GTS: 2023-2024

[red4hf]

Sixers by 12, no.......

[JazzguyWA]

Jazz by 8 no

[Inigo Montoya]

Managed to change my guess before tipoff, apparently Embiid isn't playing.

[TNJazz]

Managed to change my guess before tipoff, apparently Embiid isn't playing.

Thanks for adding this when guesses are edited.

I'm going to request from all participants that if a guess is edited, please also indicate in separate post so a time stamp is made, as Inigo did here. I want to be sure to catch it. I also edited my guess, but went the wrong way. I didn't catch that Embiid was scratched.

[FJS]

To be fair last hour changes should invalidate questions. Some people answer days before, anda other like me are in bed when games begin and it's not fair.
Other sughestion it's not make question about one player or another since it's not sure if anyone is healthy.


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[red4hf]

To be fair last hour changes should invalidate questions. Some people answer days before, anda other like me are in bed when games begin and it's not fair.
Other sughestion it's not make question about one player or another since it's not sure if anyone is healthy.


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I agree....... WE NEED TO COME UP EWITH SOMETHING TO MAKE IT MORE FAIR TO THOSE WHO GUESS AHEAD OF TIME...... I don't know why that's all caps.....

[Inigo Montoya]

My take is that:

1. We operate on the honor system. I don't think posting an additional time that you changed your guess should be required - just show that you did it by crossing off the old guess and add the new guess. In the past, any time I changed my guesses I didn't notify anyone--I always just kept the original guess, showing it was changed with a line crossed over it, and that's it. I'm still doing that, I just started reporting it also in a separate post, Don't even know why. In hindsight, it may have actually caused my new guesses to be missed but this shouldn't be an issue if all your guesses are in one post.

2. Changing guesses, as far as I know, is allowed up until tip-off. As the rules stipulated by Jazz Dog: "Just for clarification: If I asked a question on a player and that player does not play in the game, all entires for the game earn the five points." So changing the guess just to adjust the bonus question in cases a certain player isn't playing is unnecessary - there's no benefit from doing so. The only influence is on the game score because if certain players don't play (like Embiid) it can change the outcome from a W to an L, but that's on the participants of the game to adjust their guesses accordingly.

3. Guessing ahead of time is more convenient but it's up to every player to change their guess if they see fit to do it. The system is very fair--change your guesses as much as you want up until tipoff. It's up to you. Not sure what can be done about that unless we agree on a cutoff date for guesses, which seems unreasonable.

[FJS]

My take is that:

2. Changing guesses, as far as I know, is allowed up until tip-off. As the rules stipulated by Jazz Dog: "Just for clarification: If I asked a question on a player and that player does not play in the game, all entires for the game earn the five points." So changing the guess just to adjust the bonus question in cases a certain player isn't playing is unnecessary - there's no benefit from doing so. The only influence is on the game score because if certain players don't play (like Embiid) it can change the outcome from a W to an L, but that's on the participants of the game to adjust their guesses accordingly.

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Okay, this is invalidate my point.

Thank Iñigo to clarify that.

So, if the ones who are doing the recount take this consideration, there's any problem.

[FJS]

January 8 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Bonus: Who scores more, Sexton or Lillard? (additional 5 points to anyone who correctly calls a tie)

Jazz by 4. Sexton since Lillard is not going to play.

[red4hf]

Bucks by 9, Sexton......

[JazzguyWA]

Bucks by 6 Sexton

[TNJazz]

My take is that:

2. Changing guesses, as far as I know, is allowed up until tip-off. As the rules stipulated by Jazz Dog: "Just for clarification: If I asked a question on a player and that player does not play in the game, all entires for the game earn the five points." So changing the guess just to adjust the bonus question in cases a certain player isn't playing is unnecessary - there's no benefit from doing so. The only influence is on the game score because if certain players don't play (like Embiid) it can change the outcome from a W to an L, but that's on the participants of the game to adjust their guesses accordingly.

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Okay, this is invalidate my point.

Thank Iñigo to clarify that.

So, if the ones who are doing the recount take this consideration, there's any problem.

Since I have taken her the role of keeping track of the guesses and score, I want to be sure I am doing it correctly. I want be sure am following the spirit of the competition. I will use this past game to help me clarify the bonus part. The bonus questions was "Better stats, Sexton or Lillard?" Lillard didn't play, making Sexton the winner. According to the bold print above, every guess should get the 5 points regardless of which name was listed. Is this correct? If so, I will need to go back and possibly edit results for a couple games since assuming this role to make sure I have scored everyone correctly. Happy to do so.

I am super happy to remain on the honor system for guesses, I was simply asking for a repost to help me make sure I catch an edit. Regardless, I refer to the original post for the multi-list guessers and, to my knowledge, I have seen all strike throughs and edits. I made this request this after I made an edit, which showed up as a quoted repost and showed the time stamp. That game also coincided with an Inigo edit where he commented on his changed guess hoping it didn't jinx the outcome, or something similar to that. It clearly showed that his edited guess occurred prior to tipoff.

I personally like the idea of giving everyone bonus question credit if a player doesn't play (Ex. Imbiid scoring 31+, Lillard not playing). This seems more fair for FJS (and actually for me as well) since there are times these decisions are made relatively close to tip off and I record games because of my work and FJS is sleeping due to time difference, thus not having the ability to change that part of the guess.

For the Milwaukee game, I gave everyone the 5 points for the bonus Sexton Lillard question.

[TNJazz]

I went back to look at all games since the Portland game on December 2. The only games where potential change could have occurred were:
Cleveland, Donovan Mitchell Double/Double = no change - all submitted guesses were no and had received credit for correct guess.
Sixers, Embiid 31+ didn't play = TN & Jazz Dog +5 (everyone now receives credit)
Bucks, Lillard didn't play = Everyone got credit.

[FJS]

I went back to look at all games since the Portland game on December 2. The only games where potential change could have occurred were:
Cleveland, Donovan Mitchell Double/Double = no change - all submitted guesses were no and had received credit for correct guess.
Sixers, Embiid 31+ didn't play = TN & Jazz Dog +5 (everyone now receives credit)
Bucks, Lillard didn't play = Everyone got credit.

Yes, you are right.

Thank you.

[Inigo Montoya]

Since I have taken her the role of keeping track of the guesses and score, I want to be sure I am doing it correctly. I want be sure am following the spirit of the competition. I will use this past game to help me clarify the bonus part. The bonus questions was "Better stats, Sexton or Lillard?" Lillard didn't play, making Sexton the winner. According to the bold print above, every guess should get the 5 points regardless of which name was listed. Is this correct? If so, I will need to go back and possibly edit results for a couple games since assuming this role to make sure I have scored everyone correctly. Happy to do so.

Yes, to my understanding that is correct.

I personally like the idea of giving everyone bonus question credit if a player doesn't play (Ex. Imbiid scoring 31+, Lillard not playing). This seems more fair for FJS (and actually for me as well) since there are times these decisions are made relatively close to tip off and I record games because of my work and FJS is sleeping due to time difference, thus not having the ability to change that part of the guess.

It appears that our beloved commissioner thought of everything. I have no problem with this.

Thank you, TNJazz, we appreciate all your efforts.

[Jazz Dog]

TNJazz as you are calculating guesses, just for clarification. Since we are asking for games in advance, the way I calculate bonus points is, if we are asking for individual stats and that person does not play then everyone who participated in that game gets the five points. If for some reason you did not have any guess for the game, then you would not get rewarded for those points.

We need to do it this way so those who go online less often aren't at a disadvantage if we try to change the bonus question.

Also, in the last four years of doing this I have not found anyone trying to change their guess mid game. I think we are all above board and no need for time stamps. I have had a couple times where people had guessed right after tip off and they let that fact known. If it is close to tip off, I have included them in that game.

All in all, class guys here. I appreciate the opportunity to hang out with people from all areas of this beautiful world.

[FJS]

January 10 vs Denver Nuggets
Bonus: Will Jokic get a triple-double?

This one is really difficult. My head say Nuggets will win... but i'm going to guess with my hearth.

I say Jazz will win by 5, and Jokic will not get a triple-double.

[JazzguyWA]

Nugs by 9 no

[FJS]

Whoah, I was the only one to bet for the Jazz... and I got the bonus question!

[FJS]

January 12 vs Toronto Raptors
Bonus: Better combined stats: Markkanen+Sexton vs Barrett+Quickley

Jazz by 6, Markkanen & Sexton