Randle vs. Porzingis

[jstudabaka]

If you’re trying to win a championship, you still want KP over Randle imo. Ignoring injury risk.

Why? KP can't rebound or defend

[The_Hater]

If you’re trying to win a championship, you still want KP over Randle imo. Ignoring injury risk.

Why? KP can't rebound or defend

Why do a few people keep claiming that KP can’t defend? Which is completely false. He’s one of the top rim protectors in the league for God’s sake which is considerably more important for a big man then guarding players 20 feet from the rim.

And you can get back to me with proof on why individual RPG is an important stat in regards to winning? Andre Drummond and Hassan Whiteside are anxiously waiting for confirmation on this as their playing time gradually slips to zero.

On top of all this, I saw how well KP played in the playoffs last year. Randle’s playoff resume is still a little thin.

Edit: I just looked up the per36 rebounding numbers for KP vs Randle the past 2 seasons.

Randle

10.8/10.7

KP

10.7/9.7

So there actually minimal difference there as well. Randle just happens to be 2nd in the league in mpg which inflates his stats.

[3toheadmelo]

If you’re trying to win a championship, you still want KP over Randle imo. Ignoring injury risk.

Why? KP can't rebound or defend

Why do a few people keep claiming that KP can’t defend? Which is completely false. He’s one of the top rim protectors in the league for God’s sake which is considerably more important for a big man then guarding players 20 feet from the rim.

And you can get back to me with proof on why individual RPG is an important stat in regards to winning? Andre Drummond and Hassan Whiteside are anxiously waiting for confirmation on this as their playing time gradually slips to zero.

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[The_Hater]

That’s the current season. 18 games where he hasn’t been fully healthy. But we have 5 full seasons and 243 games prior to this year which tell a much different story. Sample size matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristaps-porzingis-defensive-rating-year-by-year

And this is just from last season.

https://www.mavs.com/back-to-basketball-kp-is-worthy/

[3toheadmelo]

That’s the current season. 18 games where he hasn’t been fully healthy. But we have 5 full seasons and 243 games prior to this year which tell a much different story. Sample size matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristaps-porzingis-defensive-rating-year-by-year

And this is just from last season.

https://www.mavs.com/back-to-basketball-kp-is-worthy/

Last season is pretty irrelevant

[3toheadmelo]

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[The_Hater]

That’s the current season. 18 games where he hasn’t been fully healthy. But we have 5 full seasons and 243 games prior to this year which tell a much different story. Sample size matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristaps-porzingis-defensive-rating-year-by-year

And this is just from last season.

https://www.mavs.com/back-to-basketball-kp-is-worthy/

Last season is pretty irrelevant

So 18 games are relevant in your world but the previous 243 games are irrelevant? Learn the meaning of sample size my friend.

Sometimes remaining biased and ignoring the facts that don’t fit your narrative is just easier for some.

Flush.

[Texas Chuck]

Knicks fans have been down bad so long they forget how to act being a fanbase whose team is winning. It's wild

tbf we only really had a rough 4 or 5 year stretch as Dirk aged out, and Mavs fans aren't exactly handling having Luka with a great deal of maturity either. Of course many of those guys aren't Mavs fans but rather Luka fans.

And its only a handful of Knicks guys who are truly obnoxious. Rooting for the Mavs to give them good draft picks is totally fair game in my book. And Randle is playing better than KP this season so I think we got to take that too.

[3toheadmelo]

That’s the current season. 18 games where he hasn’t been fully healthy. But we have 5 full seasons and 243 games prior to this year which tell a much different story. Sample size matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristaps-porzingis-defensive-rating-year-by-year

And this is just from last season.

https://www.mavs.com/back-to-basketball-kp-is-worthy/

Last season is pretty irrelevant

So 18 games are relevant in your world but the previous 243 games are irrelevant? Learn the meaning of sample size my friend.

Sometimes remaining biased and ignoring the facts that don’t fit your narrative is just easier for some.

Flush.

Nah you’re ignoring the facts. Porzingis has been complete trash on defense this season. What he did last year or 3 years ago is completely irrelevant. Pretty odd that you’re using that as your argument. But I guess that’s your way of justifying you’re wrong once again. Carry on with your Anti Knicks agenda like you always do.

[NY2k1]

Last season is pretty irrelevant

So 18 games are relevant in your world but the previous 243 games are irrelevant? Learn the meaning of sample size my friend.

Sometimes remaining biased and ignoring the facts that don’t fit your narrative is just easier for some.

Flush.

Nah you’re ignoring the facts. Porzingis has been complete trash on defense this season. What he did last year or 3 years ago is completely irrelevant. Pretty odd that you’re using that as your argument. But I guess that’s your way of justifying you’re wrong once again. Carry on with your Anti Knicks agenda like you always do.

I'm a Knicks fan, but let's be fair. KP was always a good defensive player. Not sure what is going on with his defense this season (maybe injuries, not content with the Mavs, etc.), but 243 past games do still matter more as a whole than 18 games this season when it comes to his defense. Granted, it could be that his defense has fallen off a cliff permanently, but not sure you can make that determination after only 18 games.

[Woodsanity]

Porzingis is a good defender when healthy but he is very injury prone and eventually his injuries may cause him to be a bad defender permanently.

I would take Porzingis if he could magically stay healthy but otherwise its Randle very easily.

[3toheadmelo]

So 18 games are relevant in your world but the previous 243 games are irrelevant? Learn the meaning of sample size my friend.

Sometimes remaining biased and ignoring the facts that don’t fit your narrative is just easier for some.

Flush.

Nah you’re ignoring the facts. Porzingis has been complete trash on defense this season. What he did last year or 3 years ago is completely irrelevant. Pretty odd that you’re using that as your argument. But I guess that’s your way of justifying you’re wrong once again. Carry on with your Anti Knicks agenda like you always do.

I'm a Knicks fan, but let's be fair. KP was always a good defensive player. Not sure what is going on with his defense this season (maybe injuries, not content with the Mavs, etc.), but 243 past games do still matter more as a whole than 18 games this season when it comes to his defense. Granted, it could be that his defense has fallen off a cliff permanently, but not sure you can make that determination after only 18 games.

Might be permanent. He has no mobility now

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You take KP. He looked like the Mavs defensive anchor at times last season

The Mavs defense was average last year (18th), and terrible this year (24th).


Randle has a better contract, has working knees, rebounds, isn't a diva and is on a team that's 2nd in the league defensively. We've had both, and I'd take Randle over Kristaps everyday of the week.

People picking Kristaps are doing it based on what they hope he is, and not what he actually is.

[RHODEY]

That’s the current season. 18 games where he hasn’t been fully healthy. But we have 5 full seasons and 243 games prior to this year which tell a much different story. Sample size matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristaps-porzingis-defensive-rating-year-by-year

And this is just from last season.

https://www.mavs.com/back-to-basketball-kp-is-worthy/

Current KP is a shell of that player defensively, his athleticism is gone.

[gorz]

Give me current randle over healthy porzingis. Better scorer rebounder playmaker tougher physically less of headcase. Randle is a better version of ben simmons.

[stormi]

Give me current randle over healthy porzingis. Better scorer rebounder playmaker tougher physically. Randle is a better version of ben simmons and we know how much rgm loves Ben simmons.

here y'all go ruining a good thing...

[h4rrison]

Right now Randle but he looks to have peaked. KP still has room to improve imo. He just needs to stay healthy.

[SirCharles3434]

Randle vs Porzingis?? Shew, I remember the days back in 2013 when it was Randle vs Wiggins and Jabari Parker. Looks like Randle is winning that battle as well.

[ZB9]

The Mavs are a much better team with KP on the court, whether he scores a lot of points or not.

[DaGawd]

Right now Randle but he looks to have peaked. KP still has room to improve imo. He just needs to stay healthy.

KP only a year younger than Randle.. he’s pretty much Who he is at this point