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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#201 » by JonFromVA » Tue Feb 2, 2021 4:52 pm

Part of our shooting woes is that Andre is not passing back out when we make an entry pass. When we engage him out at the 3pt line, he will look to dish assists. But get him the ball below the free-throw line and he's going to try to score no matter how many defenders he draws or tip backs it takes. Even little stuff like passing back out immediately so he can re-establish better position isn't happening.

It probably feels at times to Andre, Collin, and even Darius that they have to try to carry the team or we just won't score, but if they don't look for their teammates it becomes self-fulfilling.

Floor spacing is still a major issue. It's great that he can, but Allen won't always have the luxury of dunking over shorter players; and we need to clear some defenders out of the paint.

More than one chicken & the egg problem going on ...
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

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Post#203 » by jbk1234 » Wed Feb 3, 2021 9:39 pm

Here's the non-update, update on Love
Read on Twitter
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#204 » by JonFromVA » Wed Feb 3, 2021 9:41 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Here's the non-update, update on Love


It's going slower than I was led to believe, might still be a couple of weeks out at this point assuming no set backs.
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Post#205 » by jbk1234 » Wed Feb 3, 2021 9:41 pm



I liked the line about the Ls taking a toll and it would be wise for everyone who wants the tank to continue to read.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#206 » by Harper4Ferry? » Wed Feb 3, 2021 10:39 pm

Bolden will be playing in the D League bubble.
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Post#207 » by jbk1234 » Thu Feb 4, 2021 3:47 pm

Once Fedor has figured out a problem, the problem is obvious.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#208 » by jbk1234 » Sun Feb 7, 2021 12:45 am

Read on Twitter
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#209 » by jbk1234 » Sun Feb 7, 2021 4:25 pm

Welp

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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#210 » by Stillwater » Sun Feb 7, 2021 6:48 pm

and the hits just keep on coming. i would argue they maybe should actually tank now given this news and the obvious struggles too come in the next road stretch...but at the same time I would at least like to see them make a run with KLove in the line up if that ever happens
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#211 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sun Feb 7, 2021 7:15 pm

geez, Larry was integral to us playing acceptable basketball.
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#212 » by JonFromVA » Mon Feb 8, 2021 4:14 pm

Let's see how long Kevin lasts. I think a big part of the attraction of bringing in Drummond was the chance to pair him with Love. The trade-deadline is still pretty far away, so maybe we'll finally see it for a bit; but the Nance + Drummond pairing was a big part of our defense - which has plummeted to 14th in the league.
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Post#213 » by jbk1234 » Mon Feb 8, 2021 6:06 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Let's see how long Kevin lasts. I think a big part of the attraction of bringing in Drummond was the chance to pair him with Love. The trade-deadline is still pretty far away, so maybe we'll finally see it for a bit; but the Nance + Drummond pairing was a big part of our defense - which has plummeted to 14th in the league.


I think part if it is that your inability to score, and even more so the propensity to turn it over, is impacting the defense. If I were GM for a day, I'd give Drummond and Love about 10 games in an effort to boost Drummond's trade value and if there are still no offers, I'd start Allen. The bigger long-term question is Love and whether the Cavs are willing to trade him for straight cap space this summer. They need to see Love start alongside Allen to get a better of sense of how open they should be to dumping him (especially because they have yet to draft anyone who appears to be legitimate replacement).

Love's absence against good defensive teams is clearly limiting Sexton's ability to be a net positive player. That raises other issues in terms of team building and future financial commitments that the Cavs will have to sort out. I've seen enough of Drummond to conclude that his on-the-court value is directly tied to whether he tries to be the focus of the offense and/or do too much. His value to a team will be directly tied to the amount of compensation he receives as a result. Drummond and his agent are likely to be worried about getting paid first, and his best role on a winning team a distant second.

The Cavs need to move on to evaluating the futures of Love and Sexton in that order.
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#214 » by Stillwater » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:47 pm

Read on Twitter

so this extra couple days off and being back home might help them reset esp knowing they dont have to
be concerned with Dre going off plan to get his numbers up.
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#215 » by JonFromVA » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:51 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Read on Twitter

so this extra couple days off and being back home might help them reset esp knowing they dont have to
be concerned with Dre going off plan to get his numbers up.


Playing hard? Sounds like Love still isn't practicing with the team ..
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#216 » by Stillwater » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:01 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
Read on Twitter

so this extra couple days off and being back home might help them reset esp knowing they dont have to
be concerned with Dre going off plan to get his numbers up.


Playing hard? Sounds like Love still isn't practicing with the team ..

is or isnt? I thought the current report was he is back practicing with the team but its still
just the next step towards his eventual return. I think what Sexton was probably talking about
was being home and having some time to practice besides just getting shots up pre game
is being back at it
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#217 » by JonFromVA » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:21 pm

Stillwater wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
Read on Twitter

so this extra couple days off and being back home might help them reset esp knowing they dont have to
be concerned with Dre going off plan to get his numbers up.


Playing hard? Sounds like Love still isn't practicing with the team ..

is or isnt? I thought the current report was he is back practicing with the team but its still
just the next step towards his eventual return. I think what Sexton was probably talking about
was being home and having some time to practice besides just getting shots up pre game
is being back at it


The last thing I read said Kevin was working out with the team. Participating in team practices would be his next step, I just have my doubts that he'd be working hard.

In reality, I think what Sexton was doing here was making a subtle dig at Andre not being professional about things such as practice.
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#218 » by Stillwater » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:33 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Playing hard? Sounds like Love still isn't practicing with the team ..

is or isnt? I thought the current report was he is back practicing with the team but its still
just the next step towards his eventual return. I think what Sexton was probably talking about
was being home and having some time to practice besides just getting shots up pre game
is being back at it


The last thing I read said Kevin was working out with the team. Participating in team practices would be his next step, I just have my doubts that he'd be working hard.

In reality, I think what Sexton was doing here was making a subtle dig at Andre not being professional about things such as practice.

he has recently participated in on court drills I call that practicing with the team and tbh I dont think they have been practicing at all until getting back hom given the restrictions on getting court usage on the road beyond pregame etc. the reality is its much harder to rebuild this season than most. KLove is probably coming back soon or all this "news" wouldnt be news at all.
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Post#219 » by jbk1234 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:47 am

Stillwater wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Stillwater wrote:is or isnt? I thought the current report was he is back practicing with the team but its still
just the next step towards his eventual return. I think what Sexton was probably talking about
was being home and having some time to practice besides just getting shots up pre game
is being back at it


The last thing I read said Kevin was working out with the team. Participating in team practices would be his next step, I just have my doubts that he'd be working hard.

In reality, I think what Sexton was doing here was making a subtle dig at Andre not being professional about things such as practice.

he has recently participated in on court drills I call that practicing with the team and tbh I dont think they have been practicing at all until getting back hom given the restrictions on getting court usage on the road beyond pregame etc. the reality is its much harder to rebuild this season than most. KLove is probably coming back soon or all this "news" wouldnt be news at all.


Love has had a set back and my worry is that this actually an issue with his Achille's tendon and not a calf strain.

https://cavaliersnation.com/2021/02/20/report-cavs-offer-worrisome-update-regarding-kevin-loves-calf-injury/
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Re: Cavs 2020-21 season 

Post#220 » by Stillwater » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:23 am

So much for love playing at all this season then and given that maybe they can get a damn disabled player provision and cut him
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