tonight and Lowry was just coming back from an injury. Not sure about Vals playing time, but oh well. Good luck the rest of the year fellas.

The issue is, Lowry has been playing like this for over 2 months now. Demar has had his ups and downs all season. After coming back from injury, he had probably his best "stretch" of games, and then crapped the bed for a week. Our whole offense lives and dies by shots 15 feet and out, and our coach won't adjust.

At least when your guys shots weren't falling, your coach went inside and let Jefferson do his thing. It really calmed your team down and got you some easy buckets. Our coach would rather bench JV and let our guards shoot themselves back into rhythm, no matter how long it takes or how many shots it takes.

Im speaking mainly as an outsider, but you guys looked severely out coached tonight. And believe me, Steve Clifford has been the demise of the Hornets for his rotations for a while.

Did Val even play a minute in the 4th?

No. Not a single minute. Jefferson was having a good game against him, but JV was still being pretty productive. It isn't like Jefferson wasn't dominating everyone we put on him. It really doesn't make sense that Jonas didn't get a single minute in the 4th (or the 2nd, for that matter).

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #204 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:46 am

Choker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:You guys are fine, relax. Derozan crapped all over us tonight and Lowry was just coming back from an injury. Not sure about Vals playing time, but oh well. Good luck the rest of the year fellas.

The only time things are fine on the Raptors board is when we blow out a team by 30 and Jonas plays 48 minutes.

Lay off the GOAT board, man.

Son Goku 25 · Post #205 » by **Son Goku 25** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:50 am

JV deserves better

DemarEvolution · Post #206 » by **DemarEvolution** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:53 am

ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

We deserve better.

cruwinas · Post #207 » by **cruwinas** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:53 am

Choker wrote:
raptors3 wrote:
cruwinas wrote:DD is highly responsible for horrible ball movement. Mostly he takes very difficult shats, or creates a turnover, or makes useless pass to someone.

Season began easy, schedule was one of the easiest. Almost everyone was healthy. Now - looks like raptors don't have chance even before game starts (except sixers). JV is a decent young center but his usage is strange. Maybe it's time for Massai to let Casey to take a brake. Otherwise the rest games under his "leadership" could be ugly and hopeless as this one.

I hate how ppl now-a-days just find a way to bring DD into the teams problems. Demar was the only person that showed up tonight and even when he was hot he still tried to find others for open shots but they just missed...

I seriously don't get this. What do people see when they watch games? DeRozan does take some awful shots but he was actually making good reads the entire night. The problem is our players just sucked at making their shots. He was beautiful in getting into the heart of the defense and creating for others.

DeRozan would have 2 more assists a game if Vasquez wasn't so ****.

What reads? Watched DET - HOU, Harden with another triple double. That shooting guard knows what to do. When to shoot, when to pass, when to rest on offense. People see things differently.

Shockwave- · Post #208 » by **Shockwave-** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:53 am

ritchiesli wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/574046218453712896[/tweet]

This right here should leave no doubts on just how casey has no idea how to coach. No confidence either.

Also: I can't believe "Scramble Group" is actually a thing. The name itself even sounds disorganized, so on second thought it fits Casey perfectly.

raptor jesus · Post #209 » by **raptor jesus** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:53 am

HeartBreaking wrote:
ritchiesli wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/574046218453712896[/tweet]

How is a head coach allowed to be this lackadaisical and keep his job. Are you **** kidding me?

The frustrating thing is that not only is there an alternative (to scrambling), it's an alternative that is employed by the league's best defences.

Saciid11 · Post #210 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:54 am

ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

UneducatedFan86 · Post #211 » by **UneducatedFan86** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:57 am

Saciid11 wrote:
ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

JV has been one of the most consistent players all season. I don't get why you hate on him so much....

cammac · Post #212 » by **cammac** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:58 am

The team needs a massive restructuring starting with Casey being terminated the millisecond we are eliminated in the play-offs. The team won in the beginning in spite of Casey and are losing now because of Casey because he can't invision either a offense or defensive strategy.

DeMar or Lowry one must go in this case think it must be Lowry. DeMar would benefit from a PG not giving him 20 shots a game.
Lowry for Ty Lawson

Vasquez or Williams obviously Vasquez must go.

Ross still undecided but likely as part of a trade.

Bebe what is his upside a back-up C move him as part of a deal.

Amir great heart good player but needs to go.

Keep Jonas, JJ, Williams, Patterson, Bruno and grudgingly DeMar & Ross

Hero · Post #213 » by **Hero** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:03 am

Saciid11 wrote:
ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

There have been quite a few times when he doesn't play much, doesn't score or rebound much and we win. Nobody praises Casey then for the win. Yet somehow when we lose it's all Casey's fault because another 10 mins of JV would have been a gamechanger.

Saciid11 · Post #214 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:04 am

UneducatedFan86 wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:
ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

JV has been one of the most consistent players all season. I don't get why you hate on him so much....

Most consistent??? If that is the case then why is he getting no playing in the 4Q... Ohhh must be the coach, I guess. JV had few good games state wise, but to call that the most consistent is ridicules, our most consistent player has been Lowry. Lowry carried this team during Demar absence...

Saciid11 · Post #215 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:07 am

Hero wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:
ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

There have been quite a few times when he doesn't play much, doesn't score or rebound much and we win. Nobody praises Casey then for the win. Yet somehow when we lose it's all Casey's fault because another 10 mins of JV would have been a gamechanger.

According to his fan boys his the most consistent player this season... Lowry to them is just chucker who needs to be traded just because he had bad stretch of games.

UnderdogRaptors · Post #216 » by **UnderdogRaptors** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:08 am

No-one has been consistent on a night to night basis all year except for the beginning part of the season for Klow.

C_Money · Post #217 » by **C_Money** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:09 am

Shockwave- wrote:
ritchiesli wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/574046218453712896[/tweet]

This right here should leave no doubts on just how casey has no idea how to coach. No confidence either.

Also: I can't believe "Scramble Group" is actually a thing. The name itself even sounds disorganized, so on second thought it fits Casey perfectly.

Yeah it looks like the defense running all over the place to cover the shooter is by design lol.

-TheDocOfDenial · Post #218 » by **-TheDocOfDenial** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:12 am

Saciid11 wrote:
ms25 wrote:JV deserves better

I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

you are a clown. JV put up 26/10 last game and what does he get for that? No minutes in 2nd and 4th Q and only 3 (read that only 3 **** shots). Do yourself a favor and stop posting.

Saciid11 · Post #219 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:12 am

cammac wrote:The team needs a massive restructuring starting with Casey being terminated the millisecond we are eliminated in the play-offs. The team won in the beginning in spite of Casey and are losing now because of Casey because he can't invision either a offense or defensive strategy.

DeMar or Lowry one must go in this case think it must be Lowry. DeMar would benefit from a PG not giving him 20 shots a game.
Lowry for Ty Lawson

Vasquez or Williams obviously Vasquez must go.

Ross still undecided but likely as part of a trade.

Bebe what is his upside a back-up C move him as part of a deal.

Amir great heart good player but needs to go.

Keep Jonas, JJ, Williams, Patterson, Bruno and grudgingly DeMar & Ross

Wow ... You would fire a coach who is gone lead this team to their second straight playoff and probably their best record in franchise history. You trade Lowry for lesser player in Ty Lawson ... worst of all Lawson is more score first point guard then Lowry who is better player maker and leader ... and better defender then Lawson who is what 5'10 .

Trade JV for top #5 pick this year and draft a real prospect with superstar potential ... Okafor, Karl Townson, Stanley Johnson..

UneducatedFan86 · Post #220 » by **UneducatedFan86** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:12 am

Saciid11 wrote:
UneducatedFan86 wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:
I just want him traded, so we don't have to deal with his fan boys ... bitching about the coach every lose and staying silent when we win ..and he was irrelevant in the win.

JV has been one of the most consistent players all season. I don't get why you hate on him so much....

Most consistent??? If that is the case then why is he getting no playing in the 4Q... Ohhh must be the coach, I guess. JV had few good games state wise, but to call that the most consistent is ridicules, our most consistent player has been Lowry. Lowry carried this team during Demar absence...

Lowry has been wildly inconsistent for 2 months? I'll agree he carried us at times, but to say he's been consistent is crazy. If in fact he was injured, then he should of been rested sooner. Not run into the ground. It's not even his offensive numbers. It's what he's doing on the defensive end. You want to harp on JV for not playing defense? Look at what Lowry has been doing out there. He let's his guy blow him and doesn't even try to recover anymore. It's hard to watch.

JV not getting PT in the 4th is based on a lot of things. Sometimes he has bad games, yes. Sometimes it's match up. But sometimes he just doesn't get minutes for no real reason. Now is that his fault? Who knows. Based on what I seen, a lot of times it's not. I've seen him have games where he's been very good and played very good defense, and not get any PT in the 4th. Yet other players could go 1-10 and play no defense (Lou, Vasaquez, etc) and still get a ton of minutes in the 4th, is that fair? No. Casey preaches one thing (play hard and get minutes) and usually does the opposite.

There is no justification for what is happening on the court. Really, none. It's not just JV, it's all of our players. There is no accountability.