2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 2-0)

[warriorschamps]

Tatum essentially saying Kidd is trolling by calling Jaylen the best player has to be the worst possible thing he could have said in response lol

It's funny. I was watching the media day interviews on NBA TV this morning and before Tatum spoke the commentators were all excited hyping up how he was going to be asked about Kidd's comments. Then after Tatum spoke they said he gave a great answer and aced it. I agreed.

Now we have people saying the opposite in this thread. Tatum said nothing about trolling but it's just funny how you can make whatever you want out of whatever you want if you just put a little effort into it haha. Can't please everyone, especially if some are set on not being pleased.

People have been doing this since they’ve been in the league. The fact Kidd said it when his whole defensive scheme is set around stopping Tatum makes it even funnier. I guarantee they’re all laughing and joking about it in the locker room. Just look at Al’s response.

If you guys really think Tatum and Brown care when they’ve heard the same story for 6 years, then that’s on you.

Yep. Actions speak louder than words. If he really thought Brown was better he would be given Brown all the defensive attention. But that's not what he is doing. He is given all that defensive attention to Tatum.

Anybody with a brain understand he is just trying to sow dissension. Something work that may have worked on young teams like OKC & Minnesota. It won't work on a veteran group like the Celtics.

[AussieCeltic]

It's funny. I was watching the media day interviews on NBA TV this morning and before Tatum spoke the commentators were all excited hyping up how he was going to be asked about Kidd's comments. Then after Tatum spoke they said he gave a great answer and aced it. I agreed.

Now we have people saying the opposite in this thread. Tatum said nothing about trolling but it's just funny how you can make whatever you want out of whatever you want if you just put a little effort into it haha. Can't please everyone, especially if some are set on not being pleased.

People have been doing this since they’ve been in the league. The fact Kidd said it when his whole defensive scheme is set around stopping Tatum makes it even funnier. I guarantee they’re all laughing and joking about it in the locker room. Just look at Al’s response.

If you guys really think Tatum and Brown care when they’ve heard the same story for 6 years, then that’s on you.

Yep. Actions speak louder than words. If he really thought Brown was better he would be given Brown all the defensive attention. But that's not what he is doing. He is given all that defensive attention to Tatum.

Anybody with a brain understand he is just trying to sow dissension. Something work that may have worked on young teams like OKC & Minnesota. It won't work on a veteran group like the Celtics.

It probably would’ve worked on young Tatum as well. But we’ve seen all year he’s willing to sacrifice his stats for team success. When he needs to turn it on, he will.

It’s kind of why I hate current NBA media. They want someone to always be the star, the #2 to always be the second guy, the third guy falling in line and so on.

Go back to the 86 Celtics, one of the best teams in NBA history.

Bird lead them in scoring a game
McHale lead in scoring a game
Parish lead them in scoring a game
DJ lead them in scoring in game 7

Cedric Maxwell and Gerald Henderson nearly top scored in games.

It was a team collective and no one cared who scored the most points. Larry certainly didn’t give a damn.

I see the same with this team. Whether it’s Tatum, Brown, White, Jrue or KP, they don’t care who scores the most as long as the Celtics win. The only people who care are the media and losers who try diminish success.

[AussieCeltic]

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[ForeverTFC]

The reaction to Kidd's words is a testament to the sensitiveness around the topic in Boston's locker room.

And among the fans lol. This statement wouldn’t be getting this much traction otherwise.

My thoughts exactly.

I don't think Kidd thought he was doing anything sneaky. It's clear as day what he's trying to do. It should be clear to anyone watching this series what he's trying to do. Guy is playing a 2-3 zone when Tatum gets the ball and letting Brown go 1 on 1. We're not idiots lol.

The fact that we have to get think pieces, write ups, and tweets from Celtics writers and fans about what this really is as if we lack any reasoning skill to know exactly what it is says all that it needs to say. What Kidd said touched a nerve.

[AussieCeltic]

The reaction to Kidd's words is a testament to the sensitiveness around the topic in Boston's locker room.

And among the fans lol. This statement wouldn’t be getting this much traction otherwise.

My thoughts exactly.

I don't think Kidd thought he was doing anything sneaky. It's clear as day what he's trying to do. It should be clear to anyone watching this series what he's trying to do. Guy is playing a 2-3 zone when Tatum gets the ball and letting Brown go 1 on 1. We're not idiots lol.

The fact that we have to get think pieces, write ups, and tweets from Celtics writers and fans about what this really is as if we lack any reasoning skill to know exactly what it is says all that it needs to say. What Kidd said touched a nerve.

Kidd says a lie.

Celtics fans call it a lie.

You guys. “Lulz Kidd touched a nerve”.

[sam_I_am]

Carrying over some observations from Game 1...

Mavs with only 9 assists. Luka with 1 assist and only 6 potential assists.

Mavs with only 3 attempts and 1 make on corner 3's.

Mavs with zero lob dunks.

Celtics took away basically everything Dallas wanted to do. How do the Mavs adjust?

I don't see any path to victory for the Mavs that isn't just insane shooting and barrage scoring from Doncic and Irving. Where Boston can get into trouble is if they panic and start leaving role guys open to collapse on Irving/Doncic and the role guys start contributing double-digit points.

It's one thing if Doncic gets 30-40, but has under 5 assists; it's another if he gets 30-40 and has 10+ assists. You can't let him get both.

FWIW, the last time Doncic had 37 pts and 11 assists the Celtics won 138-110. Doncic is going to get his shots and assists and I don’t think they can realistically stop him.

However, for Dallas to win, their defense has to make it a 110-105 type of game. The Celtics advantage in scoring ability after top 2 stars is too great for Dallas to survive a track meet.

In game 1, the Celtics stole Dallas’identity from them allowing no lobs and no corner 3s. Their bigs and their corner shooters have to show up. If the Celtics ability to stop that part of their game continues, this series will be very short. Dallas had 57 more lobs than next 4 teams combined in these playoffs…..so they have to get that part of their game going and chances are that they will do better than they did in game 1.

[ForeverTFC]

And among the fans lol. This statement wouldn’t be getting this much traction otherwise.

My thoughts exactly.

I don't think Kidd thought he was doing anything sneaky. It's clear as day what he's trying to do. It should be clear to anyone watching this series what he's trying to do. Guy is playing a 2-3 zone when Tatum gets the ball and letting Brown go 1 on 1. We're not idiots lol.

The fact that we have to get think pieces, write ups, and tweets from Celtics writers and fans about what this really is as if we lack any reasoning skill to know exactly what it is says all that it needs to say. What Kidd said touched a nerve.

Kidd says a lie.

Celtics fans call it a lie.

You guys. “Lulz Kidd touched a nerve”.

Why do you need to call out the lie?

If Mazzulla had said Kyrie is the best Mav, Luka would say "he's right", Kyrie would say "Luka is our best player" and Mavs fans would laugh it off.

Meanwhile, Celtics fans need us all to know that Kidd is "lying" (trust us, we know what he's doing; we're not idiots), Brown has to talk about Tatum's sacrifice, and Tatum can't bring himself to say "yeah, Brown is the best, he's right". That says everything it needs to.

[The Corey's]

And among the fans lol. This statement wouldn’t be getting this much traction otherwise.

My thoughts exactly.

I don't think Kidd thought he was doing anything sneaky. It's clear as day what he's trying to do. It should be clear to anyone watching this series what he's trying to do. Guy is playing a 2-3 zone when Tatum gets the ball and letting Brown go 1 on 1. We're not idiots lol.

The fact that we have to get think pieces, write ups, and tweets from Celtics writers and fans about what this really is as if we lack any reasoning skill to know exactly what it is says all that it needs to say. What Kidd said touched a nerve.

Kidd says a lie.

Celtics fans call it a lie.

You guys. “Lulz Kidd touched a nerve”.

Kidd is a unsavory and disgusting human being. Need only a Google search to see what kind of disgusting things this man has done.

I wouldn't be going to bat for him if I was these people.

He's always been scared of Boston.

[RB34]

Y'all really think that Kidd comment was some mental game to break the Celtics locker room chemistry?

Nah bro that's a real basketball OG who knows the game is played on both sides of the ball.

Jaylen Brown has been the Celtics best player this year. Just watch the games bro. Stop letting the flashy step back 3 by Tatum fool y'all.

The Celtics go as far as Brown will take them. Tatum plays for regular season. Brown plays for the postseason. Even their mentality is totally different after games.

Tatum was nervous. These are his words.

Brown was saying we won but they haven't accomplished nothing after game 1.

Cmon bro lets keep it real. Brown is that dude!

Have you just started watching the Celtics this year?

[AussieCeltic]

My thoughts exactly.

I don't think Kidd thought he was doing anything sneaky. It's clear as day what he's trying to do. It should be clear to anyone watching this series what he's trying to do. Guy is playing a 2-3 zone when Tatum gets the ball and letting Brown go 1 on 1. We're not idiots lol.

The fact that we have to get think pieces, write ups, and tweets from Celtics writers and fans about what this really is as if we lack any reasoning skill to know exactly what it is says all that it needs to say. What Kidd said touched a nerve.

Kidd says a lie.

Celtics fans call it a lie.

You guys. “Lulz Kidd touched a nerve”.

Why do you need to call out the lie?

If Mazzulla had said Kyrie is the best Mav, Luka would say "he's right", Kyrie would say "Luka is our best player" and Mavs fans would laugh it off.

Meanwhile, Celtics fans need us all to know that Kidd is "lying" (trust us, we know what he's doing; we're not idiots), Brown has to talk about Tatum's sacrifice, and Tatum can't bring himself to say "yeah, Brown is the best, he's right". That says everything it needs to.

Because it’s not the narrative on here man. We have had multiple threads saying Brown is better than Tatum. We constantly have these battles.

If Brown was the better player, Celtics fans would have no issue saying so. It’s the fact these types of comments have come up their whole career.

I doubt if Joe called Kyrie the best player that Luka would say he’s right. Plus I’m sure everyone here and in the media would have an opinion on it and would rightfully call him out which is all Celtic fans are doing.

[jigga_man]

It's funny. I was watching the media day interviews on NBA TV this morning and before Tatum spoke the commentators were all excited hyping up how he was going to be asked about Kidd's comments. Then after Tatum spoke they said he gave a great answer and aced it. I agreed.

Now we have people saying the opposite in this thread. Tatum said nothing about trolling but it's just funny how you can make whatever you want out of whatever you want if you just put a little effort into it haha. Can't please everyone, especially if some are set on not being pleased.

People have been doing this since they’ve been in the league. The fact Kidd said it when his whole defensive scheme is set around stopping Tatum makes it even funnier. I guarantee they’re all laughing and joking about it in the locker room. Just look at Al’s response.

If you guys really think Tatum and Brown care when they’ve heard the same story for 6 years, then that’s on you.

Yep. Actions speak louder than words. If he really thought Brown was better he would be given Brown all the defensive attention. But that's not what he is doing. He is given all that defensive attention to Tatum.

Anybody with a brain understand he is just trying to sow dissension. Something work that may have worked on young teams like OKC & Minnesota. It won't work on a veteran group like the Celtics.

Kidd said Jaylen is their best player, not their best offensive player. He immediately started praising his defense and playing both sides of the ball.

Celtics were comfortably the best regular season team and well ahead of anyone in the West in the standings yet Tatum wasn't in any serious conversation for MVP. That's largely due to Brown.

They're closer to being 1A & 1B than 1 & 2.

[Patches Perry]

Kidd's comments remind me of the time he told his player to run into him so he could intentionally spill his drink and get a free timeout.

It wouldn’t be a bad tactic if it wasn't so embarrassingly transparent lol.

[AussieCeltic]

People have been doing this since they’ve been in the league. The fact Kidd said it when his whole defensive scheme is set around stopping Tatum makes it even funnier. I guarantee they’re all laughing and joking about it in the locker room. Just look at Al’s response.

If you guys really think Tatum and Brown care when they’ve heard the same story for 6 years, then that’s on you.

Yep. Actions speak louder than words. If he really thought Brown was better he would be given Brown all the defensive attention. But that's not what he is doing. He is given all that defensive attention to Tatum.

Anybody with a brain understand he is just trying to sow dissension. Something work that may have worked on young teams like OKC & Minnesota. It won't work on a veteran group like the Celtics.

Kidd said Jaylen is their best player, not their best offensive player. He immediately started praising his defense and playing both sides of the ball.

Celtics were comfortably the best regular season team and well ahead of anyone in the West in the standings yet Tatum wasn't in any serious conversation for MVP. That's largely due to Brown.

They're closer to being 1A & 1B than 1 & 2.

Yet Tatum was ALL NBA first team and Brown didn’t even make a team.

Call them 1A and 1B or 1 & 2, no one really cares. But as a Celtic fan, I’ve watched every single team in the league put their best defender on Tatum and plan their entire defensive scheme around Tatum.

We also see Tatum just flat out has better numbers than Brown across the board. They’re certainly close in talent where Jaylen can have better games or series due to matchups, but it’s still clear who the better player is.

[jigga_man]

Yep. Actions speak louder than words. If he really thought Brown was better he would be given Brown all the defensive attention. But that's not what he is doing. He is given all that defensive attention to Tatum.

Anybody with a brain understand he is just trying to sow dissension. Something work that may have worked on young teams like OKC & Minnesota. It won't work on a veteran group like the Celtics.

Kidd said Jaylen is their best player, not their best offensive player. He immediately started praising his defense and playing both sides of the ball.

Celtics were comfortably the best regular season team and well ahead of anyone in the West in the standings yet Tatum wasn't in any serious conversation for MVP. That's largely due to Brown.

They're closer to being 1A & 1B than 1 & 2.

Yet Tatum was ALL NBA first team and Brown didn’t even make a team

Jaylen made all NBA last year and was promptly was given the largest contract in NBA history.

Call them 1A and 1B or 1 & 2, no one really cares.

When it comes to debating who the best player is on a team, it does. Nobody will ever debate who's the best player on the Mavs. There's a clear #1 and #2

[AussieCeltic]

Kidd said Jaylen is their best player, not their best offensive player. He immediately started praising his defense and playing both sides of the ball.

Celtics were comfortably the best regular season team and well ahead of anyone in the West in the standings yet Tatum wasn't in any serious conversation for MVP. That's largely due to Brown.

They're closer to being 1A & 1B than 1 & 2.

Yet Tatum was ALL NBA first team and Brown didn’t even make a team

Jaylen made all NBA last year and was promptly was given the largest contract in NBA history.

Call them 1A and 1B or 1 & 2, no one really cares.

When it comes to debating who the best player is on a team, it does. Nobody will ever debate who's the best player on the Mavs. There's a clear #1 and #2

If you don’t think there is a clear 1 and 2 here, that says more about you as a basketball observer than anything else.

As I said, Tatum gets the other teams best defender. Tatum gets the defensive schemes against him. Tatum has the better stats across the board.

Casuals “lulz Jaylen Brown is better because he’s got that dawg in him”

[LaLover11]

If Celtics lose series

Brown & Tatum will having a falling out

[KamikazeK]

If Celtics lose series

Brown & Tatum will having a falling out

Is that the dream you had last night, or did you forget to take your meds today?

[LaLover11]

If Celtics lose series

Brown & Tatum will having a falling out

Is that the dream you had last night, or did you forget to take your meds today?

It's becoming a big topic!
Media did the same to break up LeBron & Kyrie.

They plant the seed it and usually will grow a lot faster when the team loses.

[MavsDirk41]

Mavs gotta show up ready to defend the 3 point line tomorrow. Irving has to obviously play better too, which shouldnt be hard.

[Doranku]

Mavs gotta show up ready to defend the 3 point line tomorrow. Irving has to obviously play better too, which shouldnt be hard.

Yeah, Celtics did a good job on Kyrie and forced him into some tough shots, but he also missed at least 3 WIDE open threes that were backbreaking for the Mavs. He's gotta be better.