PG: Knicks vs ATL

[F N 11]

Best record at the ASB in 28 years? Best team this century. End of story.

We already use to having a good team. We tryna get past the second round. Y’all think this will work? It’s ok to point out flaws in wins. Knicks have a lot to work on if they are trying to win a chip. If they want to win 50 games and excite casual fans then they can keep doing what they are doing.

People can save their tears bro. I ain't handing out tissues for people who can't appreciate a winning team. Used to a good team? Muthafuqqas been crying about this team ALL SEASON!! If that ain't you then good for you. I didn't say anything about pointing out flaws in wins. Not sure why you are coming at me on that front. Thibs is the biggest flaw we have and I have let it be known PLENTY. I don't have time for the constant BS cry baby garbage posts as if nothing is good enough around here though. Crying about the future that hasn't happened and disrespectful to people who are enjoying the present? Those people can kiss my entire ass!

This team has been together for 3.5 months. We replaced 9-10 players from last years battered and tattered roster that Jalen carried to the 2nd round on his back!! We are just getting warmed up. Maybe we fall short in the playoffs. So what? It takes YEARS to build a championship team. Not weeks. We are very close and I am sick of the mutts in here crying about everything. It's fuggin ridiculous. Acting like none of this matters? FOH with that BS.CRY BABIES NEED A DIAPER CHANGE? STFU AND GTFO. There is plenty of room on the GB for pussies like that.

Yeah bro you not watching ball you just happy for the win. If this was a loss we would not be seeing this happy go lucky bs lmao. Y’all know I’m right. So many flaws we must fix to get better. I’m the biggest homer in here I just call it how I see it. If yall want to point out stats, point out our defensive stats tell me if that’s going to win a chip or get us far in playoffs. All of a sudden yall forgot the Celtics game? We did the same things this game man stop playing.

Hard headed just wanna be right. Call it how you see it.

[Jeff Van Gully]

We won't be favorites to win it all this year and that's OK. It's year one and our core is fairly young. It doesn't mean we can't or won't but it seems to me that some of you cannot enjoy the journey unless it's super easy and even then you'd be miserable.

I feel sorry for you. Best season in decades and you can't even enjoy it. Seek help!

Sports is not for you!

Oppositional defiant disorder known as the misbehaving child syndrome. The negative takes and annoying other posters, brings them attention from the reactions, which is what they’re really in it for. They don’t always watch the games but will still be here for the attention. Simple as that

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. It was first described by David Dunning and Justin Kruger in 1999

sounds like the premise of a site called “RealGM.”

[Knick4Real]

KAT shot the ball out of his mind last night. If OG had been available to play and brought his traditional defense, this game would have been over in the 3rd quarter.

[snadler]

For those foolishly hoping Thibs gets fired, what other coach that is currently available or could be available would have this current roster, with their lack of depth, injuries etc, have them at 36-18? And before you give me the same old bs that Thibs isn’t the guy to win them a ring, I can promise you if the knicks don’t win a ring with this core, it will not be a coaching issue, it will be the talent/experience/depth from other teams will be the reason..not the coach..

[Jeff Van Gully]

the final horn was especially enriching this morning.

it’s always better to win and learn than lose and learn.

yes, indeed.

[ScienceOfLosing]

lol giving up 140+ points to a terrible hawks team but apparently this is the best Knicks team of the century.

They been saying it’s team defense but it’s really having OG (and to a much lesser point Bridges) out there.
OG does so much on that end, a bit like Mitch before he turned into the hulk.
Looking forward to having Mitch back.

If we can move KAT for Giannes, you do it. (After the Luka” trade”, anything is possible.)
I don’t see a starting unit with Brunson and KAT being able to win it all.
Not with 3 wings trying to make up for it.

I also don’t think Thibs is the right coach.
Wish Bryant was our coach. They shi* the bed there.

[F N 11]

Real gm is like MSGM, might as well put yall on payroll the way yall attack people for pointing out weaknesses

How many games do we have to see the same thing for it to be concerning to yall?

[ScienceOfLosing]

For those foolishly hoping Thibs gets fired, what other coach that is currently available or could be available would have this current roster, with their lack of depth, injuries etc, have them at 36-18? And before you give me the same old bs that Thibs isn’t the guy to win them a ring, I can promise you if the knicks don’t win a ring with this core, it will not be a coaching issue, it will be the talent/experience/depth from other teams will be the reason..not the coach..

WHEN we don’t win it will be because of injuries/attrition. (aka The Thibs Dilemma.)
We should have fired Thibs and promoted Bryant.
Now we’re between a rock and a hard place.

btw - I mostly like Thibs but his stubborness, lack of quick adjustments, lack of in game rookie development, etc…

[ScienceOfLosing]

Real gm is like MSGM, might as well put yall on payroll the way yall attack people for pointing out weaknesses

How many games do we have to see the same thing for it to be concerning to yall?

1st or 2nd round of this years playoffs is my guess.

[BowlRips]

Real gm is like MSGM, might as well put yall on payroll the way yall attack people for pointing out weaknesses

How many games do we have to see the same thing for it to be concerning to yall?

I mean who said its not concerning? They are not good defensively. I dont think anyone is arguing that.
That doesnt change the fact that this is best record theyve had pre-all star break in 20 years.
And is a fun enjoyable young team assembled together.
Will they win the ship this year? I dont know, prob not if we are realistic but thats always the case.
Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

[robillionaire]

the final horn was especially enriching this morning.

it’s always better to win and learn than lose and learn.

yes, indeed.

Yeah no doubt . On the should have called timeout issue, they clearly should have, but also we struggle inbounding the ball even out of a timeout. So maybe they didn’t want to let them get their defense set to guard the inbounds and pass it in quick and that was part of the plan. Which obviously failed spectacularly. But they should probably practice these inbounds situations more or at least make sure the ball is in the hands of a player who they can trust to not F it up. Something they can hopefully learn from so it doesn’t happen in a more meaningful moment

[F N 11]

Real gm is like MSGM, might as well put yall on payroll the way yall attack people for pointing out weaknesses

How many games do we have to see the same thing for it to be concerning to yall?

I mean who said its not concerning? They are not good defensively. I dont think anyone is arguing that.
That doesnt change the fact that this is best record theyve had pre-all star break in 20 years.
And is a fun enjoyable young team assembled together.
Will they win the ship this year? I dont know, prob not if we are realistic but thats always the case.
Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

I have higher aspirations for the Knicks. And I am enjoying it.

[G_K_F]

Clinical psychologist Fat Kat.

Of course Fat Kat neglects to mention that he thinks being a fan is being positive at all times - as he has made this exact lame post for the last 25 years. Guy was writing the same BS when Jerome James was gingerly running up the court or when Lou Amundson was bricking a layup. The true fan of fans - Fat Kat. Never a harsh word for the Knicks.

Let’s all stand up and give this man the standing ovation he deserves. The greatest fan who ever fanned! Maybe the greatest human who ever lived! Hip hip hooray!

[snadler]

For those foolishly hoping Thibs gets fired, what other coach that is currently available or could be available would have this current roster, with their lack of depth, injuries etc, have them at 36-18? And before you give me the same old bs that Thibs isn’t the guy to win them a ring, I can promise you if the knicks don’t win a ring with this core, it will not be a coaching issue, it will be the talent/experience/depth from other teams will be the reason..not the coach..

WHEN we don’t win it will be because of injuries/attrition. (aka The Thibs Dilemma.)
We should have fired Thibs and promoted Bryant.
Now we’re between a rock and a hard place.

btw - I mostly like Thibs but his stubborness, lack of quick adjustments, lack of in game rookie development, etc…

So let’s look at this logically, you think a coach that has and still has ZERO head coach experience is all of a sudden going to come in and have this team with this current roster have a better record than they currently have and give them a better chance at a ring, truly based on ZERO actual facts or experience to back it up..again just a foolish take

[G_K_F]

The problem? The PROBLEM???

We’re 38-16.

Our record against all opponents so far this season:

Over .500: 11-12
Under .500: 25-6

Top 3 Teams: 0-5
Bottom 7 Teams: 17-1
Rest of League: 19-12

You need to forgive people who have higher expectations. The team is built and paid in salary to win now - and by win we mean a title. We made all these flurry of moves. Ending up as a 2nd round exit again wouldn’t really be a success.

At the end of the day, that’s all it is. We haven’t won a title in most of our lifetimes, can’t fault fans for expecting more.

Despite that, the vast majority of fans here are enjoying the ride regardless of venting online… just because you air out your frustrations doesn’t mean you’re not on the other end of your phone/computer celebrating and cheering our guys every night.

Fan Police like FrozenEnvelope “sports aren’t for you” are far worse lol. That’s herb behavior.

Anyone who is unable to handle some basic fact-based criticism of their favorite sports team (I’m providing actual stats) needs to kick rocks. I really don’t care what those people have to say. They can freeze deez nuts.

[Jalen Bluntson]

And with that sad excuse for a win, the Knicks defensive rating dropped to 18th on the season. They will have to give up 3 fewer points over the final 28 games (when Mitch is back) to finish in the top 10 defensively. It'll say something about Mitch if they can do that.

Statmuse had them at 17 last night and 21st today. Elsewhere we are listed at tied for 12.. Since OG went down they dropped a bunch of spots in 5 games. They gave up an avg of 12ppg more in his absence. It isn't crazy to suggest they jump back up adding both OG and Mitch at least. Not sure if Wright is the perimeter blanket people claim he is but, if that's true then he should see some PT and help the defense as well. Thibs will let us know.

#2 offense can make up for that though. As long as players are performing at their peak. AKA bring their A game.

Want to know how useful these stats are? Look at the teams ahead of us if you want to laugh. The only stats that matter are W/L record. We are top 4 in the league. People can bring up stats all they want. None of it matters when the games are played. We have dominated the top defenses in several games this season. We smoked the #2 defense multiple times. We have also lost to teams way down the list.

When the dust clears all that matters is how you played on a given night. Stats don't predict outcomes. If they did, no one would ever lose when gambling.

This is the best start to almost 3/4 of a season in 28 years. It's been a fun ride with ups and downs just like every other team hoping to compete for that title. Will we win it all? You're gonna have to watch the games to find out. That's the beauty of this experience. No one knows how it will end until it's over.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[Clyde_Style]

Victory is Sweet!

The aroma of fresh brewed coffee blankets the morning with a winning smell.

Bow down to the winners and their coaches.

Loyalty or Death!

Submit!

[thebuzzardman]

Oppositional defiant disorder known as the misbehaving child syndrome. The negative takes and annoying other posters, brings them attention from the reactions, which is what they’re really in it for. They don’t always watch the games but will still be here for the attention. Simple as that

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. It was first described by David Dunning and Justin Kruger in 1999

sounds like the premise of a site called “RealGM.”

Yes, both

[Clyde_Style]

sounds like the premise of a site called “RealGM.”

Yes, both

I thought Hoffmann and Streep were excellent in Kruger vs. Kruger