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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2021 » by saintEscaton » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:03 pm

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Scutt wrote:Only the Suns would give a 4 year, 52 million dollar contract to a 32 year old, who plays the same position as the the their only good young prospect, Alex Len. I would much rather had Wright back for nearly a third of the cost. He is 5 years younger, and plays both power forward and center, thus not taking away Lens minutes.

You do not spend 52 million on Chandler, just on the off chance it may help you land Aldridge. They are not going to pay Chandler 13 million a year to come off the bench, or play limited minutes as a starter. The way I see it, Alex Lens development is going to be hindered by this move, unless they plan on playing him as a power forward. Classic Suns move, ignoring the future to try and be relevant now.


Do people pay you trolls to come on this site and trash the Suns every move?

I just don't see how such bitter people end up on a fan site.


FYI, this isn't Bright Side of the Sun were comments get deleted for not meeting the standard of homerism
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2022 » by sunsfever68 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:03 pm

JMac1 wrote:
Scutt wrote:Only the Suns would give a 4 year, 52 million dollar contract to a 32 year old, who plays the same position as the the their only good young prospect, Alex Len. I would much rather had Wright back for nearly a third of the cost. He is 5 years younger, and plays both power forward and center, thus not taking away Lens minutes.

You do not spend 52 million on Chandler, just on the off chance it may help you land Aldridge.
They are not going to pay Chandler 13 million a year to come off the bench, or play limited minutes as a starter. The way I see it, Alex Lens development is going to be hindered by this move, unless they plan on playing him as a power forward. Classic Suns move, ignoring the future to try and be relevant now.


Yes you do, especially if the guy averaged 10 and 11 last year, plus worse case, Len play the 4. Primary goal was to get LMA and contingency plan was play Len at the four.



think that is a very underrated part of the signing.

We all wanted a Porzingis/Len front line

Well Len can shoot from deep and has range. you let Chandler play the 5 and you have Len slide from the 5 to the 4.

you can do kieff/len
kieff/chandler
Len/chandler
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2023 » by letsgosuns » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:04 pm

With or without LeMarcus Aldridge, there is no way in hell the Suns are a worse team today with Tyson Chandler than they were yesterday without him. Suns biggest problem was that they were horrible inside and had no resistance other than Len. The addition of Chandler changes that.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2024 » by bigfoot » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:05 pm

letsgosuns wrote:With or without LeMarcus Aldridge, there is no way in hell the Suns are a worse team today with Tyson Chandler than they were yesterday without him. Suns biggest problem was that they were horrible inside and had no resistance other than Len. The addition of Chandler changes that.


Yep ... Chandler is going to demand good defense from the Suns. Something fans have been biatching about for years.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2025 » by saintEscaton » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:05 pm

sunsfever68 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Scutt wrote:Only the Suns would give a 4 year, 52 million dollar contract to a 32 year old, who plays the same position as the the their only good young prospect, Alex Len. I would much rather had Wright back for nearly a third of the cost. He is 5 years younger, and plays both power forward and center, thus not taking away Lens minutes.

You do not spend 52 million on Chandler, just on the off chance it may help you land Aldridge.
They are not going to pay Chandler 13 million a year to come off the bench, or play limited minutes as a starter. The way I see it, Alex Lens development is going to be hindered by this move, unless they plan on playing him as a power forward. Classic Suns move, ignoring the future to try and be relevant now.


Yes you do, especially if the guy averaged 10 and 11 last year, plus worse case, Len play the 4. Primary goal was to get LMA and contingency plan was play Len at the four.



think that is a very underrated part of the signing.

We all wanted a Porzingis/Len front line

Well Len can shoot from deep and has range. you let Chandler play the 5 and you have Len slide from the 5 to the 4.

you can do kieff/len
kieff/chandler
Len/chandler


Playing Len at PF has got to be a joke? Trying to unaturally mold him into some type of Stretch 4 would hamper his long term development as a center and he still needs to develop a reliable post game. Our offense would suffer just for the marginal advantage of a twin towers defensive frontcourt which would probably be a net negative
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2026 » by Saberestar » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:05 pm

Scutt wrote:Only the Suns would give a 4 year, 52 million dollar contract to a 32 year old, who plays the same position as the the their only good young prospect, Alex Len. I would much rather had Wright back for nearly a third of the cost. He is 5 years younger, and plays both power forward and center, thus not taking away Lens minutes.

You do not spend 52 million on Chandler, just on the off chance it may help you land Aldridge. They are not going to pay Chandler 13 million a year to come off the bench, or play limited minutes as a starter. The way I see it, Alex Lens development is going to be hindered by this move, unless they plan on playing him as a power forward. Classic Suns move, ignoring the future to try and be relevant now.

I don't think this is a bad signing, Chandler is a great C and we can rotate Chandler / Markieff / Len a ton of minutes when all three are healthy. That if we don't sign LMA...if we sign him we are gonna be contenders with a tremendous team!
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2027 » by JJ13 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:06 pm

highly underrated part of this whole thing...Suns ability to convince Chandler to sign WITHOUT LMA...assuming $$$ was a big part of it, but impressive none the less that McD and Co. were able to sell Tyson on vision with Suns especially with Len as rising star
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2028 » by JMac1 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:06 pm

letsgosuns wrote:With or without LeMarcus Aldridge, there is no way in hell the Suns are a worse team today with Tyson Chandler than they were yesterday without him. Suns biggest problem was that they were horrible inside and had no resistance other than Len. The addition of Chandler changes that.


I'm happy either way. I wanted Jordan at the 5 and play Len at the four. If you can't get a 4, get a 5 and move Len...very easy move in reality.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2029 » by Scubetrolis » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:06 pm

Quick...didn't we turn down a trade with Tyson Chandler at one point because he had a bad toe or something? Am I mis-remembering?
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2030 » by saintEscaton » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:06 pm

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sunsfever68 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Yes you do, especially if the guy averaged 10 and 11 last year, plus worse case, Len play the 4. Primary goal was to get LMA and contingency plan was play Len at the four.



think that is a very underrated part of the signing.

We all wanted a Porzingis/Len front line

Well Len can shoot from deep and has range. you let Chandler play the 5 and you have Len slide from the 5 to the 4.

you can do kieff/len
kieff/chandler
Len/chandler


Playing Len at PF has got to be a joke? Trying to unaturally mold him into some type of Stretch 4 would hamper his long term development as a center and he still needs to develop a reliable post game. Our offense would suffer just so we could have a twin towers defensive frontcourt
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2031 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:07 pm

Wow got to work, opened up realGM and saw the this thread go from 60 something pages to 100 over night....

Someone want to give me an quick update?
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2032 » by JMac1 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:07 pm

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sunsfever68 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Yes you do, especially if the guy averaged 10 and 11 last year, plus worse case, Len play the 4. Primary goal was to get LMA and contingency plan was play Len at the four.



think that is a very underrated part of the signing.

We all wanted a Porzingis/Len front line

Well Len can shoot from deep and has range. you let Chandler play the 5 and you have Len slide from the 5 to the 4.

you can do kieff/len
kieff/chandler
Len/chandler


Playing Len at PF has got to be a joke? Trying to unaturally mold him into some type of Stretch 4 would hamper his long term development as a center and he still needs to develop a reliable post game. Our offense would suffer


That's your opinion, but it seems like mine is more in line with the people that matter.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2033 » by PassWarden » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:08 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/616377753797984256[/tweet]

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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2034 » by bigfoot » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:08 pm

Also if Tim Duncan can play defense until he is 38/39 then we should be excited to have a DYOP player at the age of 32.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2035 » by JMac1 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:08 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Wow got to work, opened up realGM and saw the this thread go from 60 something pages to 100 over night....

Someone want to give me an quick update?



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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2036 » by rsavaj » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:08 pm

LMA still has to meet with the Knicks tmw, so he's not going to announce any decision today.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2037 » by lespaul89 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:08 pm

Scutt wrote:Only the Suns would give a 4 year, 52 million dollar contract to a 32 year old, who plays the same position as the the their only good young prospect, Alex Len. I would much rather had Wright back for nearly a third of the cost. He is 5 years younger, and plays both power forward and center, thus not taking away Lens minutes.

You do not spend 52 million on Chandler, just on the off chance it may help you land Aldridge. They are not going to pay Chandler 13 million a year to come off the bench, or play limited minutes as a starter. The way I see it, Alex Lens development is going to be hindered by this move, unless they plan on playing him as a power forward. Classic Suns move, ignoring the future to try and be relevant now.


The money is insignificant with new cap next year. It fills two holes that we desperately need. Leadership and toughness. Our team was soft last year. We had no heart. Chandler brings that. Len hasn't played an entire NBA season, so it's nice to have Chandler.

Do I like the fact that it's a 4 year deal, and he's already 32? Not really. But what's the alternative? Not sign anybody? We are better than we were yesterday, and we especially got better on the end of the court the Suns notoriously ignore.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2038 » by saintEscaton » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:09 pm

JMac1 wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
sunsfever68 wrote:

think that is a very underrated part of the signing.

We all wanted a Porzingis/Len front line

Well Len can shoot from deep and has range. you let Chandler play the 5 and you have Len slide from the 5 to the 4.

you can do kieff/len
kieff/chandler
Len/chandler


Playing Len at PF has got to be a joke? Trying to unaturally mold him into some type of Stretch 4 would hamper his long term development as a center and he still needs to develop a reliable post game. Our offense would suffer


That's your opinion, but it seems like mine is more in line with the people that matter.

What is that supposed to mean?
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2039 » by ShawnBronald » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:09 pm

PassWarden wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/616377753797984256[/tweet]

Kennedy RT'ed


So did Dave King.

He's just some random guy trying to get the scoop on a 50/50 decision (and he picked the favorite!). If LMA signs with the Spurs, he will claim to have reported it first. If not, he'll simply say he got inaccurate info and no one will care. Sad move on his part, I guarantee he has no source and LMA hasn't made up his mind yet.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2040 » by WTFsunsFTW » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:10 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
sunsfever68 wrote:

think that is a very underrated part of the signing.

We all wanted a Porzingis/Len front line

Well Len can shoot from deep and has range. you let Chandler play the 5 and you have Len slide from the 5 to the 4.

you can do kieff/len
kieff/chandler
Len/chandler


Playing Len at PF has got to be a joke? Trying to unaturally mold him into some type of Stretch 4 would hamper his long term development as a center and he still needs to develop a reliable post game. Our offense would suffer just so we could have a twin towers defensive frontcourt

He has a sweet stroke and was shooting 3s in college. Not sure how unnatural this is to him. I can't understand how playing next to Chandler would create any suffering.

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