NBA Trade Thread #13

[Bulls Fan 23]

I’d normally not take a late 1st for Coby but this draft is a different animal. It’s loaded with starter level talent from 20-30. Plenty of scoring guards like Coby as a replacement too.

However, I’m good resigning Coby cheap.

I agree. I'm hoping the Portland pick conveys this year and I want AK to get some second rounders this year.

Some good players will be there in the second round.

[WindyCityBorn]

I’d normally not take a late 1st for Coby but this draft is a different animal. It’s loaded with starter level talent from 20-30. Plenty of scoring guards like Coby as a replacement too.

However, I’m good resigning Coby cheap.

I think it time to move on from Coby tbh. He’s not a valuable asset.

[Chi town]

I’d normally not take a late 1st for Coby but this draft is a different animal. It’s loaded with starter level talent from 20-30. Plenty of scoring guards like Coby as a replacement too.

However, I’m good resigning Coby cheap.

I think it time to move on from Coby tbh. He’s not a valuable asset.

Disagree. He’s a depressed value asset due to his injuries.

You don’t sell low on that. You sign him cheap and then sell high after he’s healthy and plays well again.

[GuardianEnzo]

I’d normally not take a late 1st for Coby but this draft is a different animal. It’s loaded with starter level talent from 20-30. Plenty of scoring guards like Coby as a replacement too.

However, I’m good resigning Coby cheap.

I think it time to move on from Coby tbh. He’s not a valuable asset.

Disagree. He’s a depressed value asset due to his injuries.

You don’t sell low on that. You sign him cheap and then sell high after he’s healthy and plays well again.

Yes, unless there's some org out there willing to spunk star money on him. That's the risk you take with that approach, you may lose him for nothing.

[sco]

I think it time to move on from Coby tbh. He’s not a valuable asset.

Disagree. He’s a depressed value asset due to his injuries.

You don’t sell low on that. You sign him cheap and then sell high after he’s healthy and plays well again.

Yes, unless there's some org out there willing to spunk star money on him. That's the risk you take with that approach, you may lose him for nothing.

Yeah, that's the debate. Would people prefer to?
1) Trade Coby for a (unprotected, but unlikely lottery) 1st and expirings
2) Wait and there's what I'll call a 50/50 chance of signing him for 4/$80 or losing him for nothing

The big unknown which impacts both is how much it would cost to find an equivalent player in FA? Or better yet a better (fitting) player?

Somewhat either way, we're still a team without a true (contending level) #1 option, and not addressing that first is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. And that leads me toward #1, because, if not at the deadline, then sometime in the next season, one of those guys will become available and we'll need as many assets as possible to get him.

[Chi town]

Coby’s ceiling is 4/80 if he continues as is with the injury issues.

[boozapalooza]

The trade rumors with Houston are gonna pick up…they’re desperate for a vet PG. The FVV absence is glaring for them. KD isnt getting any younger, they can’t waste this season.

Tre just showed them firsthand what he can do. Coby makes sense too. The salaries are super reasonable.

HOU has 2027 pick swap rights with BKN and 2027 PHX 1st. I’d target either of those. BKN one is obviously super valuable.

Another idea could be expiring for expiring - Coby/Ayo for Eason. They’ve committed long term to Jabari, not sure how Eason fits long term for them. Tre at 2/16 remaining might make most sense in a swap - what a value contract and tremendous fit for them. Our focus would need to be resigning Eason, who I think would be an awesome fit next to Buz.

Just feels like theres too much here that makes sense for both sides.

[sco]

The trade rumors with Houston are gonna pick up…they’re desperate for a vet PG. The FVV absence is glaring for them. KD isnt getting any younger, they can’t waste this season.

Tre just showed them firsthand what he can do. Coby makes sense too. The salaries are super reasonable.

HOU has 2027 pick swap rights with BKN and 2027 PHX 1st. I’d target either of those. BKN one is obviously super valuable.

Another idea could be expiring for expiring - Coby/Ayo for Eason. They’ve committed long term to Jabari, not sure how Eason fits long term for them. Tre at 2/16 remaining might make most sense in a swap - what a value contract and tremendous fit for them. Our focus would need to be resigning Eason, who I think would be an awesome fit next to Buz.

Just feels like theres too much here that makes sense for both sides.

Eason for Coby would be a big win in my book.

[Chi town]

The trade rumors with Houston are gonna pick up…they’re desperate for a vet PG. The FVV absence is glaring for them. KD isnt getting any younger, they can’t waste this season.

Tre just showed them firsthand what he can do. Coby makes sense too. The salaries are super reasonable.

HOU has 2027 pick swap rights with BKN and 2027 PHX 1st. I’d target either of those. BKN one is obviously super valuable.

Another idea could be expiring for expiring - Coby/Ayo for Eason. They’ve committed long term to Jabari, not sure how Eason fits long term for them. Tre at 2/16 remaining might make most sense in a swap - what a value contract and tremendous fit for them. Our focus would need to be resigning Eason, who I think would be an awesome fit next to Buz.

Just feels like theres too much here that makes sense for both sides.

Eason for Coby would be a big win in my book.

Love Eason buts he’s always hurt and wants a huge payday. Easy pass.

[sco]

I see Raptors are looking to get rid of Quickley. His deal is bad, but he's playable and is a better defender (albeit average) than White. Would anyone consider IQ for White/Williams?

[Chi town]

Per WT Wolves want to lower their tax bill. More going out that coming in. 24M in lux tax right now. Paid 90M tax last year.

Tre or Coby can both help with that.

Rob D 6.6
Conley 10.8
Beringer 4.2
Ingles 3.6
TSJ 2.7
Bones 2.5
There is def a deal there. Wolves don’t want to trade rotation players so DVV is off the table. Conley is toast. Easy to get 25M there for Coby’s 12 which lowers the bill and clear out more money to resign Coby.

[Avery W]

Sam Amick says in The Athletic that teams are expecting Giannis talks to heat up in the offseason and might hold on to assets this deadline accordingly.

[Infinity2152]

I see Raptors are looking to get rid of Quickley. His deal is bad, but he's playable and is a better defender (albeit average) than White. Would anyone consider IQ for White/Williams?

I would. I consider Pat basically burnt $18 mill for years. Would rather pay Quickley $32.5 mill the next three years and have the extra roster spot plus $5.5 mill to sign a free agent than pay Coby $20 mill and Pat $18 mill next three years.

Pat's probably more like $14-$16 mill burnt money, but still.

Giannis seems like one of the most loyal players in the league. Recently came out and said he would never request a trade. Last week in a blowout, Bucks fans were booing the team while Giannis was on the court. He booed them back, never done that before. What happens when the city you're being loyal to, the fans are booing you? And you're elite, the only reason there's a hope here. That situation might look cold now, but it could heat up fast.

[Dan Z]

Sam Amick says in The Athletic that teams are expecting Giannis talks to heat up in the offseason and might hold on to assets this deadline accordingly.

Too bad the Bulls don't have more assets to work with. They could've had the New Orleans pick (although I'd probably argue that they should keep it).

[WindyCityBorn]

I see Raptors are looking to get rid of Quickley. His deal is bad, but he's playable and is a better defender (albeit average) than White. Would anyone consider IQ for White/Williams?

No.

[WindyCityBorn]

Sam Amick says in The Athletic that teams are expecting Giannis talks to heat up in the offseason and might hold on to assets this deadline accordingly.

Giannis would never agree to come here. He wants to win another championship. And we don’t have the assets unless we are sending Giddey and Matas. And then we would still suck.

[Dez]

Coby’s ceiling is 4/80 if he continues as is with the injury issues.

He can try get that 4/80 somewhere else, he's got to go before the trade deadline for the best offer.

[Indomitable]

Coby’s ceiling is 4/80 if he continues as is with the injury issues.

He can try get that 4/80 somewhere else, he's got to go before the trade deadline for the best offer.

Do you really believe this will happen

[Dan Z]

Coby’s ceiling is 4/80 if he continues as is with the injury issues.

He can try get that 4/80 somewhere else, he's got to go before the trade deadline for the best offer.

Do you really believe this will happen

I doubt he's worth much at the moment.

[Indomitable]

He can try get that 4/80 somewhere else, he's got to go before the trade deadline for the best offer.

Do you really believe this will happen

I doubt he's worth much at the moment.

The Bulls have no plan and are not truly building towards a type of team. They will not do anything out of fear.