Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[KillMonger]

I just cant get behind drafting Hampton. I just have no interest in anymore guys with question marks on the jump shot. I heard he was changing his shot mechanics recently. Recipe for disaster. He might turn out to be good but I really dont want to pick him when there should be better options on the board

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better?ehhh...maybe....at our slot there isn't really a flawless prospect

[drsd]

Some mock drafts have either of Vassell or Nesmith. If the Magic is confident one of these two is available at #15, I hope the pick is not traded.

If both are available: what a tough choice!


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[drsd]

Thoughts on Theo Maledon as a draft-N-stash pick at #15?

The Magic will need PG depth in 2021, and thus this could make sense.

[IllMagic04]

I just cant get behind drafting Hampton. I just have no interest in anymore guys with question marks on the jump shot. I heard he was changing his shot mechanics recently. Recipe for disaster. He might turn out to be good but I really dont want to pick him when there should be better options on the board

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better?ehhh...maybe....at our slot there isn't really a flawless prospect

Of course not. Theres not a flawless player in this draft. Can the flaw not be shooting though?

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[KillMonger]

I just cant get behind drafting Hampton. I just have no interest in anymore guys with question marks on the jump shot. I heard he was changing his shot mechanics recently. Recipe for disaster. He might turn out to be good but I really dont want to pick him when there should be better options on the board

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better?ehhh...maybe....at our slot there isn't really a flawless prospect

Of course not. Theres not a flawless player in this draft. Can the flaw not be shooting though?

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i hear you....me personally if i'm looking from prospect to prospect i'm more inclined to take the player with a higher ceiling as i don't really think anyone we pick at 15 is going to be a big impact right away....hampton has a higher ceiling than most around our slot and he doesn't really overlap with fultz....Bad analogy but you'll get the gist....it's like do you want JJ Redick or Jrue Holiday? JJ is the better shooter but Jrue is the better player....

It's totally subjective though, the better shooter won't necessarily be the better player and vice versa....however shooting is at a premium these days, i will tell you this though i am tired of just drafting athletes.....took a turn in the right direction drafting Chuma last year so lets see what they do this draft...Hammond and Weltman were both scouts so they "should" know what to look for but they do have a type

[Knightro]

Thoughts on Theo Maledon as a draft-N-stash pick at #15?

The Magic will need PG depth in 2021, and thus this could make sense.

Seems like Maledon is set on coming over immediately.

The only guy in the 15 range who it feels like could realistically be stashed for a year is Pokuševski.

[Knightro]

Theo Maledon and Josh Green are locks for WeHam. No translatable skill, all measurements.

This is a little harsh

Yes, they are both long bois, but they both have skill IMO.

Green shot 36% from 3, 78% from the line and also averaged 2.6 AST to just 1.6 TO as a wing. Plus he made significant impact as a freshman defender. I know I'm higher on him than most people, but I think there's a really good foundation there. I'd be absolutely thrilled to take him at 15 and think he could definitely become Fournier's replacement in 2021-2022.

Maledon I think is a guy who is perhaps being unfairly dinged for choosing to go the complete opposite route of Killian Hayes (who I obviously really like a lot too).

Hayes opted to play for a bad team who stuck him on the ball and essentially just let him spam pick and rolls. That was great for KH's individual success, sure, but his teams were not very good overall.

Maledon opted to play for a really good team (the No. 1 team in the top French league) and while he was put into much more of a pick your spots kind of role, I also think he developed some good habits in the process.

One thing that stands out to me when watching Maledon film is that you can really see where he benefited from the structure of being on a good team. Defensive rotations, defensive communications, hard cuts, extra passes, etc. Maledon does a lot of that stuff really well.

My main concern with Maledon is that he was such a low volume player because of his role that it makes projecting how he would react to bigger usage kind of difficult. And as we know in the modern NBA, it's tough to have success with low volume players offensively period, but especially ones who are going to be tasked with actually having the ball in their hands.

[yoyojw17]

Theo Maledon and Josh Green are locks for WeHam. No translatable skill, all measurements.

This is a little harsh

Yes, they are both long bois, but they both have skill IMO.

Green shot 36% from 3, 78% from the line and also averaged 2.6 AST to just 1.6 TO as a wing. Plus he made significant impact as a freshman defender. I know I'm higher on him than most people, but I think there's a really good foundation there. I'd be absolutely thrilled to take him at 15 and think he could definitely become Fournier's replacement in 2021-2022.

Maledon I think is a guy who is perhaps being unfairly dinged for choosing to go the complete opposite route of Killian Hayes (who I obviously really like a lot too).

Hayes opted to play for a bad team who stuck him on the ball and essentially just let him spam pick and rolls. That was great for KH's individual success, sure, but his teams were not very good overall.

Maledon opted to play for a really good team (the No. 1 team in the top French league) and while he was put into much more of a pick your spots kind of role, I also think he developed some good habits in the process.

One thing that stands out to me when watching Maledon film is that you can really see where he benefited from the structure of being on a good team. Defensive rotations, defensive communications, hard cuts, extra passes, etc. Maledon does a lot of that stuff really well.

My main concern with Maledon is that he was such a low volume player because of his role that it makes projecting how he would react to bigger usage kind of difficult. And as we know in the modern NBA, it's tough to have success with low volume players offensively period, but especially ones who are going to be tasked with actually having the ball in their hands.

I like em both.... Green is definintely a player i will follow no matter where he goes. After a slow start... he was shooting above 40% from three in the last 10 games... but he was very streaky... all or nothing in most games. but 6'6 215lb with a the potential to be an elite defender... the speed to defend 1-4... transition game... 3 pnt game will look great next to fultz and the rest of our team. Still a darkhorse for me

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[fendilim]

Hmu with kevin pelton warp stats

Curious to see how isaac and okeke ranked and what players this yr rank the same category

[cedric76]

League sources say the Magic are attempting to move up into the lottery by packaging this pick with Aaron Gordon. If they stay put, Maxey would potentially provide lottery value and immediately inject life as an energetic presence and a hard-nosed defender. Though Markelle Fultz’s resurgence makes for a nice story, he’s still yet to prove he can reliably shoot the ball. Maxey is further along as a scorer off the dribble, which could push Fultz into his ideal role as a supercharged Shaun Livingston.

[Def Swami]

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[Magic#1]

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It's interesting Hayes has only been listed as a pg but in his NBA.com bio he says he patterns his game after Manu and Harden. I could see Hayes being a target for us if we trade up and can't get a a guy like Edwards. I'm still skeptical of trying a two point guard system, but it is a trend that teams seem to be trying.

[Knightro]

League sources say the Magic are attempting to move up into the lottery by packaging this pick with Aaron Gordon.

Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer in his latest mock - https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

[Skin]

League sources say the Magic are attempting to move up into the lottery by packaging this pick with Aaron Gordon.

Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer in his latest mock - https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

Please be Edwards.

[Skin]

Any Robert Woodard fans out there???

[IllMagic04]

better?ehhh...maybe....at our slot there isn't really a flawless prospect

Of course not. Theres not a flawless player in this draft. Can the flaw not be shooting though?

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i hear you....me personally if i'm looking from prospect to prospect i'm more inclined to take the player with a higher ceiling as i don't really think anyone we pick at 15 is going to be a big impact right away....hampton has a higher ceiling than most around our slot and he doesn't really overlap with fultz....Bad analogy but you'll get the gist....it's like do you want JJ Redick or Jrue Holiday? JJ is the better shooter but Jrue is the better player....

It's totally subjective though, the better shooter won't necessarily be the better player and vice versa....however shooting is at a premium these days, i will tell you this though i am tired of just drafting athletes.....took a turn in the right direction drafting Chuma last year so lets see what they do this draft...Hammond and Weltman were both scouts so they "should" know what to look for but they do have a type

I got no faith in this front office. They havnt addressed our shoting in 3 drafts, 3 offseasons, or trade deadlines. Shoting has been an isuse since they took over abd they have done a total of nothing to address it. The quicker we fire these clowns the better.

Your premise I agree with. If we handnt done such a poor job adding shoting I might not be so deadset in my posestion. To me at somepoint you gotta start building a basketball team. If our future is Issac,Fultz Bamba ( a bleek future BTW) them we need sone shooting to go with that core cause thats not a offensive trio to say the least.

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[Xatticus]

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It's interesting Hayes has only been listed as a pg but in his NBA.com bio he says he patterns his game after Manu and Harden. I could see Hayes being a target for us if we trade up and can't get a a guy like Edwards. I'm still skeptical of trying a two point guard system, but it is a trend that teams seem to be trying.

Lineups with multiple facilitators is the new fad. They seem to be working well, so playmakers are in demand. There was already a shortage of them. I don't see Hayes as a PG. He's just not a good athlete. He has good size though. He landed on a team that let him dominate possessions with mixed results, so he has been labeled a point guard, but he is going to have a lot of trouble defending anyone with a good first step. He'd actually work well with Fultz defensively because Fultz can guard quicker guards and you can try to hide Hayes on the less-intimidating opponents. That doesn't really make Hayes more appealing to me, but it is a consideration if you are enamored with Hayes' potential as a creator. The fit is more questionable at the offensive end because neither of them seem to be good at shooting off the catch.

There is way too much tied up in positional labels these days. It's about what a guy can and can't do. Hayes should be able to run the pick and roll and create some shots for others. If he proves capable of that, he will be useful, regardless of who he is defending at the opposite end.

[BlueBlazer]

League sources say the Magic are attempting to move up into the lottery by packaging this pick with Aaron Gordon.

Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer in his latest mock - https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

Please be Edwards.

Are we talking up to the top 3 or like 6-9?

[The1llness]

League sources say the Magic are attempting to move up into the lottery by packaging this pick with Aaron Gordon.

Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer in his latest mock - https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

It would say a lot about the trade value of Gordon if the Magic can't move him along with the 15th pick just to move up 5-7 draft spots in a weak draft.