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Pippen’s son recently passed away. Not sure if that’s contributing to these emotional and fiesty sound bytes but he might not be in a good head space to be launching his book.
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Was it just me or did that read like Pip was getting feistier and feistier on bourbon as the interview went on?
That was some good stuff. He should likely put out a line of bitters to go with his whiskey lol.
I like that he calls Phil racist but yet he can just say Barkley never beat up no black guy only some white boys and that’s not racist? I’ll say this as I expected he is becoming a hot take celebrity and that’s all good but he is going a little hard. Just calling Jrue the little guard, Giannis trashing, all the humiliating talk. He is going way harder “personally” on these guys. It’s interesting. He will sell some books.
I thought his answer to this question was odd. I get his point, but what he says is so money/fame driven.Do you think you could’ve been an even bigger star?
Financially, I could’ve been a different star. But to have the longevity that I’ve had from a public standpoint? Nothing replaces wins. That’s what puts you on such a stage of having this forever phase that people remember. That comes from winning. That’s not coming from just being in the league 17 years. It comes from being on the forefront for 17 years. Being on people’s television set, year in and year out, playing for a title. I could’ve went and been financially better off for the moment. But winning has given me financial stability for a long time.
That comment is out both sides of his mouth... I could have been paid more is all he is saying, and all he ever has said really. He admits that he is only known though because he played with that Bulls team, which gave him more money and fame. He was absolutely not marketable on the level Jordan was and if he wasn't next to Jordan he might have Kevin Johnson type recognition. KJ's earnings were 30 million on a quick google search. I don't think Pippen leading a team gets him anywhere near Barkley or Ewing, I think the KJ comp is fair but maybe there is a better one. So if you want to go Clyde Drexler (which I think is fair too) his earnings are 27 million. Pippen is @ 110 million. Ewing is @ 123 Million, so I am note sure exactly what he is saying all in all to be honest. Pippen on say Seattle if they took him instead of trading him is not getting him Ewing money IMHO.
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HomoSapien wrote:Pippen’s son recently passed away. Not sure if that’s contributing to these emotional and fiesty sound bytes but he might not be in a good head space to be launching his book.
We honestly can't say, but this fits her personality prior to his son passing. I think his PR team and him decided it was a good time to cash in after the last dance and I agree it is. There is a changing of the guard in the NBA, the Jordan era was officially put to bed with the last dance more or less and the Lebron era (on court) is ending. Hot take personalities are getting press and Pippen is primed for it right now. I am sure his son passing has an impact on him, but I don't think this is motivating this stuff IMHO. This fire started a year ago when the Last Dance aired.
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Michael Jackson wrote:Dan Z wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:
That was some good stuff. He should likely put out a line of bitters to go with his whiskey lol.
I like that he calls Phil racist but yet he can just say Barkley never beat up no black guy only some white boys and that’s not racist? I’ll say this as I expected he is becoming a hot take celebrity and that’s all good but he is going a little hard. Just calling Jrue the little guard, Giannis trashing, all the humiliating talk. He is going way harder “personally” on these guys. It’s interesting. He will sell some books.
I thought his answer to this question was odd. I get his point, but what he says is so money/fame driven.Do you think you could’ve been an even bigger star?
Financially, I could’ve been a different star. But to have the longevity that I’ve had from a public standpoint? Nothing replaces wins. That’s what puts you on such a stage of having this forever phase that people remember. That comes from winning. That’s not coming from just being in the league 17 years. It comes from being on the forefront for 17 years. Being on people’s television set, year in and year out, playing for a title. I could’ve went and been financially better off for the moment. But winning has given me financial stability for a long time.
That comment is out both sides of his mouth... I could have been paid more is all he is saying, and all he ever has said really. He admits that he is only known though because he played with that Bulls team, which gave him more money and fame. He was absolutely not marketable on the level Jordan was and if he wasn't next to Jordan he might have Kevin Johnson type recognition. KJ's earnings were 30 million on a quick google search. I don't think Pippen leading a team gets him anywhere near Barkley or Ewing, I think the KJ comp is fair but maybe there is a better one. So if you want to go Clyde Drexler (which I think is fair too) his earnings are 27 million. Pippen is @ 110 million. Ewing is @ 123 Million, so I am note sure exactly what he is saying all in all to be honest. Pippen on say Seattle if they took him instead of trading him is not getting him Ewing money IMHO.
I agree.
I just found it interesting that he was asked about his career and his reply was about money and fame.
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Just listened to the actual interview on YouTube. Pippen just burned down the relationship completely. Buh-bye, childhood.
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It hadn’t occurred to be before, but the Kukoc episode sort of indicates Scottie is more or less like everyone else of elite talent. They want that spotlight, and they want the ego to be catered to above everyone else. Scottie sublimated it because he was dominated by the best player of all time. It is good that he was able to do it. But he’s less a patron saint of team first attitude than is sometimes portrayed. And as we can see, and have seen, he resented a lot of his situation.
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Just listened to the actual interview on YouTube. Pippen just burned down the relationship completely. Buh-bye, childhood.
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Pip knows what he is doing... He is making all his decisions while listening to Kanye Wests My Dark Twisted Fantasy. He is going hard and hats off that's the way he is going to sell his stuff. Don't have to be loved, just have to be in the news. You can tell he doesn't believe his takes on some of this stuff, I mean even the Steve Kerr thing. Does anyone believe PJ was a racist and that's why he called that play for Kukoc? It isn't even logical, and maybe Phil is, but that isn't the evidence that is to be presented to prove the case. Patrick tried to feed him with the Steve Kerr shot comment and Pip kinda missed it. Pippen is well aware though that he is giving hot takes and he is using this media tour for his book to it's fullest.
The Kwame/Pippen podcast has to happen soon
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Just listened to the actual interview on YouTube. Pippen just burned down the relationship completely. Buh-bye, childhood.
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Dan Patrick is just sitting there stunned the whole time by how much of an idiot Scottie is. Just incoherent drivel spewing from his mouth the entire time. So disappointed in Scottie. He was always a moron but I thought he maybe grew up a little and matured, but no, he may be worse than ever today.
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Michael Jackson wrote:Pip knows what he is doing... He is making all his decisions while listening to Kanye Wests My Dark Twisted Fantasy. He is going hard and hats off that's the way he is going to sell his stuff. Don't have to be loved, just have to be in the news. You can tell he doesn't believe his takes on some of this stuff, I mean even the Steve Kerr thing. Does anyone believe PJ was a racist and that's why he called that play for Kukoc? It isn't even logical, and maybe Phil is, but that isn't the evidence that is to be presented to prove the case. Patrick tried to feed him with the Steve Kerr shot comment and Pip kinda missed it. Pippen is well aware though that he is giving hot takes and he is using this media tour for his book to it's fullest.
The Kwame/Pippen podcast has to happen soon
I don't think Pippen knows what he is doing.
The stuff he's digging up isn't interesting to most people. His primary fan base doesn't want to hear / doesn't believe this and thinks far worse of him for it. In the end, he was pretty lousy as a talking head. He's painful to listen to, so maybe this is just his last ditch effort wreaking of desperation, but I don't see how he meaningfully capitalizes on this.
Odds are, he was getting paid way more to be a Bulls figurehead with no responsibilities than anything he's going to do now going down this path.
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dougthonus wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:Pip knows what he is doing... He is making all his decisions while listening to Kanye Wests My Dark Twisted Fantasy. He is going hard and hats off that's the way he is going to sell his stuff. Don't have to be loved, just have to be in the news. You can tell he doesn't believe his takes on some of this stuff, I mean even the Steve Kerr thing. Does anyone believe PJ was a racist and that's why he called that play for Kukoc? It isn't even logical, and maybe Phil is, but that isn't the evidence that is to be presented to prove the case. Patrick tried to feed him with the Steve Kerr shot comment and Pip kinda missed it. Pippen is well aware though that he is giving hot takes and he is using this media tour for his book to it's fullest.
The Kwame/Pippen podcast has to happen soon
I don't think Pippen knows what he is doing.
The stuff he's digging up isn't interesting to most people. His primary fan base doesn't want to hear / doesn't believe this and thinks far worse of him for it. In the end, he was pretty lousy as a talking head. He's painful to listen to, so maybe this is just his last ditch effort wreaking of desperation, but I don't see how he meaningfully capitalizes on this.
Odds are, he was getting paid way more to be a Bulls figurehead with no responsibilities than anything he's going to do now going down this path.
Yes I phrased that wrong, I meant he is intentionally doing this, not so much as he knows what he is doing and this is oh so smart. He is not likable even in a hater way. He is pretty bad, but he is going all in on this to sell his brands. This is again another bad investment decision he is getting in. I am sure his Bulls job was pretty solid and I can’t imagine bourbon and books makes more than the Bulls paid. I mean he isn’t going to ah e the next Jameson or Patron, it won’t even sell like Cabo Wabo. I am sure he is getting duped by a business partner again and in 2 years we are going to hear about his he got duped again.
The funny thing is he is just giving Jordan’s side of the story more credibility with everything he says. Basically the exact opposite of what he is trying to accomplish.
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Just listened to the actual interview on YouTube. Pippen just burned down the relationship completely.
I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this interview until the “do you speak English?” moment there.
Not sure if Scottie’s wrong - but he’s definitely coming across like an a-hole
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I didn’t realize how hard it is to listen to someone who talks about themselves in the 3rd person until this video. Unbearable.
KC: Do you still think you're a championship-caliber team?
Gar: I never said that and correct me if I'm wrong
Gar: I never said that and correct me if I'm wrong
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We have created a culture that rewards people for believing everything that didn't go right in their life can be blamed on racism. It's no wonder Pippen played that card now.
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dougthonus wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:Pip knows what he is doing... He is making all his decisions while listening to Kanye Wests My Dark Twisted Fantasy. He is going hard and hats off that's the way he is going to sell his stuff. Don't have to be loved, just have to be in the news. You can tell he doesn't believe his takes on some of this stuff, I mean even the Steve Kerr thing. Does anyone believe PJ was a racist and that's why he called that play for Kukoc? It isn't even logical, and maybe Phil is, but that isn't the evidence that is to be presented to prove the case. Patrick tried to feed him with the Steve Kerr shot comment and Pip kinda missed it. Pippen is well aware though that he is giving hot takes and he is using this media tour for his book to it's fullest.
The Kwame/Pippen podcast has to happen soon
I don't think Pippen knows what he is doing.
The stuff he's digging up isn't interesting to most people. His primary fan base doesn't want to hear / doesn't believe this and thinks far worse of him for it. In the end, he was pretty lousy as a talking head. He's painful to listen to, so maybe this is just his last ditch effort wreaking of desperation, but I don't see how he meaningfully capitalizes on this.
Odds are, he was getting paid way more to be a Bulls figurehead with no responsibilities than anything he's going to do now going down this path.
It raises questions in Bulls fans minds whereas there don’t need to be. Maybe he doesn’t care, and he doesn’t have to care. But like Lawrence Holmes asked today searching for answers (a huge Pip fan), ‘Maybe Scottie is just a jerk’ (No Tippin’ Pippen)
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Is this what happens when you hit mid-life crisis?
Why so serious?
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And I thought me buying a convertible was bad...kulaz3000 wrote:Is this what happens when you hit mid-life crisis?
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kulaz3000 wrote:Is this what happens when you hit mid-life crisis?

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I’m not surprised at all by this.
Because it’s become mainstream to cry racism to blame others for your situation.
The comments were utterly moronic and indefensible.
Because it’s become mainstream to cry racism to blame others for your situation.
The comments were utterly moronic and indefensible.
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Some things I agree with pippen on, some things I don't. The criticism for Phil is fair. Phil was out of line for attempting to expose kobe to sell a book. Phil also made some distasteful comments about lebron and his posse once. Racism comes in a lot of ways besides blatant. And their is a sense of sabotaging when pippen is on his mvp campaign and kukoc a 1st year player is getting that look.
I think pip is nuts on his takes with durant and comparisons of lebron and jordan but he is entitled to his opinion.
At the same time pippen has a tough time looking himself in the mirror. He was soft early on. He doesn't take account of the "hit Scottie hard take him out the game" game plan teams especially new York Detroit and Indiana had on pippen. When we were losing to the Pistons nobody was walking away saying jordan is failing us we were all disappointed in pippen. Not once did jordan talk of trading pippen in fact jordan was loyal to Phil and Scottie til his end. Scottie looks selfish right now as it pertains to jordan.
Then pippen is a big crybaby for years about being underpaid and the bulls franchise allowed the sentiment to stay out there that pippen was underpaid and got screwed on his contract. But pippen was told by reinsdorf not to sign the deal in pippen did it anyway. Pippen never discloses this and in fact even when he returned to the bulls walks into the bulls locker room among Jalen rose Tyson Chandler eddy curry etc and tells them he not doing sh*t and the franchise owes him etc. Pippen let basically a lie float and he mad at the documentary because it exposed how he signed that bad deal after being advised not to, and how he pretty much quit on the bulls in 98 by enjoying his summer them getting surgery. He was a no show for the playoffs.
It's sad how this is turning out for pippen he going shock jock lane to get products sold. He keeps going the public Is going to put him into a reality check.
I think pip is nuts on his takes with durant and comparisons of lebron and jordan but he is entitled to his opinion.
At the same time pippen has a tough time looking himself in the mirror. He was soft early on. He doesn't take account of the "hit Scottie hard take him out the game" game plan teams especially new York Detroit and Indiana had on pippen. When we were losing to the Pistons nobody was walking away saying jordan is failing us we were all disappointed in pippen. Not once did jordan talk of trading pippen in fact jordan was loyal to Phil and Scottie til his end. Scottie looks selfish right now as it pertains to jordan.
Then pippen is a big crybaby for years about being underpaid and the bulls franchise allowed the sentiment to stay out there that pippen was underpaid and got screwed on his contract. But pippen was told by reinsdorf not to sign the deal in pippen did it anyway. Pippen never discloses this and in fact even when he returned to the bulls walks into the bulls locker room among Jalen rose Tyson Chandler eddy curry etc and tells them he not doing sh*t and the franchise owes him etc. Pippen let basically a lie float and he mad at the documentary because it exposed how he signed that bad deal after being advised not to, and how he pretty much quit on the bulls in 98 by enjoying his summer them getting surgery. He was a no show for the playoffs.
It's sad how this is turning out for pippen he going shock jock lane to get products sold. He keeps going the public Is going to put him into a reality check.
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There could be some bit of racism that went on. But you can't imply the shot being given to Kukoc has anything to do with that. Two different things. I did take some truth from that interview with Patrick and left everything else with a grain of salt. The talking into the cameras bit made sense. Who really drew up the Steve Kerr play? How did that really naturally come about? We saw ghe conversation on camera and sure it could've been rehearsed. What's the real story then though? I don't know how much Scottie will be willing to disclose and until then we have to go with what we know.










