2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[alpngso]

Wonder if we go big, wing or guard in 2021 draft. I am guessing it’s gonna be a guard if FVV leaves. I guess big also makes sense if we are trying to resign one of Gasol or Ibaka

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Does anyone think (don't kill me) Ben Simmons may fit what we do as a team (pass, defend, handle) better than Pascal? Obviously Ben"s value is in the crapper right now compared to Siakam so other pieces would have to be involved, but could something happen here?

soemthing i've envisioned. i can't see masai giving up siakam, but if lowry wanted to go home and requested a trade, i wouldn't be against a simmons for lowry trade. og-simmons-siakam would be scary.

[Raptors_128]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

[HeadtopChunes]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

No I don’t like anyone in this draft more than OG

[tecumseh18]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

This is Pelton's suggestion on ESPN. My response is - what if the Raps can trade our first for Jerami Grant (cheap contract expires 2021), and keep Paul Watson and even SJ as backups for next year. Is OG worth a #2 then?

It all depends on how the Raptors scouts - who are, y'know, pretty good - assess the top end of this draft.

[Raptors_128]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

This is Pelton's suggestion on ESPN. My response is - what if the Raps can trade our first for Jerami Grant (cheap contract expires 2021), and keep Paul Watson and even SJ as backups for next year. Is OG worth a #2 then?

It all depends on how the Raptors scouts - who are, y'know, pretty good - assess the top end of this draft.

For me the value is there but, I’m not making the move unless there’s someone there we absolutely love. If the organization thinks Edwards/Ball/Wiseman is the next big thing then, I’m all for it.

I was also thinking if we get 2 we can possibly trade down to 7 or 8. Based on rumours the Pistons and Knicks are super high on Ball. If we can score another lottery pick in the 2021 draft from them, we can get our SF of the future from that draft.

[alpngso]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

This is Pelton's suggestion on ESPN. My response is - what if the Raps can trade our first for Jerami Grant (cheap contract expires 2021), and keep Paul Watson and even SJ as backups for next year. Is OG worth a #2 then?

It all depends on how the Raptors scouts - who are, y'know, pretty good - assess the top end of this draft.

Jerami Grant’s 20-21 is player option which he will decline and become a FA this offseason. He made it clear that he wants to get paid.

[nabbs]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

This is Pelton's suggestion on ESPN. My response is - what if the Raps can trade our first for Jerami Grant (cheap contract expires 2021), and keep Paul Watson and even SJ as backups for next year. Is OG worth a #2 then?

It all depends on how the Raptors scouts - who are, y'know, pretty good - assess the top end of this draft.

For me the value is there but, I’m not making the move unless there’s someone there we absolutely love. If the organization thinks Edwards/Ball/Wiseman is the next big thing then, I’m all for it.

I was also thinking if we get 2 we can possibly trade down to 7 or 8. Based on rumours the Pistons and Knicks are super high on Ball. If we can score another lottery pick in the 2021 draft from them, we can get our SF of the future from that draft.

This isn't the draft to trade up in and a lot of college writers/scouts (non front office people) love Melo put his defense and shooting are just way too much of a project imo and then Anthony Edwards is favored by front offices but he isnt spetacular at one skill. I'd rather take my chances with the ground work we have put in with OG.


WE are title contenders and OG is a seasoned piece that continues to grow and can help us win now. None of those other guys help us win now. Imo the move would be to consider trading down to acquire more draft capital and either use it or flip it to another team along with one of our players

[nabbs]

I think our off season looks like this:

Sign Fred to 4/90
Gasol for the MLE
Giles at the Vet Min
Convert Watson
2020 1st (Going to use Tillman here as a placeholder)
2020 2nd becomes our two way who replaces Watson

Kyle/TD
Fred/Thomas/Mccaw
OG/Paul Watson
Pascal/Stanley Johson/Hernandez
Gasol/Tillman/Giles

[tecumseh18]

Say the Warriors approach the Raptors for a deal around the #2 pick in the draft for a package that features OG as the centrepiece. Are you interested?

This is Pelton's suggestion on ESPN. My response is - what if the Raps can trade our first for Jerami Grant (cheap contract expires 2021), and keep Paul Watson and even SJ as backups for next year. Is OG worth a #2 then?

It all depends on how the Raptors scouts - who are, y'know, pretty good - assess the top end of this draft.

Jerami Grant’s 20-21 is player option which he will decline and become a FA this offseason. He made it clear that he wants to get paid.

Thanks. My initial thought was that he was available in 2020, but my half-assed google search said he expired in 2021. What does a guy with a 14.4 PER and sub-40 3-point shooting percentage consider getting "paid". $12 mill? $15 mill?

I've always been an OG proponent, but now I'm starting to wonder if he has the offensive mentality to help us consistently. He seems determined to be a permanent fifth option. It took a cheap shot to get him going in Game 2. Before that his shots and free throws were embarrassingly bad. Grant for four years at ~$10 mill AAV plus a second overall pick (if there's a draftee who is highly valued by the organization) sounds pretty decent.

OTOH, tHis is a horrible, horrible draft.

[BallstriKer]

I think our off season looks like this:

Sign Fred to 4/90
Gasol for the MLE
Giles at the Vet Min
Convert Watson
2020 1st (Going to use Tillman here as a placeholder)
2020 2nd becomes our two way who replaces Watson

Kyle/TD
Fred/Thomas/Mccaw
OG/Paul Watson
Pascal/Stanley Johson/Hernandez
Gasol/Tillman/Giles

That's a solid roster. This is what I think will happen too.

[Raptors_128]

This is Pelton's suggestion on ESPN. My response is - what if the Raps can trade our first for Jerami Grant (cheap contract expires 2021), and keep Paul Watson and even SJ as backups for next year. Is OG worth a #2 then?

It all depends on how the Raptors scouts - who are, y'know, pretty good - assess the top end of this draft.

Jerami Grant’s 20-21 is player option which he will decline and become a FA this offseason. He made it clear that he wants to get paid.

Thanks. My initial thought was that he was available in 2020, but my half-assed google search said he expired in 2021. What does a guy with a 14.4 PER and sub-40 3-point shooting percentage consider getting "paid". $12 mill? $15 mill?

I've always been an OG proponent, but now I'm starting to wonder if he has the offensive mentality to help us consistently. He seems determined to be a permanent fifth option. It took a cheap shot to get him going in Game 2. Before that his shots and free throws were embarrassingly bad. Grant for four years at ~$10 mill AAV plus a second overall pick (if there's a draftee who is highly valued by the organization) sounds pretty decent.

OTOH, tHis is a horrible, horrible draft.

I think Grant is looking for $15+ mill. If we’re going after Giannis we can’t afford him (unless it’s a big 1-year deal). Offering 1 year deal to someone like Crowder/Harkless might be the way to go.

If we get Giannis then Siakam can play the 3.

FVV/Edwards/Siakam/Giannis/Baynes?
Hayes/Norm/Siakam/Giannis/Ibaka + 2021 lottery 1st after trading down?

[TdotRap4Lyfe]

In terms of second last pick, how good would Kenyon Martin Jr be? I've heard nothing about him, tankathon slotted him there but I doubt we actually choose him. Is he a decent prospect? Should he have stayed in school longer?

[IceBelly05]

Reports are that the Mavericks are willing to trade the 18th pick and wondering if norm for Courtney Lee and the 18th gets it done. Courtney Lee would be a non factor beyond making the salary’s work but he’s owed 12 mill for one more year beyond this one (unless I’m wrong) where as norm has 10+ mill per year for a few more years. Really the enticing factor he would be to get to 18th, & 29th would be great to get 2 cheap rotation pieces as we resign Fred while still trying to shoot for giannis in 21

[720]

If Giannis wants to sign with us after next season how do we free up capspace? We would have to trade with the Bucks right?

[Mattatron]

I think there was eventually 2 reasons behind lowrys extension: 1. Trade value, getting something back with his salary 2. Hes feeling that he is appreciated and made 120 in the last 4 years if we hit 2021. Maybe Lowry will sign for less, I mean, really really less amount of money (Dirk style) when Giannis really should give us a chance.

Lowry, VanVleet, Anunoby, Siakam and Giannis at the 5!
Ibaka or Gasol (one of them) of the bench with Powell, Davis and Thomas. If the numbers work until then.

[Psubs]

I think there was eventually 2 reasons behind lowrys extension: 1. Trade value, getting something back with his salary 2. Hes feeling that he is appreciated and made 120 in the last 4 years if we hit 2021. Maybe Lowry will sign for less, I mean, really really less amount of money (Dirk style) when Giannis really should give us a chance.

Lowry, VanVleet, Anunoby, Siakam and Giannis at the 5!
Ibaka or Gasol (one of them) of the bench with Powell, Davis and Thomas. If the numbers work until then.

Do you think Kyle would do 12-12-12-12-12 (team option) to retire a Raptor?

Marc 10-10 (team option)?

[HeadtopChunes]

I think our off season looks like this:

Sign Fred to 4/90
Gasol for the MLE
Giles at the Vet Min
Convert Watson
2020 1st (Going to use Tillman here as a placeholder)
2020 2nd becomes our two way who replaces Watson

Kyle/TD
Fred/Thomas/Mccaw
OG/Paul Watson
Pascal/Stanley Johson/Hernandez
Gasol/Tillman/Giles

That's a solid roster. This is what I think will happen too.

Even better when you remember Norm exists lol

[HeadtopChunes]

If Giannis wants to sign with us after next season how do we free up capspace? We would have to trade with the Bucks right?

Nope we will have the space outright no trade needed

[HeadtopChunes]

Reports are that the Mavericks are willing to trade the 18th pick and wondering if norm for Courtney Lee and the 18th gets it done. Courtney Lee would be a non factor beyond making the salary’s work but he’s owed 12 mill for one more year beyond this one (unless I’m wrong) where as norm has 10+ mill per year for a few more years. Really the enticing factor he would be to get to 18th, & 29th would be great to get 2 cheap rotation pieces as we resign Fred while still trying to shoot for giannis in 21

Norm for draft assets isn’t a bad idea imo

I think he’s worth more than 18 though, would look higher