OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[AllanH20]

[ibraheim718]

What is wrong with that Pat Smith lady? Does she have a speech problem?

[AllanH20]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/755216803241033728[/tweet]

[CJackson]

Freaking Chachi!

[CJackson]

You really can't make this stuff up

Reality TV villain Omarosa named as Donald Trump's new director of African-American outreach

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/omarosa-donald-trump-director-african-american-outreach-article-1.2715927

[CJackson]

[Greenie]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/755052454237114368[/tweet]

The implosion, that is. What a spectacle.

Ain't nobody fuqing with Trump Trump.

Bill's wife is an issue for me too though

[Capn'O]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/755052454237114368[/tweet]

The implosion, that is. What a spectacle.

Ain't nobody fuqing with Trump Trump.

Bill's wife is an issue for me too though

I get that. I'll probably vote for Stein. Depends on the polling when we're in close.

[AllanH20]

The Republicans have done such a great job of crapping all over Hillary that people are starting to believe that her mistakes are anything out of the ordinary for a politician in D.C. You know how many email/document scandals involving someone in the white house or congress I can pull out right now? A lot.

No one gave a sh*t when it happened with Bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

Her record and the policies that she stands for are actually quite solid. She agrees with Bernie on about 95% of the issues. I really don't see the big deal is. And no Bernie wasn't outside of the 'establishment'. Some Bernie supporters (and I would have preferred him to Hillary for a few policy issues) are starting to act like Trump supporters and paying very little attention to policies.

[CJackson]

The Republicans have done such a great job of crapping all over Hillary that people are starting to believe that her mistakes are anything out of the ordinary for a politician in D.C. You know how many email/document scandals involving someone in the white house or congress I can pull out right now? A lot.

No one gave a sh*t when it happened with Bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

Her record and the policies that she stands for are actually quite solid. She agrees with Bernie on about 95% of the issues. I really don't see the big deal is. And no Bernie wasn't outside of the 'establishment'. Some Bernie supporters (and I would have preferred him to Hillary for a few policy issues) are starting to act like Trump supporters and paying very little attention to policies.

I find it telling that every rabid Trump supporter's response to what a wacko Trump is results in a shrill moan about how much they hate Hillary. It is like hating Hillary is proof that Trump is not a completely idiotic tool. Very strange form of logic.

Hillary is more boring than that and not the anti-Christ. And she actually is an adult. She may lust after power, but Trump is truly insane. An insane man is a threat unlike anything Clinton represents. Hating her is no excuse for wanting that guy in power. He is a completely unhinged weirdo who can't be trusted as commander in chief. It is too dangerous. He'll kill us all.

[Greenie]

The implosion, that is. What a spectacle.

Ain't nobody fuqing with Trump Trump.

Bill's wife is an issue for me too though

I get that. I'll probably vote for Stein. Depends on the polling when we're in close.

I have no clue who I'm voting for. Is Bernie at all a possibility?

[AllanH20]

The Republicans have done such a great job of crapping all over Hillary that people are starting to believe that her mistakes are anything out of the ordinary for a politician in D.C. You know how many email/document scandals involving someone in the white house or congress I can pull out right now? A lot.

No one gave a sh*t when it happened with Bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

Her record and the policies that she stands for are actually quite solid. She agrees with Bernie on about 95% of the issues. I really don't see the big deal is. And no Bernie wasn't outside of the 'establishment'. Some Bernie supporters (and I would have preferred him to Hillary for a few policy issues) are starting to act like Trump supporters and paying very little attention to policies.

I find it telling that every rabid Trump supporter's response to what a wacko Trump is results in a shrill moan about how much they hate Hillary. It is like hating Hillary is proof that Trump is not a completely idiotic tool. Very strange form of logic.

Hillary is more boring than that and not the anti-Christ. And she actually is an adult. She may lust after power, but Trump is truly insane. An insane man is a threat unlike anything Clinton represents. Hating her is no excuse for wanting that guy in power. He is a completely unhinged weirdo who can't be trusted as commander in chief. It is too dangerous. He'll kill us all.

I agree. I mean..she has her faults but I find it infuriating that some Bernie supporters want to vote for a third party candidate. I wish our political system was a multi party system but that's not the case so a vote for a third party candidate is effectively a vote for Trump, especially if it's for Jill Stein.

[Capn'O]

The Republicans have done such a great job of crapping all over Hillary that people are starting to believe that her mistakes are anything out of the ordinary for a politician in D.C. You know how many email/document scandals involving someone in the white house or congress I can pull out right now? A lot.

No one gave a sh*t when it happened with Bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

Her record and the policies that she stands for are actually quite solid. She agrees with Bernie on about 95% of the issues. I really don't see the big deal is. And no Bernie wasn't outside of the 'establishment'. Some Bernie supporters (and I would have preferred him to Hillary for a few policy issues) are starting to act like Trump supporters and paying very little attention to policies.

I find it telling that every rabid Trump supporter's response to what a wacko Trump is results in a shrill moan about how much they hate Hillary. It is like hating Hillary is proof that Trump is not a completely idiotic tool. Very strange form of logic.

Hillary is more boring than that and not the anti-Christ. And she actually is an adult. She may lust after power, but Trump is truly insane. An insane man is a threat unlike anything Clinton represents. Hating her is no excuse for wanting that guy in power. He is a completely unhinged weirdo who can't be trusted as commander in chief. It is too dangerous. He'll kill us all.

I agree. I mean..she has her faults but I find it infuriating that some Bernie supporters want to vote for a third party candidate. I wish our political system was a multi party system but that's not the case so a vote for a third party candidate is effectively a vote for Trump, especially if it's for Jill Stein.

So infuriating that you can't respond directly to them, eh?

A vote for a candidate is always a vote for that candidate. I laid it out pretty clear that my vote for her would be conditional on a confidently projected Clinton win in my state.

[Greenie]

I will vote for who I want to vote for. IT"S MY VOTE. NEITHER TRUMP NOR HILARY can have it.

[AllanH20]

I find it telling that every rabid Trump supporter's response to what a wacko Trump is results in a shrill moan about how much they hate Hillary. It is like hating Hillary is proof that Trump is not a completely idiotic tool. Very strange form of logic.

Hillary is more boring than that and not the anti-Christ. And she actually is an adult. She may lust after power, but Trump is truly insane. An insane man is a threat unlike anything Clinton represents. Hating her is no excuse for wanting that guy in power. He is a completely unhinged weirdo who can't be trusted as commander in chief. It is too dangerous. He'll kill us all.

I agree. I mean..she has her faults but I find it infuriating that some Bernie supporters want to vote for a third party candidate. I wish our political system was a multi party system but that's not the case so a vote for a third party candidate is effectively a vote for Trump, especially if it's for Jill Stein.

So infuriating that you can't respond directly to them, eh?

A vote for a candidate is always a vote for that candidate. I laid it out pretty clear that my vote for her would be conditional on a confidently projected Clinton win in my state.

Which is why I actually didn't have a big problem with your post, although I would be wary of polls, especially in a unique election like this one where pollsters are not sure what the turnout will look like. The point I made about Jill Stein was to differentiate that a vote for Stein would be taking away a vote from Hillary for sure whereas a vote for Johnson would be taking a vote away from either Hillary or Trump.

That post was directed more generally at all Bernie supporters who treat Hillary like she's the devil. He lost, get over it, they're not that different.

And I disagree, a vote for Jill Stein would be a vote for Jill Stein if this was a multi party system. A vote for Jill Stein next election is effectively half a vote for Trump.

[CJackson]

The Republicans have done such a great job of crapping all over Hillary that people are starting to believe that her mistakes are anything out of the ordinary for a politician in D.C. You know how many email/document scandals involving someone in the white house or congress I can pull out right now? A lot.

No one gave a sh*t when it happened with Bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

Her record and the policies that she stands for are actually quite solid. She agrees with Bernie on about 95% of the issues. I really don't see the big deal is. And no Bernie wasn't outside of the 'establishment'. Some Bernie supporters (and I would have preferred him to Hillary for a few policy issues) are starting to act like Trump supporters and paying very little attention to policies.

I find it telling that every rabid Trump supporter's response to what a wacko Trump is results in a shrill moan about how much they hate Hillary. It is like hating Hillary is proof that Trump is not a completely idiotic tool. Very strange form of logic.

Hillary is more boring than that and not the anti-Christ. And she actually is an adult. She may lust after power, but Trump is truly insane. An insane man is a threat unlike anything Clinton represents. Hating her is no excuse for wanting that guy in power. He is a completely unhinged weirdo who can't be trusted as commander in chief. It is too dangerous. He'll kill us all.

I agree. I mean..she has her faults but I find it infuriating that some Bernie supporters want to vote for a third party candidate. I wish our political system was a multi party system but that's not the case so a vote for a third party candidate is effectively a vote for Trump, especially if it's for Jill Stein.

I totally agree. While I don't hold back on saying what a horror Trump is I'm still being respectful of each person's voting choice. I don't want to tell anyone not to vote on an alternative candidate, but I will never forget how voting for Nader gave the forces of evil enough of an open door to steal the election with their hanging chads in Dubya's brother's home state. If there was one event in the past twenty five years that is most responsible for the destruction of electoral integrity that was it. It proved you can steal an election in America, even the presidency.

So I do implore those who say they don't like Hillary to look at the bigger picture because Trump is truly the worst candidate in our lifetimes and he represents a true danger to global safety. People who know him are coming out and speaking up and saying they don't want his finger on the button. This is not something to play fast and loose with.

Don't give the White House to Trump even if you don't like Clinton. She is still going to handle her duties with enough competency to not be the primary cause of systemic breakdown. Trump is for sale. And he has the attention span of a fruit fly. He makes decisions based on mood and personal feelings alone. He is completely unqualified to be president. She is regardless of how anyone feels.

[CJackson]

I find it telling that every rabid Trump supporter's response to what a wacko Trump is results in a shrill moan about how much they hate Hillary. It is like hating Hillary is proof that Trump is not a completely idiotic tool. Very strange form of logic.

Hillary is more boring than that and not the anti-Christ. And she actually is an adult. She may lust after power, but Trump is truly insane. An insane man is a threat unlike anything Clinton represents. Hating her is no excuse for wanting that guy in power. He is a completely unhinged weirdo who can't be trusted as commander in chief. It is too dangerous. He'll kill us all.

I agree. I mean..she has her faults but I find it infuriating that some Bernie supporters want to vote for a third party candidate. I wish our political system was a multi party system but that's not the case so a vote for a third party candidate is effectively a vote for Trump, especially if it's for Jill Stein.

So infuriating that you can't respond directly to them, eh?

A vote for a candidate is always a vote for that candidate. I laid it out pretty clear that my vote for her would be conditional on a confidently projected Clinton win in my state.

Sure, but some won't think it through like you and may be in a different state than you.

[CJackson]

Anyone watching Nightline right now?

Remember the guy who wrote Art of the Deal?

They just had a clip with him saying Trump has more sociopathic traits than anyone he has ever seen in his lifetime.

Think about it. This is the guy who actually wrote Trump's publishing claim to fame and spent hundreds of hours meeting with and researching Trump and saw him in action in ways no reporter ever could.

Trump is a rapist who paid off Ivanna to shut her mouth so hating Clinton is not an impressive emotional response when you're dealing with a guy who is a predator on every level, personally and professionally.

[BallSacBounce]

Don King Says Trump Needs to ‘Change the System’ to Beat Hillary, Republican Establishment ‘Back Stabbers’
www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/18/exclusive-don-king-says-trump-needs-to-change-the-system-to-beat-hillary-republican-establishment-back-stabbers/

Trump supporter King said that Trump cannot be controlled by political interests and must therefore continue to wage an anti-establishment campaign that throws out the old playbook.

“Change the system,” King said when asked what Trump must do in the general election. “Stick to that battle plan because his own party is now stabbing him in the back.”

“In the old days — I’m from Cleveland — in the old days if they spat in your face and the whole time they want to kick you in the face? Back stabbers.”



Trump’s populist nationalist campaign has created a haven here in Cleveland for different kinds of Republican supporters from all walks of life and has mostly expelled the Establishment forces that usually control Republican conventions.

Stop doing the robo-vote thing. Open your eyes. 90%+ Democratic vote has gotten the black community absolutely nowhere. This man will bring sorely needed jobs back to this country. He's fighting the Globalist forces that are ripping this country apart and he needs your help.

The Globalists lose America and they are done. They will pull out all the stops to fight against him and you are seeing that now. They can't very well say cutting off job competition from illegal immigration and stopping unfair trade practices that suck jobs out of this country will be bad for Americans, they would be ridiculed as idiots so they cry out racist, its their only hope to get the Globalist Hillary elected. Don't be fooled. The only thing she cares about is power she doesn't give a damn about the people of this country.

his business history contradicts everything you said he would do..

As a businessman he does what he needs to do which is what is best for his company.

As President he will make sure our first priority is doing what's best for the citizens of this country. It's the whole premise of his campaign. Different focus.

It's the reason why the Crony Capitalist Republicans fought so hard against him. They have a lot to lose. As does everyone involved in the free trade open / borders crowd. He's done everything he wanted to do in the field of business and now he wants to give back. You can believe him or not I can understand it's hard to trust anyone nowadays. It seems like no one gives a damn. With the present course the country is being gutted. We need something different.

This isn't some asswipe saying voodoo economics, like what we usually get from politicians. He's talking about better trade agreements so countries don't take advantage of us sucking jobs out of the U.S., doing something to stop illegal immigration so more jobs are available for Americans at better wages and ending visa abuse where companies bring in foreign workers many times replacing American workers permanently.

He also prefers a more hands off approach regarding military intervention. Haven't we had enough of the endless wars? We can use that money at home.

He's also the only one taking on the medical field. He wants to...

7. Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products. Congress will need the courage to step away from the special interests and do what is right for America. Though the pharmaceutical industry is in the private sector, drug companies provide a public service. Allowing consumers access to imported, safe and dependable drugs from overseas will bring more options to consumers.

It's absolutely obscene that our own drug companies gouge the U.S. customers. No one else talks about it because they are bought and paid for by the pharmaceuticals. It's a proposal that will lower healthcare costs.

[Greenie]

I voted for Nader too...