KD Traded for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 & 5 2nds

[sunskerr]

We're gonna suck with or without Beal. No reason to attach anything to get rid of him. Hope Green works out but let's just say I ain't holding my breath. He'll get all the opportunity he needs next to Booker.

[Bogyo]

I’ll wait to judge come opening day. I doubt the roster looks anything like we have. I don’t think Jalen green is here either.

Noone wants Green. Noone. He is a brainless ineffective chucker who can not grasp the simplest team basketball concepts for 4 years now. He is also short for the position he is playing, and delusional about his own abilities. He shoots 42% from the field and 34% from 3 - that is probably the worst shooting guard numbers in the whole league overall. The rockets did not want to resign him, they only did it to kinda not let him walk, and have been looking for a trade for 3ish years now. Mind you this was on a lottery team in the previous seasons - so basically they tried to get rid of their number 2 pick who was scoring about 20 a game a year after drafting him!!! What does that tell you about this mental midget? But being that he might just fit in this organization as our front office is probably even worse above the neckline in their profession.

I'm really curious what some of the smarter media will say about this trade - I would be very surprised if its anything positive.

As for the possible follow up trades - do you (or anyone on the board) has ANY positive thoughts about this front office making an OK move (not a good one, that is fully out of the question, just an OKish one) knowing this was their KD trade out of 2-3 more possibilities, and the "team" that is this roster right now? I mean ANY other gm who they call KNOWS we have 2 untradeable contracts in Beal and Green, and we HAVE TO trade a couple swings in order to field a team that is capable of winning 10+ NBA games next season. Why would anyone think we would get ANYTHING valuable when the circumstances are like that? Especially since rival front offices know they are dealing with d*mb fcks?

(Bum, not really directed at you, you were just the one I quoted out of several posts like that, anyone being optimistic on the above can answer any of that - at least i ll have a laugh).

[Mr Puddles]

I’ll wait to judge come opening day. I doubt the roster looks anything like we have. I don’t think Jalen green is here either.

Right now we're in cap hell, we basically have no starting level PG, PF or C, all our highest paid guys play the same position and hold no trade value, we don't control our own pick until 2032, and we just traded away our best trade chip outside of Booker for 25 cents on the dollar including another bad contract at a position we don't need. Houston was in desperate need of an elite scorer and we basically said, "here, have ours, and feel free to send up back whatever crap you can assemble."

The only moves going forward, will be ones where we're getting the short end of the stick. The word is out that our front office is the sucker at the table, and we'll be taken for all our chips. You think that other teams are going to pay fair value for our guys, when they know that we can't possibly roll out a line-up of all shooting guards and small forwards next season? The Suns are the ones who are desperate for roster changes, the rest of the league will just sit back and reap the rewards.

[Qwigglez]

I’ll wait to judge come opening day. I doubt the roster looks anything like we have. I don’t think Jalen green is here either.

Noone wants Green. Noone. He is a brainless ineffective chucker who can not grasp the simplest team basketball concepts for 4 years now. He is also short for the position he is playing, and delusional about his own abilities. He shoots 42% from the field and 34% from 3 - that is probably the worst shooting guard numbers in the whole league overall. The rockets did not want to resign him, they only did it to kinda not let him walk, and have been looking for a trade for 3ish years now. Mind you this was on a lottery team in the previous seasons - so basically they tried to get rid of their number 2 pick who was scoring about 20 a game a year after drafting him!!! What does that tell you about this mental midget? But being that he might just fit in this organization as our front office is probably even worse above the neckline in their profession.

I'm really curious what some of the smarter media will say about this trade - I would be very surprised if its anything positive.

As for the possible follow up trades - do you (or anyone on the board) has ANY positive thoughts about this front office making an OK move (not a good one, that is fully out of the question, just an OKish one) knowing this was their KD trade out of 2-3 more possibilities, and the "team" that is this roster right now? I mean ANY other gm who they call KNOWS we have 2 untradeable contracts in Beal and Green, and we HAVE TO trade a couple swings in order to field a team that is capable of winning 10+ NBA games next season. Why would anyone think we would get ANYTHING valuable when the circumstances are like that? Especially since rival front offices know they are dealing with d*mb fcks?

(Bum, not really directed at you, you were just the one I quoted out of several posts like that, anyone being optimistic on the above can answer any of that - at least i ll have a laugh).

I'm trying to find positives in Jalen Green, but I do agree he hasn't really improved enough since his rookie season.

He hasn't missed a game in the last 2 seasons. He did lead the Rockets in scoring, so maybe he was told to be aggressive and take shots, even if they are bad? His FG% in the 10–16-foot range is atrocious at 30%, even 3-10 feet it is pretty bad shooting roughly 42%. Overall, his 2P FG% averages out for his career at 49%.
His % of FG Ast'd is fairly low for 2P and even for 3P at 26.2% and 53.8%. To me, that indicates he is creating more of his shots on his own, some sort of iso. Booker, this past season was at 43.1% and 71.6% for those same stats. Actually, I was trying to find someone else in the league who had similar %'s in this category and I found Donovan Mitchell, who is probably a good comparison for Jalen Green except Mitchell plays better on the defensive end. It could help if Jalen Green gained a bit more muscle.

[Saberestar]

Upcoming 25 wins and none of our picks

That's why most fans are gonna be happier next season than last year.

Expectations are pretty low now and I think that our team is gonna exceed those expectations.

[SlovenianDragon]

It's time to trade book for his sake and our sake... I love booker but in the end it's pointless to hang on... even go as far to say selfish? Hopefully Ishbia learned his lesson and we can compete 5 years from now...

[Saberestar]

I’ll wait to judge come opening day. I doubt the roster looks anything like we have. I don’t think Jalen green is here either.

Noone wants Green. Noone. He is a brainless ineffective chucker who can not grasp the simplest team basketball concepts for 4 years now. He is also short for the position he is playing, and delusional about his own abilities. He shoots 42% from the field and 34% from 3 - that is probably the worst shooting guard numbers in the whole league overall. The rockets did not want to resign him, they only did it to kinda not let him walk, and have been looking for a trade for 3ish years now. Mind you this was on a lottery team in the previous seasons - so basically they tried to get rid of their number 2 pick who was scoring about 20 a game a year after drafting him!!! What does that tell you about this mental midget? But being that he might just fit in this organization as our front office is probably even worse above the neckline in their profession.

I'm really curious what some of the smarter media will say about this trade - I would be very surprised if its anything positive.

As for the possible follow up trades - do you (or anyone on the board) has ANY positive thoughts about this front office making an OK move (not a good one, that is fully out of the question, just an OKish one) knowing this was their KD trade out of 2-3 more possibilities, and the "team" that is this roster right now? I mean ANY other gm who they call KNOWS we have 2 untradeable contracts in Beal and Green, and we HAVE TO trade a couple swings in order to field a team that is capable of winning 10+ NBA games next season. Why would anyone think we would get ANYTHING valuable when the circumstances are like that? Especially since rival front offices know they are dealing with d*mb fcks?

(Bum, not really directed at you, you were just the one I quoted out of several posts like that, anyone being optimistic on the above can answer any of that - at least i ll have a laugh).

I have been high on Jalen Green for the last couple of years. I think he has some untapped potential as a facilitator and as a defender and improving those two aspects of his game can make him an All-Star pretty soon.

The guy plays with passion. He has played every game for the last two seasons, somewhat an Ironman these days.

His bad series against the Warriors can benefit us because that's why we could get him next to Dillon and #10. He was playing so well during the RS that some people wouldn't even trade him for Book.

I understand that you have a different opinion about him but there are undeniable positive facts about Jalen Green. Leading scorer on the 2nd best team in the West. His defense ha progressed every year (advanced stats) since coming to the league. Durability.

And yeah, I agree that he needs to improve his efficiency and awareness on the court, but there is room for him to grow as a 23 years old player.

[thamadkant]

I’ll wait to judge come opening day. I doubt the roster looks anything like we have. I don’t think Jalen green is here either.

Noone wants Green. Noone. He is a brainless ineffective chucker who can not grasp the simplest team basketball concepts for 4 years now. He is also short for the position he is playing, and delusional about his own abilities. He shoots 42% from the field and 34% from 3 - that is probably the worst shooting guard numbers in the whole league overall. The rockets did not want to resign him, they only did it to kinda not let him walk, and have been looking for a trade for 3ish years now. Mind you this was on a lottery team in the previous seasons - so basically they tried to get rid of their number 2 pick who was scoring about 20 a game a year after drafting him!!! What does that tell you about this mental midget? But being that he might just fit in this organization as our front office is probably even worse above the neckline in their profession.

I'm really curious what some of the smarter media will say about this trade - I would be very surprised if its anything positive.

As for the possible follow up trades - do you (or anyone on the board) has ANY positive thoughts about this front office making an OK move (not a good one, that is fully out of the question, just an OKish one) knowing this was their KD trade out of 2-3 more possibilities, and the "team" that is this roster right now? I mean ANY other gm who they call KNOWS we have 2 untradeable contracts in Beal and Green, and we HAVE TO trade a couple swings in order to field a team that is capable of winning 10+ NBA games next season. Why would anyone think we would get ANYTHING valuable when the circumstances are like that? Especially since rival front offices know they are dealing with d*mb fcks?

(Bum, not really directed at you, you were just the one I quoted out of several posts like that, anyone being optimistic on the above can answer any of that - at least i ll have a laugh).

Green shoots 48% from 2pt field goals.

But he shoots 8 3pters a game at 34% which lowers his overall fg to 42%.

And he has improved every year.

The biggest problem is he was Rockets best SG, well on the Suns he isn't. But he has the talent, as he was former pick 2 behind Cade.... and Cade also improved every year. So it's fair to say Green learns as he gets older.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I’ll wait to judge come opening day. I doubt the roster looks anything like we have. I don’t think Jalen green is here either.

Noone wants Green. Noone. He is a brainless ineffective chucker who can not grasp the simplest team basketball concepts for 4 years now. He is also short for the position he is playing, and delusional about his own abilities. He shoots 42% from the field and 34% from 3 - that is probably the worst shooting guard numbers in the whole league overall. The rockets did not want to resign him, they only did it to kinda not let him walk, and have been looking for a trade for 3ish years now. Mind you this was on a lottery team in the previous seasons - so basically they tried to get rid of their number 2 pick who was scoring about 20 a game a year after drafting him!!! What does that tell you about this mental midget? But being that he might just fit in this organization as our front office is probably even worse above the neckline in their profession.

I'm really curious what some of the smarter media will say about this trade - I would be very surprised if its anything positive.

As for the possible follow up trades - do you (or anyone on the board) has ANY positive thoughts about this front office making an OK move (not a good one, that is fully out of the question, just an OKish one) knowing this was their KD trade out of 2-3 more possibilities, and the "team" that is this roster right now? I mean ANY other gm who they call KNOWS we have 2 untradeable contracts in Beal and Green, and we HAVE TO trade a couple swings in order to field a team that is capable of winning 10+ NBA games next season. Why would anyone think we would get ANYTHING valuable when the circumstances are like that? Especially since rival front offices know they are dealing with d*mb fcks?

(Bum, not really directed at you, you were just the one I quoted out of several posts like that, anyone being optimistic on the above can answer any of that - at least i ll have a laugh).

Green shoots 48% from 2pt field goals.

But he shoots 8 3pters a game at 34% which lowers his overall fg to 42%.

And he has improved every year.

The biggest problem is he was Rockets best SG, well on the Suns he isn't. But he has the talent, as he was former pick 2 behind Cade.... and Cade also improved every year. So it's fair to say Green learns as he gets older.

Ironically enough, his floor projection is Bradley Beal. And his top end ceiling outcome (projection) that you're really praying for is supposedly somewhere between Clyde " the glide" Drexler and Kobe Bryant. Also, Ge and Booker should get along much better as both players idolized Kobe Bryant too.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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And this is why you MUST go big with your picks in the draft!! All power forwards and centers and maybe one Jumbo SF (at least 6'8 or bigger like Thiero).

And then maybe a point guard at 52 or 59 in Kobe Johnson, Micah Peavy, Kadary Richmond. Or if you go slightly smaller, maybe Lamont Butler, RJ Felton or Tre Galloway.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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Tep! They folded badly and got "Woodsheded" by Houston in embarassing fashion! Now they need to make it right by going big in the draft and trading back (salaries and the 10th pick) with Brooklyn for Ckaxton/ 19th pick, 26th pick, and 36th pick. That way they can feature:

19- Danny Wolf or Maxime Raynaud.
26- Walter Clayton or Ben Saraf.
29- Ryan Kalkbrenner or Rocco Zisarky.
36- Adou Thiero or Bogoljub Marković.
52- Obinna anuchili Killen or Aaron Scott.
59- Jackson Moni or Kanon Catchings.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Again! This is why there have been reports of interest from Phoenix having interest in Claxton from Brooklyn in a three team trade before KD screwed things up for them and nixed the deal.

It's because Ckaxton is elite defensively, is elite at rim protection and recovery. He gas elite Mobility and switchability, and has impressive ballhandling abilities and can initiate the break going coast to coast.


He's also on a 25 million descending scale contract making him cost effective for a borderline all defensive starting caliber center. And doing a trade back scenario with Brooklyn would allow Phoenix to turn one high pick into multiple 1sts while addressing their starting center needs with Claxton and backup 4/5 with Clowney.


Turning the 10th pick into multiple cost controlled young athletic talents that can fill out our roster and address multiple needs whilst also helping us reduce payroll and generate some dap flexibility too. Doing this just makes too much sense. And we can then pick from something like the........................

19- Danny Wolf. PF
26- Walter Clayton. PG
29- Adou Thiero. SF
52- Vlad Goldin. C
59- Kobe Sanders. SG

JGreen/ Booker/ Brooks/ FA / Claxton.
Clayton/ FA / Dunn/ Clowney/ Ighodaro.
Gillespie / Sanders/ Thiero/ Wolf/ Goldin.

[phrazbit]

Disaster, total and unmitigated disaster.

The KD trade with the Nets will go down as one of the worst trades in league history and now we have compounded upon it.

Green is terrible, just a dog **** player on a terrible contract. A ball hog chucker who kills his team all over the court. Brooks is maybe the most loathable player in basketball.

We did get the 10th pick... while also adding about 100 million in contract guarantees with 2 players who are not worth anything.

Unless we hit this 10th pick out of the park, we'd have been better off waiving KD.

[KdoubleDees23]

I remember saying I wanted Jabari Smith Jr , Brooks, whitmore and #10 and yall went crazy on me saying Jabari Smith Jr sucks , blah blah blah . Now I see everyone saying we got hosed because Jabari smith wasn’t included

Dude KD is 37 and he is a cancer to a team unless you have true leaders like curry, green , Klay in their prime

Houston is not going to be a contender. KD might not even hold up for a full season being 38 next year !

Wait till the season to start crying as our roster will be updated and different than it is right now

[KdoubleDees23]

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Again! This is why there have been reports of interest from Phoenix having interest in Claxton from Brooklyn in a three team trade before KD screwed things up for them and nixed the deal.

It's because Ckaxton is elite defensively, is elite at rim protection and recovery. He gas elite Mobility and switchability, and has impressive ballhandling abilities and can initiate the break going coast to coast.


He's also on a 25 million descending scale contract making him cost effective for a borderline all defensive starting caliber center. And doing a trade back scenario with Brooklyn would allow Phoenix to turn one high pick into multiple 1sts while addressing their starting center needs with Claxton and backup 4/5 with Clowney.


Turning the 10th pick into multiple cost controlled young athletic talents that can fill out our roster and address multiple needs whilst also helping us reduce payroll and generate some dap flexibility too. Doing this just makes too much sense. And we can then pick from something like the........................

19- Danny Wolf. PF
26- Walter Clayton. PG
29- Adou Thiero. SF
52- Vlad Goldin. C
59- Kobe Sanders. SG

JGreen/ Booker/ Brooks/ FA / Claxton.
Clayton/ FA / Dunn/ Clowney/ Ighodaro.
Gillespie / Sanders/ Thiero/ Wolf/ Goldin.

Claxton sucks !!!!!!!!!!! Stop it

[DroughtsOverPHX]

Upcoming 25 wins and none of our picks

That's why most fans are gonna be happier next season than last year.

Expectations are pretty low now and I think that our team is gonna exceed those expectations.

It reminds me of 2013 where we had Alex Len and Miles Plumlee as center and ended 48-34 but didn't make the playoffs. There were a ton of fun moments that year much of it due to having low expectations. We had the best bench mob/cheerleaders then that I can remember.

And while I'm in fantasy land...Jalen breaks out this year, improves in all categories particularly shooting and is in talks for MIP. The league is shocked at how well he worked out with Booker.

[Frank Lee]

The three big deals azzhatMat has made have been to get rid of someone. KD, Ayton, Paul. Four if you count Okogie. A complete illusion that we were acquiring needed players. Dude will defend this deal like the huckster he is.

And wait, there is more to come. We have the same gaping holes as we did pre trade.

Edit… I failed to mention the ONE big deal (getting KD) that was the tail chasing catalyst. Wishbia has solidified himself as the Grand Wizard of Whiffing in the NBA.

[Rebound Mound]

I just cannot imagine the expressions of relief of all those candidates that chose not to take our HC vacancy and of those who were rejected... Odd has all the odds for this to be the most disastrous team of all time, in clear competition with ourselves of the 2024/2025 season and clearly marking all times in depressing teams above 200 million... a couple of teams around 140/150 will perform better, will have more future and be more fun to watch than us...

[sunsbg]

Bottom line - we got a #10 pick who'll probably not be very good this season if ever, 2nds that will be gone with Beal probably, one unlikeable dude, and wait for it ... the most redundant player in the league to our redundancy brothers Beal and Booker. Team BBIQ was low with KD, players fit was bad, with Green it'll be even worse. It's remarkable someone can build such a mess.