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2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft

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Who do you want us to take at #3?

Ace Bailey
34
45%
V.J. Edgecombe
20
27%
Kon Knueppel
3
4%
Khaman Maluach
1
1%
Tre Johnson
14
19%
Derik Queen
3
4%
 
Total votes: 75

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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#2181 » by Arsenal » Thu May 22, 2025 11:52 am

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Or he went there to see the next Yao Ming


Would be hilarious to see Communist China's reaction to Morey drafting Hansen Yang. I assume they'd make Morey throw Taiwan and Hong Kong under the bus before allowing Yang to play with the Sixers lol.
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Post#2182 » by Mik317 » Thu May 22, 2025 1:38 pm

VJ and Tre and we'll be ok

(in that I think at minimum , both will be longtime NBA players with some potential star upside even if not likely)

Pass on or take Ace and it could blow up in your face

(I am scared money and passing on the idea of a scoring wing shakes me to my core but my eyes just tells me nah son)
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Post#2183 » by sodmoraes » Thu May 22, 2025 2:13 pm

Mik317 wrote:VJ and Tre and we'll be ok

(in that I think at minimum , both will be longtime NBA players with some potential star upside even if not likely)

Pass on or take Ace and it could blow up in your face

(I am scared money and passing on the idea of a scoring wing shakes me to my core but my eyes just tells me nah son)


Thats my biggest fear on this draft: pass on Bailey and he becomes a premium wing later. I rather pick him and he bust than have to face that risky. That´s why i´m not a GM :lol:
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Post#2184 » by M2J » Thu May 22, 2025 3:32 pm

sodmoraes wrote:
Mik317 wrote:VJ and Tre and we'll be ok

(in that I think at minimum , both will be longtime NBA players with some potential star upside even if not likely)

Pass on or take Ace and it could blow up in your face

(I am scared money and passing on the idea of a scoring wing shakes me to my core but my eyes just tells me nah son)


Thats my biggest fear on this draft: pass on Bailey and he becomes a premium wing later. I rather pick him and he bust than have to face that risky. That´s why i´m not a GM :lol:


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Post#2185 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu May 22, 2025 4:12 pm

We can't afford to get this pick wrong. We're still trying to compete now so you want a player that can contribute in some fashion right away.

Ace Bailey at his lowest, at the very least will be a playable 3&D forward that can hit open threes and play decent defense.

Edgecombe at his lowest is Kris Dunn and possibly out of the league. He might be only a role player, to me he's another Benedict Mathurin and I can definitely talk myself into that.

Tre Johnson at his lowest is Buddy Hield, or he could develop into another version of James Harden. Can he stay on the floor in a playoff series without being a defensive liability?

So again, we can't miss on this pick. It's a must that we draft this player with the idea of them playing in a playoff game with the ability to contribute on both ends of the floor. To me that player is Ace Bailey.

Bailey isn't Evan Turner who couldn't shoot and wasn’t athletic enough to last in this league. Bailey doesn't play scared the way Turner did.

Bailey isn't Jahlil Okafor who couldn't rebound the ball while being a slow motion turnstile matador on defense.

Bailey does give me Markelle Fultz WTFs....As in how could this dude possibly bust? We saw the impossible with Fultz...I mean he forgot how to shoot for crying out loud! I could see Sixers bad luck coming into play and Bailey suddenly forgetting that he's athletic, but that could just be a paranoia in me leaking out.
We've missed bad on these high draft picks over the last ten years. Okafor, Noel, Simmons, Fultz...None of these guys will even be in the league next year. This team has been able to find a few undrafted gems, I'll credit them for that, but we have not drafted well at the top basically as far back as I've been following the sport. Iverson and Embiid and that's been it. The rest from Shawn Bradley to Fultz have either been bad picks, traded, or ended up mere role players. I'm nervous AF about this pick. Itdbe better to move down to 5 or 6 and try to get an extra pick while relieving the pressure of this situation.
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Post#2186 » by M2J » Thu May 22, 2025 4:51 pm

2nd interview of someone that professionally covers Rutger popped in my algo. Also a 76er fan.

Discusses Rutgers struggles, offense, etc. Work ethic compared to comparisons. Plus some Harper notes

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Post#2187 » by SixthStreet » Thu May 22, 2025 5:42 pm

I'm reaching the apathy stage of the draft cycle. If Embiid isn't right the guy we take at 3 is going to end up being the 3rd best player on a decent Sixers team year down the line or traded. Hard to see myself caring so much who we take. None of them have the potential to be the second best player on a good team. I want Tre because he's a Longhorn like me, but I don't have much hope about any of these dudes really.
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Post#2188 » by SixthStreet » Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm

Black Mage wrote:The PHLY guys did a mock draft. Bodner picked for Sixers at 3 and went VJ. Kyle sounded like it would have been his pick too.


I like these guys but they index defense far too much and offensive toolkit far too little with guards especially at the top of the draft when you should be star-hunting. Their philosophy I agree with late lottery on-wards, but star guards are stars because of their offense. Edgecombe ain't it.
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Post#2189 » by Stanford » Thu May 22, 2025 6:01 pm

M2J wrote:2nd interview of someone that professionally covers Rutger popped in my algo. Also a 76er fan.

Discusses Rutgers struggles, offense, etc. Work ethic compared to comparisons. Plus some Harper notes



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Post#2190 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 22, 2025 6:03 pm

SixthStreet wrote:I'm reaching the apathy stage of the draft cycle. If Embiid isn't right the guy we take at 3 is going to end up being the 3rd best player on a decent Sixers team year down the line or traded. Hard to see myself caring so much who we take. None of them have the potential to be the second best player on a good team. I want Tre because he's a Longhorn like me, but I don't have much hope about any of these dudes really.


This is why I'm dying for us to go after Zion. Embiid's window as the best player on a championship team is done. I project Maxey to be a #2 and Bailey, at best, is a #2 or #3 (projecting very far out here).

We have no player with MVP-level upside, and I don't think anyone in this draft besides Flagg has that. There can always be a Giannis, SGA, Joker, Hali, or Mitchell later in the draft, but we shouldn't bank on that.
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Bona/Watford/Barlow
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Post#2191 » by Mik317 » Thu May 22, 2025 6:05 pm

Zion with our doctors and training staff is asking for disaster
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Post#2192 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 22, 2025 6:08 pm

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M2J wrote:2nd interview of someone that professionally covers Rutger popped in my algo. Also a 76er fan.

Discusses Rutgers struggles, offense, etc. Work ethic compared to comparisons. Plus some Harper notes



Don't overthink this


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Post#2193 » by M2J » Thu May 22, 2025 6:08 pm

Mik317 wrote:Zion with our doctors and training staff is asking for disaster


For sure, but that is an intriguing disaster
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Post#2194 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 22, 2025 6:12 pm

Mik317 wrote:Zion with our doctors and training staff is asking for disaster


You waive him and his non-guaranteed contract if it doesn't work out.

Right now, there's just 0 franchise player upside here.
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Post#2195 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 22, 2025 6:16 pm

The problem with someone like Zion is it seems like his off the court situation is a distraction, to say the least. For all of our issues over the past decade, I feel like players impregnating some girl who, in turn, drives them crazy very publicly has fortunately not been one of them.
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Post#2196 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 22, 2025 6:44 pm

Agree 100% on all the Zion red flags. But you can either waive him, or use his contract as filler to trade for a star to pair with Maxey/McCain/#3. The receiving team will also see the appeal in his non-guaranteed contract.

If he does somehow put together an MVP-level season, then you are a contender, same as Joel. Furthermore, you can then use (in 2 years) PG's expiring + picks to acquire another player to pair with Maxey/McCain/#3/Zion.

I also see the argument of just standing pat with Joel since we know what we're getting with him.
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Post#2197 » by the_process » Thu May 22, 2025 6:55 pm

SixthStreet wrote:
Black Mage wrote:The PHLY guys did a mock draft. Bodner picked for Sixers at 3 and went VJ. Kyle sounded like it would have been his pick too.


I like these guys but they index defense far too much and offensive toolkit far too little with guards especially at the top of the draft when you should be star-hunting. Their philosophy I agree with late lottery on-wards, but star guards are stars because of their offense. Edgecombe ain't it.


And since we know Bailey ain't it either, that leaves Tre and praying he makes some defensive effort going forward.
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Post#2198 » by Iverson Armband » Thu May 22, 2025 7:13 pm

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SixthStreet wrote:
Black Mage wrote:The PHLY guys did a mock draft. Bodner picked for Sixers at 3 and went VJ. Kyle sounded like it would have been his pick too.


I like these guys but they index defense far too much and offensive toolkit far too little with guards especially at the top of the draft when you should be star-hunting. Their philosophy I agree with late lottery on-wards, but star guards are stars because of their offense. Edgecombe ain't it.


And since we know Bailey ain't it either, that leaves Tre and praying he makes some defensive effort going forward.


If Tre can get his defense up to passable, he represents the player with the highest upside at #3. He has All-Star level scoring ability right now. If not, his floor is Buddy Hield. To me, he has the highest floor and highest ceiling.
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Post#2199 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 22, 2025 7:19 pm

Ace < Tre < Kasparas < Queen.
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Post#2200 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 22, 2025 7:38 pm

Separating the career from the prospect, who was better entering the league: Stauskas or Kon? Similar size, similar shooting percentages…

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