Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league

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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#201 » by gavran » Sat May 18, 2019 12:25 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:This is an archaic policy; I'm not sure why the Player's Association hasn't had much to say about it.


They probably understand that breaking the law has it's consequences.
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Post#202 » by lamscott » Sat May 18, 2019 12:44 pm

I hate bleeding heart responses.


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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#203 » by j-ragg » Sat May 18, 2019 12:47 pm

Bummer. He was due for one last multi-year big contract. Do the crime you gotta do the time though, I'm sure the Pacers/NBPA will give him every resource to help him out of this so he can come back in a couple years.
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Post#204 » by swe_suns » Sat May 18, 2019 12:50 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:Mannix says it's not PED related. I'm guessing it's a hard drug: cocaine, opiods or meth.



Well then this is ridiculous.

NBA should be looking to help a guy like this not just slap him with a 2 year ban. Not sure how many chances he’s had but still.

He wasn’t caught on game day was he?


LOL, what's next, NBA being responsible for players commiting murder? Well as long as it doesn't happen on game day right? :roll:
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#205 » by SouthJersey » Sat May 18, 2019 12:55 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:For the posters just throwing around him doing Meth crack or cocaine without even knowing or having a source is just pathetic


Whatever it is for, it is something serious. Idk why you would think it's pathetic.
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#206 » by Hoosier TJ » Sat May 18, 2019 1:10 pm

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Hoosier TJ wrote:Lol! Guy is a moron. Glad he won't be back in a Pacers uniform ever again, one season was enough. Extremely lazy, skipped practices, rarely engaged, had to have led the league in missed layups. I would have cut him a month into the season. Major downgrade to Lance.

Good news is now he can move on with his life and go do something else with 20% effort.


I have no problem with the NBA banning him. The rules and consequences are clearly laid out and he failed to follow them.

But for you to laugh about what is likely a very serious problem for him because you didn't like how he performed for the basketball team that you root for is just straight pathetic.

I don't have pity for people who have every opportunity in the world to succeed and continually mess it up with stupid decisions. I hope he fixes himself, but this news didn't shock me or any other Pacers fan based on his actions this past year.
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Post#207 » by youngthegiant » Sat May 18, 2019 1:19 pm

So that's why he had a terrible year.
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Post#208 » by MrDollarBills » Sat May 18, 2019 1:27 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:This is an archaic policy; I'm not sure why the Player's Association hasn't had much to say about it.


No one in the NBA has been banned for marijuana. I think guys doing cocaine, meth etc is pretty serious because its life threatening stuff. The NBA should absolutely have a no tolerance policy for it and also at the same time look to get guys into treatment if they ever do end up falling down that hole.
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#209 » by Dupp » Sat May 18, 2019 1:53 pm

swe_suns wrote:
Dupp wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Mannix says it's not PED related. I'm guessing it's a hard drug: cocaine, opiods or meth.



Well then this is ridiculous.

NBA should be looking to help a guy like this not just slap him with a 2 year ban. Not sure how many chances he’s had but still.

He wasn’t caught on game day was he?


LOL, what's next, NBA being responsible for players commiting murder? Well as long as it doesn't happen on game day right? :roll:



Yes taking drugs while playing is worse than in the off season. It could be seen as performance enhancing. Seems like a simple concept.
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Post#210 » by Zombiesonics » Sat May 18, 2019 2:00 pm

guy has an addiction problem and is banned for two years? Seems harsh, ban him for a year and make sure he enters a rehabilitative program and receives clinical treatment. Addiction to something like opioids or other hard drugs is a disease, not a choice.
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Post#211 » by dms269 » Sat May 18, 2019 2:06 pm

Yall do realize that sending someone to rehab isn't this magic pill that will cure all ills?

People going to rehab have to want to change and be committed. The NBA can't just force him to go to rehab and assume all will be better. If an addict doesn't see anything wrong with their addiction (many think this way), then the NBA will just be throwing money away.

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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#212 » by BullyKing » Sat May 18, 2019 2:43 pm

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BullyKing wrote:
Hoosier TJ wrote:Lol! Guy is a moron. Glad he won't be back in a Pacers uniform ever again, one season was enough. Extremely lazy, skipped practices, rarely engaged, had to have led the league in missed layups. I would have cut him a month into the season. Major downgrade to Lance.

Good news is now he can move on with his life and go do something else with 20% effort.


I have no problem with the NBA banning him. The rules and consequences are clearly laid out and he failed to follow them.

But for you to laugh about what is likely a very serious problem for him because you didn't like how he performed for the basketball team that you root for is just straight pathetic.

I don't have pity for people who have every opportunity in the world to succeed and continually mess it up with stupid decisions. I hope he fixes himself, but this news didn't shock me or any other Pacers fan based on his actions this past year.


If only there were emotions between pity and mockery...
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#213 » by Zombiesonics » Sat May 18, 2019 2:59 pm

dms269 wrote:Yall do realize that sending someone to rehab isn't this magic pill that will cure all ills?

People going to rehab have to want to change and be committed. The NBA can't just force him to go to rehab and assume all will be better. If an addict doesn't see anything wrong with their addiction (many think this way), then the NBA will just be throwing money away.

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Not everyone is a lost cause, with the right clinical approach and effort things can change. evans is 29, still very young and has time to confront his problems with the right approach. You dont just give up on someone at 29.
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Post#214 » by MrDollarBills » Sat May 18, 2019 4:00 pm

I hope some of you guys never encounter a loved one who is suffering from addiction. Cruelty is like the default option for people nowadays and it's gross.
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Post#215 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat May 18, 2019 5:57 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I hope some of you guys never encounter a loved one who is suffering from addiction. Cruelty is like the default option for people nowadays and it's gross.


It’s much more complicated than that, there is a fine line between being supportive and enabling, and your employer is not responsible for carefully walking that line. And yes I’ve had loved ones that have battled addiction including my parents.
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#216 » by Promezclan » Sat May 18, 2019 6:16 pm

If it's cocaine, that would really be dumb of him to do enough to get caught 4+ times - it's not even really addictive. Meth or opioids more understandable (but much worse, off course).
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#217 » by MrDollarBills » Sun May 19, 2019 4:09 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I hope some of you guys never encounter a loved one who is suffering from addiction. Cruelty is like the default option for people nowadays and it's gross.


It’s much more complicated than that, there is a fine line between being supportive and enabling, and your employer is not responsible for carefully walking that line. And yes I’ve had loved ones that have battled addiction including my parents.


Much respect to you. However, I'm not talking about enabling. there is a clear difference between people who are just being cruel and people who don't want to be enablers.
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Post#218 » by TO11 » Sun May 19, 2019 9:57 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:guy has an addiction problem and is banned for two years? Seems harsh, ban him for a year and make sure he enters a rehabilitative program and receives clinical treatment. Addiction to something like opioids or other hard drugs is a disease, not a choice.

You make an interesting statement. Addiction is a disease. Sure, I can agree with you that addiction is a disease, but that's not saying ****. A disease is any abnormal condition that negatively affects the structure and function of an organism that is not caused by external injury. So yes you are right.

Then you follow up with "Not a choice". I am not sure if you are inferring that all diseases have nothing to do with the choices we make in life. I sincerely hope you don't feel this way. I could spend all day here listing off diseases that have RISK FACTORS based on how we live our life and take care of our body. (Type II Diabetes, Obesity, Lung Cancer, Alcoholic Hepatitis and the list goes on). Sure some individuals may have certain predilections/genetics that make them more likely to get these diseases as is true with addiction. Sometimes, (as might be the case with Tyreke Evans) people get diseases when they did the best they could to avoid them.

My goal isn't to judge Evans at all....I simply can't because I don't know his situation exactly, nor would I, because I have my own struggles. But your statement is just so factually wrong and misleading. Give people more credit, we can control a lot more in our lives than what you portray here.
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Re: Tyreke Evans dismissed and disqualified from league 

Post#219 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 19, 2019 10:32 pm

Well. There goes the Lakers big free agent pickup.
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Post#220 » by Scalabrine » Sun May 19, 2019 11:53 pm

Does anyone know what he did, yet?

Kinda makes sense given his awful play this year. He really played well and transformed his game last year in Memphis too. In Indy he has just about every opportunity to step into a bigger role once Dipo went down and he just couldn't put it together.

Hopefully the guy can use this as the moment he turns his life around and gets the help he needs.
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