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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2141 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu Jan 9, 2025 9:54 pm

drsd wrote:
Skybox wrote:
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, DEN 25 frp
DET sends: Malik Beasley, Paul Reed

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I love, love, love this trade for Orlando. It nearly guarantees a top-4 seed, and the Magic should dominate round-1 and be a real threat to make the ECFs.

Suggs/Black/Joseph
Caldwell-Pope/Beasley/Harris
F-Wagner/da Silva/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/Reed
Bitadze/Carter (Reed and Isaac as the 3rd-stringer Cs)


1sts last year were only traded for quality players with multiple years of control, or stars (Siakam/Harden). Why overpay based off that? That's the market, we are not trading a 1st for a non-star rental just because we have 2 firsts. They aren't burning a hole in our pocket. I'm not spending a 1st to get off of Cole's next year expiring contract, it's not a big deal.

We should offer that package for a guy like Coby White. If that works OK, if not just hold or buy some cheap shooting with seconds.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2142 » by Skybox » Thu Jan 9, 2025 10:31 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
drsd wrote:
Skybox wrote:
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, DEN 25 frp
DET sends: Malik Beasley, Paul Reed

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I love, love, love this trade for Orlando. It nearly guarantees a top-4 seed, and the Magic should dominate round-1 and be a real threat to make the ECFs.

Suggs/Black/Joseph
Caldwell-Pope/Beasley/Harris
F-Wagner/da Silva/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/Reed
Bitadze/Carter (Reed and Isaac as the 3rd-stringer Cs)


1sts last year were only traded for quality players with multiple years of control, or stars (Siakam/Harden). Why overpay based off that? That's the market, we are not trading a 1st for a non-star rental just because we have 2 firsts. They aren't burning a hole in our pocket. I'm not spending a 1st to get off of Cole's next year expiring contract, it's not a big deal.

We should offer that package for a guy like Coby White. If that works OK, if not just hold or buy some cheap shooting with seconds.


If that'll get Coby White...of course
or Sexton or Simons, imo
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2143 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jan 9, 2025 11:48 pm

Cole, Jett & Denver pick should be able to get you something of quality. Whether the FO has the balls to do it is another issue.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#2144 » by basketballRob » Thu Jan 9, 2025 11:59 pm

Day'Ron Sharpe would be interesting as a 3rd center. He still needs more development.

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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2145 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:50 am

Idiosyncratic wrote:
drsd wrote:
Skybox wrote:
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, DEN 25 frp
DET sends: Malik Beasley, Paul Reed

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I love, love, love this trade for Orlando. It nearly guarantees a top-4 seed, and the Magic should dominate round-1 and be a real threat to make the ECFs.

Suggs/Black/Joseph
Caldwell-Pope/Beasley/Harris
F-Wagner/da Silva/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/Reed
Bitadze/Carter (Reed and Isaac as the 3rd-stringer Cs)


1sts last year were only traded for quality players with multiple years of control, or stars (Siakam/Harden). Why overpay based off that? That's the market, we are not trading a 1st for a non-star rental just because we have 2 firsts. They aren't burning a hole in our pocket. I'm not spending a 1st to get off of Cole's next year expiring contract, it's not a big deal.

We should offer that package for a guy like Coby White. If that works OK, if not just hold or buy some cheap shooting with seconds.


There is less than Zero percent chance any deal like this ever happens. Pistons Phone would be slammed down in a split second. Beasley has family there and is a big leader on and off the court. Pistons and Beas going long term and been in the talks a while now. Cade loves the dude.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2146 » by drsd » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:34 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:There is less than Zero percent chance any deal like this ever happens. Pistons Phone would be slammed down in a split second. Beasley has family there and is a big leader on and off the court. Pistons and Beas going long term and been in the talks a while now. Cade loves the dude.


I agree with you, but I think there is a Houstan and Bos/Mem 2025SRP for Reed pick to be done. That would make the Magic better. At no cost.
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Post#2147 » by dsg2021 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:22 pm

Beasley made sense even years ago and it has never happened like I hoped. I gave up on it. Again, there is something to this Magic culture at least. It really is paying off to block any incoming player who is not a plus-defender.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2148 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:44 pm

drsd wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:There is less than Zero percent chance any deal like this ever happens. Pistons Phone would be slammed down in a split second. Beasley has family there and is a big leader on and off the court. Pistons and Beas going long term and been in the talks a while now. Cade loves the dude.


I agree with you, but I think there is a Houstan and Bos/Mem 2025SRP for Reed pick to be done. That would make the Magic better. At no cost.


Honestly, I was as excited about unloading Cole's remaining year at $12m and getting Reed as another versatile big body. Beasley, like many fantasy trade targets is playing way over his own career level and likely angling to cash in for it...not what we need, imo. Would be a nice rental, but there'd be a good chance someone would want to overpay next summer (not us, imo).
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Post#2149 » by Magicman125 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:37 pm

on the Trades and Transactions board someone suggested we get Beal, Nurkic, and Grayson Allen. No thank you to that, but I'd move Cole + a 2nd for Grayson Allen. Maybe throw Houstan in too so we're not taking on too much more salary for future years.
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Post#2150 » by basketballRob » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:27 pm

Magicman125 wrote:on the Trades and Transactions board someone suggested we get Beal, Nurkic, and Grayson Allen. No thank you to that, but I'd move Cole + a 2nd for Grayson Allen. Maybe throw Houstan in too so we're not taking on too much more salary for future years.
We already have KCP

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Post#2151 » by three3d » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:02 pm

The teams level of success without Paolo, Franz, and Mo to a degree was probably more bad than good in the grand scheme of things. We all expected the wheels to fall off and that the season was over. But to most people’s surprise the guys we had left held us together and kept our heads above water probably enough for the FO to feel right about the decisions made.

But I personally don’t feel those decisions were right. In fact it makes me even more frustrated when I factor in how flawed yet still how good this team has been. This misfit group without a point guard, without a confident reliable 3 point shooter/shooters has stayed relevant and beat teams they probably shouldn’t have beaten while losing to teams they shouldn’t have. How much better can they be with a few added pieces? How close are we? What we’ve watched them be able to do is a reason , is THE REASON the front office has to do something. We are better than we thought, but not near as good as we can be.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2152 » by Residual-Heat » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:04 pm

Howard+Harris+ a 1st for Coby White would be a really nice trade for the Magic. Love his fit and contract. Decent size, gives effort on defense, can handle the ball and run the offense off the bench, can shoot the 3 at a good % with good volume. Realistically, thats probably best case scenario for us.

We'd still have Cole, but he can be traded in a separate deal or in the offseason when he's on an expiring contract.

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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2153 » by Idiosyncratic » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:48 pm

Magicman125 wrote:on the Trades and Transactions board someone suggested we get Beal, Nurkic, and Grayson Allen. No thank you to that, but I'd move Cole + a 2nd for Grayson Allen. Maybe throw Houstan in too so we're not taking on too much more salary for future years.


I would be fine with that for Allen. Very similar production to Cam Johnson for a fraction of the trade price.

I think for the Suns they only move him if they are looking out of the playoffs and want to save money though. Otherwise given they won't get much outside of salary relief it probably would be more of an offseason move.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2154 » by Idiosyncratic » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:55 pm

Residual-Heat wrote:Howard+Harris+ a 1st for Coby White would be a really nice trade for the Magic. Love his fit and contract. Decent size, gives effort on defense, can handle the ball and run the offense off the bench, can shoot the 3 at a good % with good volume. Realistically, thats probably best case scenario for us.

We'd still have Cole, but he can be traded in a separate deal or in the offseason when he's on an expiring contract.

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If that is the price for Coby I would make that move. It's a more valuable package than the Mavs traded for 1.5 years of PJ Washington and Gafford last year, so it seems fair on paper to me.

Would much rather extend Coby than the Sexton/Simons options also. Could also see Bulls wanting to keep him longterm, in that case it just isn't going to happen, but as always, it takes two to tango.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2155 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:32 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
drsd wrote:
Skybox wrote:
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, DEN 25 frp
DET sends: Malik Beasley, Paul Reed

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I love, love, love this trade for Orlando. It nearly guarantees a top-4 seed, and the Magic should dominate round-1 and be a real threat to make the ECFs.

Suggs/Black/Joseph
Caldwell-Pope/Beasley/Harris
F-Wagner/da Silva/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/Reed
Bitadze/Carter (Reed and Isaac as the 3rd-stringer Cs)


1sts last year were only traded for quality players with multiple years of control, or stars (Siakam/Harden). Why overpay based off that? That's the market, we are not trading a 1st for a non-star rental just because we have 2 firsts. They aren't burning a hole in our pocket. I'm not spending a 1st to get off of Cole's next year expiring contract, it's not a big deal.


Ironic that a few other posters deemed Beasley nearly untouchable and in DET for the long haul, Cade's BFF, etc... :lol:

That's RealGM I guess
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2156 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:37 pm

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Magicman125 wrote:on the Trades and Transactions board someone suggested we get Beal, Nurkic, and Grayson Allen. No thank you to that, but I'd move Cole + a 2nd for Grayson Allen. Maybe throw Houstan in too so we're not taking on too much more salary for future years.
We already have KCP

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Absolutely...Grayson is another overpaid, single tool player and not at all what we need...ESPECIALLY when you look at his contract:

3 years after this one at $17-19m...just no, KCP is a much better overall player. Grayson's a plus defender but KCP is ***.

Get a ball handler who can score and stop pitching overpaid duplicates. Cole is closer to a solution than Grayson.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#2157 » by Idiosyncratic » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:45 pm

Skybox wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:
drsd wrote:
I love, love, love this trade for Orlando. It nearly guarantees a top-4 seed, and the Magic should dominate round-1 and be a real threat to make the ECFs.

Suggs/Black/Joseph
Caldwell-Pope/Beasley/Harris
F-Wagner/da Silva/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/Reed
Bitadze/Carter (Reed and Isaac as the 3rd-stringer Cs)


1sts last year were only traded for quality players with multiple years of control, or stars (Siakam/Harden). Why overpay based off that? That's the market, we are not trading a 1st for a non-star rental just because we have 2 firsts. They aren't burning a hole in our pocket. I'm not spending a 1st to get off of Cole's next year expiring contract, it's not a big deal.


Ironic that a few other posters deemed Beasley nearly untouchable and in DET for the long haul, Cade's BFF, etc... :lol:

That's RealGM I guess


I think because Detroit is trying to win, unlikely they move anybody.

If he was on a tanking team though for instance, he would not garner a 1st. Great offseason signing though. Fraction of Hield's cost to be the same guy.

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