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Cam Thomas sucks. 
If they gave up the 31 first for him I'd actually barf.
I'd give it up for Herb Jones though.
            
                                    
                                    If they gave up the 31 first for him I'd actually barf.
I'd give it up for Herb Jones though.
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Maybe all the buzz about Cam is just a favour to Giannis’ agent after all. My guess is that there is low to none market for him and Saratsis is just working with Horst to create some interest. It’s the most likely scenario since Thomas simply isn’t what we are missing and there are no assets to spare for such a luxury.
            
                                    
                                    
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What's baffling:
1) The adoration for Ayo Dosumnu. I don't think he's very good. I don't think he's a good defender and his offense sucks. And he's listed as 6'5", which is a joke. I think he's 6'2".
2) Can Thomas? No way.
3) The biggest need is a versatile big defender who can switch one thru 5. The other "needs" pale in comparison. Sure, you'd always want a quick guard or more shooting, but that's a luxury right now. Everything depends on a healthy Middleton.
            
                                    
                                    
                        1) The adoration for Ayo Dosumnu. I don't think he's very good. I don't think he's a good defender and his offense sucks. And he's listed as 6'5", which is a joke. I think he's 6'2".
2) Can Thomas? No way.
3) The biggest need is a versatile big defender who can switch one thru 5. The other "needs" pale in comparison. Sure, you'd always want a quick guard or more shooting, but that's a luxury right now. Everything depends on a healthy Middleton.
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Plossum wrote:Bobby for Donte straight up works.
I love this board. I am definitely 100% here for the buy-low on Donte takes. I watched him go 1 - 10 against Portland the other day lmao... we need BBIQ not someone dumb enough to keep chucking until they are 1 - 10 and coach finally sits you the rest of the night. We need draw and kicks/swing the ball dudes..imagine Donte firing up yolos while Dame and Giannis roll their eyes. We already have Donte except he's a 7'0 version and people can rarely get good paint looks when he's in.
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paulpressey25 wrote:Cam Thomas has a bad hamstring. Out 3-4 weeks.
I just don’t see the fit with that guy here. Unless he comes back this way as part of a bigger Dame deal.
Dame deal lmao... love this board
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Not giving up 31 for Cam Thomas. Would consider it for Herb Jones.
            
                                    
                                    
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DFS is playing much better this year but he is not a great Portis replacement. He can score but he is not a bucket getter. The bucks would need another scorer and back up  4/5.
If Horst would have got Yabusele over the summer the roster would've been in a much better place.
            
                                    
                                    
                        If Horst would have got Yabusele over the summer the roster would've been in a much better place.
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-Jragon- wrote:Plossum wrote:Bobby for Donte straight up works.
I love this board. I am definitely 100% here for the buy-low on Donte takes. I watched him go 1 - 10 against Portland the other day lmao... we need BBIQ not someone dumb enough to keep chucking until they are 1 - 10 and coach finally sits you the rest of the night. We need draw and kicks/swing the ball dudes..imagine Donte firing up yolos while Dame and Giannis roll their eyes. We already have Donte except he's a 7'0 version and people can rarely get good paint looks when he's in.
Over the past 4 years, Donte has shot 39% from 3, Dame has shot 35% from 3.
What's really impressive about Donte is that he shoots this well while also playing defense.
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humanrefutation wrote:Not giving up 31 for Cam Thomas. Would consider it for Herb Jones.
The Pelicans will need 2- 1sts to deal Herb.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:-Jragon- wrote:Plossum wrote:Bobby for Donte straight up works.
I love this board. I am definitely 100% here for the buy-low on Donte takes. I watched him go 1 - 10 against Portland the other day lmao... we need BBIQ not someone dumb enough to keep chucking until they are 1 - 10 and coach finally sits you the rest of the night. We need draw and kicks/swing the ball dudes..imagine Donte firing up yolos while Dame and Giannis roll their eyes. We already have Donte except he's a 7'0 version and people can rarely get good paint looks when he's in.
Over the past 4 years, Donte has shot 39% from 3, Dame has shot 35% from 3.
What's really impressive about Donte is that he shoots this well while also playing defense.
Comparing Donte to Dame is criminal or comedy gold. Donte is a fringe rotation player and Dame is HOFer.. comedy on this board doesn't disappoint.
Donte is also chucking 31% this yr.. wouldn't be surprised if he's out of their rotation soon.
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Donte continues to get glazed to no end by some people on this board lol
            
                                    
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-Jragon- wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:-Jragon- wrote:
I love this board. I am definitely 100% here for the buy-low on Donte takes. I watched him go 1 - 10 against Portland the other day lmao... we need BBIQ not someone dumb enough to keep chucking until they are 1 - 10 and coach finally sits you the rest of the night. We need draw and kicks/swing the ball dudes..imagine Donte firing up yolos while Dame and Giannis roll their eyes. We already have Donte except he's a 7'0 version and people can rarely get good paint looks when he's in.
Over the past 4 years, Donte has shot 39% from 3, Dame has shot 35% from 3.
What's really impressive about Donte is that he shoots this well while also playing defense.
Comparing Donte to Dame is criminal or comedy gold. Donte is a fringe rotation player and Dame is HOFer.. comedy on this board doesn't disappoint.
Donte is also chucking 31% this yr.. wouldn't be surprised if he's out of their rotation soon.
No one compared anything, I just simply stated some facts. Another fact, Dame was shooting 31% from before last game. Donte could have a big game any day.
Last season, Donte was 3.2 VORP, Dame was 2.7 VORP. Making 3s and playing defense has a huge impact to winning. Dame makes $37.3 million more than Donte.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:-Jragon- wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:
Over the past 4 years, Donte has shot 39% from 3, Dame has shot 35% from 3.
What's really impressive about Donte is that he shoots this well while also playing defense.
Comparing Donte to Dame is criminal or comedy gold. Donte is a fringe rotation player and Dame is HOFer.. comedy on this board doesn't disappoint.
Donte is also chucking 31% this yr.. wouldn't be surprised if he's out of their rotation soon.
No one compared anything, I just simply stated some facts. Another fact, Dame was shooting 31% from before last game. Donte could have a big game any day.
Last season, Donte was 3.2 VORP, Dame was 2.7 VORP. Making 3s and playing defense has a huge impact to winning. Dame makes $37.3 million more than Donte.
Can we do T. Prince vs Luka next
lol, love this board
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STJ.....    Imagine being 6'1 and being so F-ing good at basketball that MFers double and triple team you as soon as you get to the logo.   He's also the only 6'1 guy in the top 10 in FTA per game .. he's 6th.  That means teams are so desperate to stop this 6'1 MFer that they double, triple and hack the F out of him just to have a chance he doesn't get red scorching hot that day.
Donte is an afterthought GD bench player that teams leave open just so good players don't take as many shots. All the #'s you quoted are Bolsh#t. When you compare #'s make sure the role of the players is similar so that it's apples to apples and represents who a player really is. Wtf would Donte do with a logo double team everytime he touches the ball? I'd love to think you're joking but I've seen too much of this from you.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Donte is an afterthought GD bench player that teams leave open just so good players don't take as many shots. All the #'s you quoted are Bolsh#t. When you compare #'s make sure the role of the players is similar so that it's apples to apples and represents who a player really is. Wtf would Donte do with a logo double team everytime he touches the ball? I'd love to think you're joking but I've seen too much of this from you.
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Assuming everyone is soon healthy this is probably Doc’s 10 man rotation.
Lillard (36)/Wright (12)
Jackson (20)/Green (20)/GTJ (8)
Midds (32)/GTJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
Whose minutes do you trust less? That probably gives you the answer for the Bucks’ bigger needs. IMO you don’t need another big. Once Middleton returns you already have your backup 4/3 with Prince. Obviously more athletic Kuminga would be ideal for that spot, but Prince’s efficient performance from the beginning of the season allows you to use your limited assets elsewhere.
Personally I don’t trust Wright at all and I’m a bit undecided if any of AJJ/Green/GTJ are NBA playoff performers. Which means that you need a SG who can shoot 3s, play some D, play some PG and you need him to be available close to Pat’s money.
That’s a tough one and the only one who comes in mind is DDV. Pat and 2031 FRP for DDV works for Minny, but then you need some more teams to get involved for the Bucks to skip the 2nd apron and make the trade legal. Marjon, Wright, Livingston would also have to go. Maybe Trent too.
Lillard (36)/DDV (12)
DDV (20)/Green (20)/AJJ (8)
Midds (32)/AJJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
I would feel much better if Horst could pull this off. Bring back Bobby/Brook in 10ish deals next season and you have a 3 year fully equipped window to bring another championship.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Lillard (36)/Wright (12)
Jackson (20)/Green (20)/GTJ (8)
Midds (32)/GTJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
Whose minutes do you trust less? That probably gives you the answer for the Bucks’ bigger needs. IMO you don’t need another big. Once Middleton returns you already have your backup 4/3 with Prince. Obviously more athletic Kuminga would be ideal for that spot, but Prince’s efficient performance from the beginning of the season allows you to use your limited assets elsewhere.
Personally I don’t trust Wright at all and I’m a bit undecided if any of AJJ/Green/GTJ are NBA playoff performers. Which means that you need a SG who can shoot 3s, play some D, play some PG and you need him to be available close to Pat’s money.
That’s a tough one and the only one who comes in mind is DDV. Pat and 2031 FRP for DDV works for Minny, but then you need some more teams to get involved for the Bucks to skip the 2nd apron and make the trade legal. Marjon, Wright, Livingston would also have to go. Maybe Trent too.
Lillard (36)/DDV (12)
DDV (20)/Green (20)/AJJ (8)
Midds (32)/AJJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
I would feel much better if Horst could pull this off. Bring back Bobby/Brook in 10ish deals next season and you have a 3 year fully equipped window to bring another championship.
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slos wrote:Assuming everyone is soon healthy this is probably Doc’s 10 man rotation.
Lillard (36)/Wright (12)
Jackson (20)/Green (20)/GTJ (8)
Midds (32)/GTJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
Whose minutes do you trust less? That probably gives you the answer for the Bucks’ bigger needs. IMO you don’t need another big. Once Middleton returns you already have your backup 4/3 with Prince. Obviously more athletic Kuminga would be ideal for that spot, but Prince’s efficient performance from the beginning of the season allows you to use your limited assets elsewhere.
Personally I don’t trust Wright at all and I’m a bit undecided if any of AJJ/Green/GTJ are NBA playoff performers. Which means that you need a SG who can shoot 3s, play some D, play some PG and you need him to be available close to Pat’s money.
That’s a tough one and the only one who comes in mind is DDV. Pat and 2031 FRP for DDV works for Minny, but then you need some more teams to get involved for the Bucks to skip the 2nd apron and make the trade legal. Marjon, Wright, Livingston would also have to go. Maybe Trent too.
Lillard (36)/DDV (12)
DDV (20)/Green (20)/AJJ (8)
Midds (32)/AJJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
I would feel much better if Horst could pull this off. Bring back Bobby/Brook in 10ish deals next season and you have a 3 year fully equipped window to bring another championship.
I'm more worried about the Prince minutes, and who's going to play with Giannis as the small ball 4 and actually help of the glass. DDV would be nice, but a bit of a luxury.
Wright wasn't signed for his regular season efforts. He's a proven playoff performer.
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slos wrote:Assuming everyone is soon healthy this is probably Doc’s 10 man rotation.
Lillard (36)/Wright (12)
Jackson (20)/Green (20)/GTJ (8)
Midds (32)/GTJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
Whose minutes do you trust less? That probably gives you the answer for the Bucks’ bigger needs. IMO you don’t need another big. Once Middleton returns you already have your backup 4/3 with Prince. Obviously more athletic Kuminga would be ideal for that spot, but Prince’s efficient performance from the beginning of the season allows you to use your limited assets elsewhere.
Personally I don’t trust Wright at all and I’m a bit undecided if any of AJJ/Green/GTJ are NBA playoff performers. Which means that you need a SG who can shoot 3s, play some D, play some PG and you need him to be available close to Pat’s money.
That’s a tough one and the only one who comes in mind is DDV. Pat and 2031 FRP for DDV works for Minny, but then you need some more teams to get involved for the Bucks to skip the 2nd apron and make the trade legal. Marjon, Wright, Livingston would also have to go. Maybe Trent too.
Lillard (36)/DDV (12)
DDV (20)/Green (20)/AJJ (8)
Midds (32)/AJJ (8)/Prince (8)
Giannis (36)/Prince (8)/Bobby (4)
Brook (32)/Bobby (16)
I would feel much better if Horst could pull this off. Bring back Bobby/Brook in 10ish deals next season and you have a 3 year fully equipped window to bring another championship.
48 minutes (Giannis will play some C, hell be forced to but even 38 mins of this is bad) of Brook & Bobby is the biggest playoff weakness by far. No other trades should even be entertained until an athletic switchable big is found.
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There's no way in hell that the Timberwolves are giving us DDV for Pat & the '31 pick. 
Thus turning KAT into Randle, Connaughton & a pick.
            
                                    
                                    Thus turning KAT into Randle, Connaughton & a pick.
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theFireBlanket wrote:There's no way in hell that the Timberwolves are giving us DDV for Pat & the '31 pick.
Thus turning KAT into Randle, Connaughton & a pick.
Agree, because that not a legal trade.
Wolves need a PG, badly. Find them a PG, and i bet Donte could be had. However, I think I'd rather just role with Ajax and Dairy Bird, and concentrate and help elsewhere.
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theFireBlanket wrote:There's no way in hell that the Timberwolves are giving us DDV for Pat & the '31 pick.
Thus turning KAT into Randle, Connaughton & a pick.
They did get an interesting DET FRP with some protections too. It was a bad trade from the beginning. If they think they can save faces with two FRPs from DDV good luck to them!






