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BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option)

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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#201 » by Knick4Real » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:51 pm

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Read on Twitter

all contracts (burks, noel, fournier) are now better than first reported. overall good offseason now!
Taj contract still very dubios tho.


FACTS!!

See, this is why all the overreacting to Twitter rumors at the start of free agency was unnecessary. Once the smoke cleared, everything made sense and worked out for the best. Some posters had massive heart attacks over hearsay. :D
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#202 » by seren » Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:35 pm

We have the most team friendly contracts in the entire league. Team options, unlikely bonuses etc. It is great. I give A+ free agency to FO.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#203 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:52 pm

seren wrote:We have the most team friendly contracts in the entire league. Team options, unlikely bonuses etc. It is great. I give A+ free agency to FO.

But almost everybody on this board has PTSD from years of bad deals, so there were a lot of bad reactions at first. It's forgivable, and maybe we'll even develop some confidence in this FO if things go well.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#204 » by Capn'O » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:05 pm

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I don't know that this FO Is exceptional but they are at worst solid. It'll be nice to take the foot off the shoulda/coulda gas for awhile and watch some decent to good Knicks basketball.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#205 » by FreeSpiritNY » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:05 pm

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Oscirus wrote:
FreeSpiritNY wrote:
You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.

2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18


Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

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just keep on digging your hole deeper.


Thanks for the assist.

It’s amazing how the same people conplain about have 0 assets and then we finally are building for the future with a ton of assets they complain more.

It’s also hilarious that how someone said that 2nd rounder have proven nothing.

How about a nba record for field goal % MITCHEL ROBINSON.

Most blocks per game a few years ago per 36.

Let’s talk about quickley oh didn’t he break a few records last year as well?

Didn’t David Lee get picked in the first round but number 30 and with all the 2nd rounders we got we could move up a few slots. The Knicks notoriously have been know to pick up lower draft picks and do better. Starks etc.

Like he said stop hating your own team and self sabotaging there are 29 other teams in the league.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#206 » by rajajackal » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:05 pm

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seren wrote:We have the most team friendly contracts in the entire league. Team options, unlikely bonuses etc. It is great. I give A+ free agency to FO.

But almost everybody on this board has PTSD from years of bad deals, so there were a lot of bad reactions at first. It's forgivable, and maybe we'll even develop some confidence in this FO if things go well.


wasn't a huge fan of the deal. know it's an upgrade, simply don't like fournier much. but his olympic performance got me more intrigued and now that i know he has a tradable contract + a positive rapport with kemba, i'm excited about the move. if mitch is healthy, randle's still good, and rj is improved, we're in for a treat this year
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#207 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:30 pm

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omerome wrote:Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with
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STFU and GTFO.

Instead. :P


Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.


You're over-reacting. He put a smiley face and is keeping it light. Let them get off some steam, dont be a wus.
(Smiley face).


thanks for the feedback.

i can see there's banter. maybe i misread some of the tone. looked a little personal and depricating at times. i agree it wasn't much, hence no warnings. not even blue font. wanted to make sure it didn't turn.

does that work for you?
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Post#208 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:00 pm

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Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.


You're over-reacting. He put a smiley face and is keeping it light. Let them get off some steam, dont be a wus.
(Smiley face).


thanks for the feedback.

i can see there's banter. maybe i misread some of the tone. looked a little personal and depricating at times. i agree it wasn't much, hence no warnings. not even blue font. wanted to make sure it didn't turn.

does that work for you?

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Post#209 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:02 pm

It was Steve Kerr and the GM's fault. Honest, officer!
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Post#210 » by moocow007 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:03 pm

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seren wrote:We have the most team friendly contracts in the entire league. Team options, unlikely bonuses etc. It is great. I give A+ free agency to FO.

But almost everybody on this board has PTSD from years of bad deals, so there were a lot of bad reactions at first. It's forgivable, and maybe we'll even develop some confidence in this FO if things go well.


wasn't a huge fan of the deal. know it's an upgrade, simply don't like fournier much. but his olympic performance got me more intrigued and now that i know he has a tradable contract + a positive rapport with kemba, i'm excited about the move. if mitch is healthy, randle's still good, and rj is improved, we're in for a treat this year


But Fournier didn't really show anything in the Olympics basketball wise that he hadn't already been able to do and been doing. He's much more than just a shooter and for some reason I think way too many people seem to have this image in their head is that he's mostly just a shooter. He's really not. If you read scouts and front offices the overall take is that he's got an extremely extremely high understanding of the game, he's very competitive, that he has the ability to run an offense and that he can create shots for himself (not just shooting from 3) and for his teammates.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#211 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:06 pm

moocow007 wrote:
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BKlutch wrote:But almost everybody on this board has PTSD from years of bad deals, so there were a lot of bad reactions at first. It's forgivable, and maybe we'll even develop some confidence in this FO if things go well.


wasn't a huge fan of the deal. know it's an upgrade, simply don't like fournier much. but his olympic performance got me more intrigued and now that i know he has a tradable contract + a positive rapport with kemba, i'm excited about the move. if mitch is healthy, randle's still good, and rj is improved, we're in for a treat this year


But Fournier didn't really show anything in the Olympics basketball wise that he hadn't already been able to do and been doing. He's much more than just a shooter and for some reason I think way too many people seem to have this image in their head is that he's mostly just a shooter. He's really not. If you read scouts and front offices the overall take is that he's got an extremely extremely high understanding of the game, that he has the ability to run an offense and that he can create shots for himself (not just shooting from 3) and for his teammates.

Annnnd..... he seems to fully buy in to Thibs' system and playing alongside Kemba. He seems fairly bright when he speaks (or am I just overly impressed by his French accent?).
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#212 » by Gravy » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:09 pm

Looks like he will be on KFTV today

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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#213 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:37 pm

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Read on Twitter

all contracts (burks, noel, fournier) are now better than first reported. overall good offseason now!
Taj contract still very dubios tho.


FACTS!!

See, this is why all the overreacting to Twitter rumors at the start of free agency was unnecessary. Once the smoke cleared, everything made sense and worked out for the best. Some posters had massive heart attacks over hearsay. :D


you really have to wait until things go official with the knicks.

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Post#214 » by Fat Kat » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:40 pm

Gravy wrote:Looks like he will be on KFTV today



Good stuff. Anything that makes ESPN less relevant is fine by me. For the fans, by the fans.
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Post#215 » by Marty McFly » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:25 am

Capn'O wrote:Big Brock bAller

I don't know that this FO Is exceptional but they are at worst solid. It'll be nice to take the foot off the shoulda/coulda gas for awhile and watch some decent to good Knicks basketball.


yeah, I'm always in line to take a dump on an FO, but they might be the best FO we've had since what? Ernie grunfeld? which isn't saying a lot but.
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Post#216 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:18 am

I'm kinda surprised Boston didn't match the contract now that the details are out. Were they really trying to cheap out? If Josh Richardson was struggling playing off of Luka, how much are they going to expect him to produce playing off Tatum and Jaylen?
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Post#217 » by Juggynaut » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:29 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm kinda surprised Boston didn't match the contract now that the details are out. Were they really trying to cheap out? If Josh Richardson was struggling playing off of Luka, how much are they going to expect him to produce playing off Tatum and Jaylen?


Evan Fournier wasn't a restricted free agent. Maybe he doesn't want to be in Boston and actually wanted to go the Knicks. It's not that crazy of a thought.
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Post#218 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:45 am

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KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm kinda surprised Boston didn't match the contract now that the details are out. Were they really trying to cheap out? If Josh Richardson was struggling playing off of Luka, how much are they going to expect him to produce playing off Tatum and Jaylen?


Evan Fournier wasn't a restricted free agent. Maybe he doesn't want to be in Boston and actually wanted to go the Knicks. It's not that crazy of a thought.


Maybe he actually liked Boston before we swooped in to get him, but Boston lowballed him. It’s not that crazy of a thought.

“ "That was my priority going into the summer," he said of re-signing with Boston, per Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe. "Because I knew the place. I talked to Brad (Stevens) and we couldn’t get a deal done, obviously. But I had my options. It wasn’t necessarily Boston only but I was more inclined to sign there because they traded for me and I felt good while I was there.”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/03/sports/evan-fournier-preferred-re-sign-with-celtics-we-couldnt-get-deal-done-so-he-chose-knicks/
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#219 » by DrCoach » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:20 am

Fournier is younger and taller than Atlantas Boggy
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Post#220 » by Juggynaut » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:26 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Juggynaut wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm kinda surprised Boston didn't match the contract now that the details are out. Were they really trying to cheap out? If Josh Richardson was struggling playing off of Luka, how much are they going to expect him to produce playing off Tatum and Jaylen?


Evan Fournier wasn't a restricted free agent. Maybe he doesn't want to be in Boston and actually wanted to go the Knicks. It's not that crazy of a thought.


Maybe he actually liked Boston before we swooped in to get him, but Boston lowballed him. It’s not that crazy of a thought.

“ "That was my priority going into the summer," he said of re-signing with Boston, per Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe. "Because I knew the place. I talked to Brad (Stevens) and we couldn’t get a deal done, obviously. But I had my options. It wasn’t necessarily Boston only but I was more inclined to sign there because they traded for me and I felt good while I was there.”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/03/sports/evan-fournier-preferred-re-sign-with-celtics-we-couldnt-get-deal-done-so-he-chose-knicks/


Dam u got me :lol:

I guess Boston didn't want Evan back then. They probably want to chase the dream of adding Bradley Beal or some ****.
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