Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread

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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#201 » by Marvin Martian » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:22 am

thelead wrote:
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Nets should've learned their lesson by now....do a proper rebuild....Embiid isn't the way to go.


The Nets cannot do a proper rebuild because HOU owns their picks. They need to win right now

How are the Nets on a better timeline than OKC? Shai is an MVP-caliber player RIGHT NOW and is 25.


Who is OKC going to part with to make a trade happen? Chet is a prized rookie, Giddey has improved every year, and Jalen Williams is a stud.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#202 » by monopoman » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:22 am

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:There have been good reasons given why Brooklyn probably isn’t a likely destination for Embiid, but perhaps the biggest is that it would require Embiid and Simmons playing together again. That’s a bad idea on both a personal and a basketball level.


90% chance that Simmons would make a big deal about Embiid joining the team right when it happens.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#203 » by djsunyc » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:23 am

lillard with 11 fts and giannis with 8? yikes.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#204 » by Wolfgang630 » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:24 am

I think OKC is a great trade for Embiid. SGA is basically at MVP level now and they have a billion picks.

What do you guys think about Cleveland trading for Embiid?
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#205 » by thelead » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:25 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
thelead wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
The Nets cannot do a proper rebuild because HOU owns their picks. They need to win right now

How are the Nets on a better timeline than OKC? Shai is an MVP-caliber player RIGHT NOW and is 25.


Who is OKC going to part with to make a trade happen? Chet is a prized rookie, Giddey has improved every year, and Jalen Williams is a stud.


Just take a look a the picks owed to OKC:

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2024 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City; Oklahoma City may convey the 2024 1st round pick to Indiana (see Oklahoma City Outgoing) [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City; Oklahoma City may convey this pick to Indiana (see Oklahoma City Outgoing) [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from Utah
Utah's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-10 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026 (if Utah has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2026, then Utah's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished); Oklahoma City may convey this pick to Indiana (see Oklahoma City Outgoing) [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

2024 second round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2024 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Atlanta-Houston-L.A. Clippers-Memphis-Oklahoma City, 7/8/2023]

2025 first round draft pick from Houston or L.A. Clippers (Oklahoma City outgoing to Houston, L.A. Clippers or Brooklyn)
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2025 1st round pick for Houston's 2025 1st round pick protected for selections 1-10 or the L.A. Clippers' 2025 1st round pick; Houston then has the right to swap its pick or the Oklahoma City pick for Brooklyn's 2025 1st round pick; if the Houston pick falls within its protected range, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished and Houston will instead receive the more favorable of its pick and the Brooklyn pick and Brooklyn will receive the less favorable of the two [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021]

2025 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-14 in 2025 and unprotected in 2026 (via L.A. Clippers) [L.A. Clippers-Miami, 7/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Miami-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Philadelphia
Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-6 in 2025, 1-4 in 2026 and 1-4 in 2027; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2027, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Philadelphia-Oklahoma City, 12/8/2020]

2025 second round draft pick from Atlanta
Atlanta's 2025 2nd round pick to Portland protected for selections 41-59 or to Oklahoma City protected for selections 31-40 (Atlanta's obligation to Portland or Oklahoma City will thereafter be extinguished) [Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 11/24/2020; Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 9/27/2022 (partial removal of protection); Atlanta-Detroit-Golden State-Portland, 2/9/2023]

2025 second round draft pick from Boston or Memphis (more favorable)
Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Boston's 2025 2nd round pick and Memphis' 2025 2nd round pick and Orlando will receive the less favorable of the two (via Memphis to Boston to Orlando) [Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Boston-Orlando, 3/25/2021; Boston-Oklahoma City, 6/18/2021]

2025 second round draft pick from Philadelphia
Philadelphia's 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021]

2026 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2026 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2026 second round draft pick from Dallas or Philadelphia (more favorable, effectively a swap, Oklahoma City outgoing to Houston or San Antonio)
Oklahoma City will receive the most favorable of its 2026 2nd round pick, Dallas' 2026 2nd round pick and Philadelphia's 2026 2nd round pick and Houston will receive the second most favorable and San Antonio will receive the least favorable of the three (via Oklahoma City to Houston; via Oklahoma City to Miami to San Antonio) [Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020; New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021; Miami-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2022; Houston-Oklahoma City, 9/30/2022; Cleveland-Miami-San Antonio, 7/6/2023]

2026 second round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State's 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Golden State, 7/8/2019; Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 7/12/2023]

2027 first round draft pick from Denver
At least two years after Denver conveys a 1st round pick to Orlando or in 2029 if this pick is not conveyed to Orlando, Denver's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2027, 1-5 in 2028 and 1-5 in 2029; if Denver has not conveyed this first-owed 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2029, then Denver will instead convey its 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Denver-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2027 second round draft picks from Houston, Indiana and / or Miami (three most favorable of these and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City outgoing to San Antonio or Miami)
Oklahoma City will receive the three most favorable of its 2027 2nd round pick, Houston's 2027 2nd round pick, Indiana's 2027 2nd round pick and Miami's 2027 2nd round pick; San Antonio will receive the more favorable of (i) its 2027 2nd round pick and (ii) the least favorable of the Oklahoma City pick, the Houston pick, the Indiana pick and the Miami pick and Miami will receive the less favorable of (i) and (ii) (via Houston to Detroit to Oklahoma City; via Miami to Oklahoma City to Utah to San Antonio to Miami) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Detroit-Oklahoma City, 3/13/2021; Indiana-Oklahoma City, 11/25/2020; Miami-Oklahoma City, 3/17/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Portland-San Antonio-Utah, 2/9/2022; Cleveland-Miami-San Antonio, 7/6/2023]

2027 second round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's 2027 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via Houston) [Houston-Minnesota, 6/24/2022; Houston-Oklahoma City, 10/17/2023]

2028 second round draft pick from Milwaukee
Milwaukee's 2028 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via Brooklyn to Houston) [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Houston, 7/6/2023; Houston-Oklahoma City, 10/17/2023]

2028 second round draft pick from Utah
Utah's 2028 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

2029 first round draft pick from Denver
Only if and at least two years after Denver conveys a first-owed 1st round pick to Oklahoma City, Denver's second-owed 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2029 and 1-5 in 2030; if Denver has not conveyed this second-owed 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2030, then Denver will instead convey its 2030 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Denver-Indiana-L.A. Lakers-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2023]

2029 second round draft pick from Atlanta
Atlanta's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 9/27/2022]

2029 second round draft pick from Boston
Boston's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Boston-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2023]

2029 second round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Atlanta-Houston-L.A. Clippers-Memphis-Oklahoma City, 7/8/2023]

2029 second round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Miami-Oklahoma City, 7/6/2023]

2029 second round draft pick from Phoenix
Phoenix's 2029 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Oklahoma City-Phoenix, 2/9/2023]

2030 second round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2030 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Atlanta-Houston-L.A. Clippers-Memphis-Oklahoma City, 7/8/2023]

2030 second round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 2030 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Miami-Oklahoma City, 7/6/2023]


This doesn't account for their own picks too. They can trade plenty and still have a great roster left over.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#206 » by Wolfgang630 » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:26 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
thelead wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
The Nets cannot do a proper rebuild because HOU owns their picks. They need to win right now

How are the Nets on a better timeline than OKC? Shai is an MVP-caliber player RIGHT NOW and is 25.


Who is OKC going to part with to make a trade happen? Chet is a prized rookie, Giddey has improved every year, and Jalen Williams is a stud.


You would trade Chet. It doesn’t matter he’s a prized Rookie when Embiid is sitting there. Chet does have potential and he’s a big. That’s good for Philadelphia.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#207 » by zeebneeb » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:26 am

Game thread, or trade thread?

You decide!
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#208 » by levon » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:26 am

Bucks can't be running a Dame - Beasley backcourt. It's gonna hemorrhage points.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#209 » by djsunyc » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:26 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:I think OKC is a great trade for Embiid. SGA is basically at MVP level now and they have a billion picks.

What do you guys think about Cleveland trading for Embiid?


i have to be honest with you - i don't know if you can win a title with embiid at center - high usage, takes up space, plays iso and poor passer.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#210 » by monopoman » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:26 am

djsunyc wrote:lillard with 11 fts and giannis with 8? yikes.


You might want to see how many FT's Lillard averaged last year he was one of the top guards in the NBA at drawing fouls. He understands exactly how to get the ref to blow the whistle, and he does it without the antics of a Harden trying to draw fouls.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#211 » by Sixteen » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:26 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
thelead wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
The Nets cannot do a proper rebuild because HOU owns their picks. They need to win right now

How are the Nets on a better timeline than OKC? Shai is an MVP-caliber player RIGHT NOW and is 25.


Who is OKC going to part with to make a trade happen? Chet is a prized rookie, Giddey has improved every year, and Jalen Williams is a stud.


That's the point. You're going to have to give up studs if you want a player like Embiid.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#212 » by djsunyc » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:28 am

monopoman wrote:
djsunyc wrote:lillard with 11 fts and giannis with 8? yikes.


You might want to see how many FT's Lillard averaged last year he was one of the top guards in the NBA at drawing fouls. He understands exactly how to get the ref to blow the whistle, and he does it without the antics of a Harden trying to draw fouls.


i wasn't really talking about whether they are legit or not. i'm talking more about viewing experience. really just bogs down the game for me.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#213 » by Sixteen » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:28 am

monopoman wrote:
djsunyc wrote:lillard with 11 fts and giannis with 8? yikes.


You might want to see how many FT's Lillard averaged last year he was one of the top guards in the NBA at drawing fouls. He understands exactly how to get the ref to blow the whistle, and he does it without the antics of a Harden trying to draw fouls.



Just say one is likeable and one isn't.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#214 » by SFour » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:28 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
thelead wrote:How are the Nets on a better timeline than OKC? Shai is an MVP-caliber player RIGHT NOW and is 25.


Who is OKC going to part with to make a trade happen? Chet is a prized rookie, Giddey has improved every year, and Jalen Williams is a stud.


You would trade Chet. It doesn’t matter he’s a prized Rookie when Embiid is sitting there. Chet does have potential and he’s a big. That’s good for Philadelphia.


ya OKC just makes alot more sense than the Nets, they got a bunch of promising young players and picks.....If Sixers are giving up on Embiid then they'd want someone like Chet to start a rebuild.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#215 » by djsunyc » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:29 am

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Marvin Martian wrote:
thelead wrote:How are the Nets on a better timeline than OKC? Shai is an MVP-caliber player RIGHT NOW and is 25.


Who is OKC going to part with to make a trade happen? Chet is a prized rookie, Giddey has improved every year, and Jalen Williams is a stud.


That's the point. You're going to have to give up studs if you want a player like Embiid.


the trade is probably randle, grimes, iq, picks for embiid.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#216 » by monopoman » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:29 am

Phila Tough wrote:
monopoman wrote:
djsunyc wrote:lillard with 11 fts and giannis with 8? yikes.


You might want to see how many FT's Lillard averaged last year he was one of the top guards in the NBA at drawing fouls. He understands exactly how to get the ref to blow the whistle, and he does it without the antics of a Harden trying to draw fouls.



Just say one is likeable and one isn't.


I'm going by some of the ridiculous videos of Harden you can find online of him "drawing fouls". This isn't based on my opinion of Harden I can post a handful of videos to prove a point.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#217 » by djsunyc » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:31 am

1st game of the season. so far 34 mins of the game has been played.

maxey has played 30 of them (and still in the game)
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#218 » by thelead » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:31 am

monopoman wrote:
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monopoman wrote:
You might want to see how many FT's Lillard averaged last year he was one of the top guards in the NBA at drawing fouls. He understands exactly how to get the ref to blow the whistle, and he does it without the antics of a Harden trying to draw fouls.



Just say one is likeable and one isn't.


I'm going by some of the ridiculous videos of Harden you can find online of him "drawing fouls". This isn't based on my opinion of Harden I can post a handful of videos to prove a point.

Yep.

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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#219 » by Wolfgang630 » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:33 am

djsunyc wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:I think OKC is a great trade for Embiid. SGA is basically at MVP level now and they have a billion picks.

What do you guys think about Cleveland trading for Embiid?


i have to be honest with you - i don't know if you can win a title with embiid at center - high usage, takes up space, plays iso and poor passer.


I know we haven’t seen OKC in the playoffs, but I think it can work. I think very highly of SGA and Giddy. SGA to me will have the clutch gene, which Embiid sorely has needed in his career. Embiid will have to know he has to sacrifice if he wants to win.

I do believe Embiid will do what it takes to win with SGA and Giddy.
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Re: Thursday 10/26 NBA Game Thread 

Post#220 » by levon » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:34 am

Why is Beauchamp pressing on Maxey at the logo? Activity for achievement?

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