2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

Rapsfan07 · Post #221 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sat May 24, 2014 4:57 pm

bigmandinky wrote:If Smart, Vonleh, or Randle fall to the 8th pick, I'd say we should jump on that oppurtunity. Otherwise, I'd say we just play it safe with our own picks.

Depends on what's required to move up to #8. I wouldn't do it for Smart because I think Payton is a comparable prospect and is rated much lower but if it's Vonleh/Randle, I'd look into it.

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Bryan Colangelo · Post #222 » by **Bryan Colangelo** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:06 pm

Smart remembered his meeting with Toronto but he forgot about many other teams haha
Kyle Lowry for Marcus Smart

However, Elfrid Payton > every other pg in the draft

cb4_jo6 · Post #223 » by **cb4_jo6** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:22 pm

Hey guys,
I've been heavily looking into this draft over the last two weeks or so particularly in the second round...I feel that tons of of people are putting emphasis on the first round. I believe there are tons of hidden gems projected to go late in the first round and early second.
Just wanted to get your take on the following players and what you think:

Damien Inglis (Late First round early second)
P.J Hairston (Decent player, maturity??)
James McAdoo (very underrated IMO)
Guillem Vives (PG out of Spain)
Adreian Payne (Recent news about a rare breathing condition he suffers from, does his value drop)
Deonte Burton (Reminds me of a poor mans Steve Francis, Baron Davis)

Young_Buc · Post #224 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:27 pm

Does anyone think McAdoo comes out of nowhere to be a solid rotation guy?

Young_Buc · Post #225 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:29 pm

Also under what circumstances could we acquire 19 and 16 for 20?

We give them Amir and take Loozer? Giving Ross would be stupid. Anything else?

Indeed · Post #226 » by **Indeed** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:37 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Yea I could see Vonleh leapfrogging Randle for sure. He's not as talented as Bosh was when he entered the draft but with some work and time, he has a chance to be close.

Gordon worries me. Not sure what position he plays in the NBA.

Love the Miller comparison for McDermott.

As for Payton, I been on the bandwagon. Absolutely no reason for him to be ranked so low besides perhaps team need but talent for talent, he's better than Ennis. After workouts, I could see him flying into the late lotto - mid first round.

This is really one of the deepest drafts in a very, very long time. I hope Masai is getting another pick.

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You usually don't like getting a non-NBA ready for a roster spot, but I agree with this draft, where we should consider getting another pick (or trade up), particularly late 1st. However, we may not have the playing time for some of these young players. Maybe we draft 1 raw player and 2 NBA ready.

tdotrep2 · Post #227 » by **tdotrep2** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:38 pm

Young_Buc wrote:Also under what circumstances could we acquire 19 and 16 for 20?

We give them Amir and take Loozer? Giving Ross would be stupid. Anything else?

Would only do this deal if you think you could get a guy that could be a really good player for you, realistically Amir is going to be better than anyone we could pick up around that range and boozer doesn't fit our team.

Young_Buc · Post #228 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:41 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:Also under what circumstances could we acquire 19 and 16 for 20?

We give them Amir and take Loozer? Giving Ross would be stupid. Anything else?

Would only do this deal if you think you could get a guy that could be a really good player for you, realistically Amir is going to be better than anyone we could pick up around that range and boozer doesn't fit our team.

I think at 16 someone slips whether its Stauskas, McDermott, Ennis or Gordon. At 19 you take a big man to replace him (Payne, Capella) I think Amir is done. He was terrible for us the las month of the season and in the playoffs. He's going to be slowly on the decline from this year out.

Dukenukem23 · Post #229 » by **Dukenukem23** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:54 pm

Young_Buc wrote:Does anyone think McAdoo comes out of nowhere to be a solid rotation guy?

Wouldn't be out of nowhere, he was considered a lottery pick not long ago. He's #59 on DX right now we could maybe get him there and get the steal of the draft.

Young_Buc · Post #230 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:55 pm

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:Does anyone think McAdoo comes out of nowhere to be a solid rotation guy?

Wouldn't be out of nowhere, he was considered a lottery pick not long ago. He's #59 on DX right now we could maybe get him there and get the steal of the draft.

That's what I mean, he's pretty much been written off as a bust. Was supposed to be a top pick freshman year and just floundered.

Dukenukem23 · Post #231 » by **Dukenukem23** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:02 pm

Young_Buc wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:Does anyone think McAdoo comes out of nowhere to be a solid rotation guy?

Wouldn't be out of nowhere, he was considered a lottery pick not long ago. He's #59 on DX right now we could maybe get him there and get the steal of the draft.

That's what I mean, he's pretty much been written off as a bust. Was supposed to be a top pick freshman year and just floundered.

I have to say I'm really jealous if the sixers have 7 2nd round picks in one of the deepest drafts in NBA history plus 2 lottery picks. Any other draft and Macadoo is at worst an early second pick.

Tortiglioni · Post #232 » by **Tortiglioni** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:15 pm

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:Does anyone think McAdoo comes out of nowhere to be a solid rotation guy?

Wouldn't be out of nowhere, he was considered a lottery pick not long ago. He's #59 on DX right now we could maybe get him there and get the steal of the draft.

I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if Spurs took him at #30. In any case, I don't see any chance he makes it to #59 (especially given that the Spurs are picking again at #58). Personally, I would give him a strong look at #37.

Rapsfan07 · Post #233 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:39 pm

Tortiglioni wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:Does anyone think McAdoo comes out of nowhere to be a solid rotation guy?

Wouldn't be out of nowhere, he was considered a lottery pick not long ago. He's #59 on DX right now we could maybe get him there and get the steal of the draft.

I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if Spurs took him at #30. In any case, I don't see any chance he makes it to #59 (especially given that the Spurs are picking again at #58). Personally, I would give him a strong look at #37.

You guys would take McAdoo at #37? Why?!?! What has McAdoo done of proven to go ahead of a guy like Stokes or even Burton? His upside is a rotation big at best and there are far more intriguing, proven and potential filled guys available.

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Roland Brice · Post #234 » by **Roland Brice** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:40 pm

Young_Buc wrote:Also under what circumstances could we acquire 19 and 16 for 20?

We give them Amir and take Loozer? Giving Ross would be stupid. Anything else?

I'd only do that if Stauskas and Payne were still on the board. I might also think about it if I could get two of LaVine, Payton, Inglis or Ennis and dump Hayes and/or Novak on CHI.

Rapsfan07 · Post #235 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:44 pm

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:Wouldn't be out of nowhere, he was considered a lottery pick not long ago. He's #59 on DX right now we could maybe get him there and get the steal of the draft.

That's what I mean, he's pretty much been written off as a bust. Was supposed to be a top pick freshman year and just floundered.

I have to say I'm really jealous if the sixers have 7 2nd round picks in one of the deepest drafts in NBA history plus 2 lottery picks. Any other draft and Macadoo is at worst an early second pick.

The Sixers own 5 second round picks and two first round picks. Plus they're bringing in Nerlens Noel this year as well. I'm am very, very sure the Sixers will be looking to sell, package and/or trade a lot of the second rounders.

I would be very interested in #32 from them though.

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Roland Brice · Post #236 » by **Roland Brice** » Sat May 24, 2014 8:30 pm

Who else is intrigued by Marshall Plumlee? Both of his brothers seemingly came out of no where to be solid rotation players. Right now Marshall is a certified scrub stat-wise, but he has that same size and bounce that his brothers possess. He's only a Sophomore now, but if the blood-lines hold true he'll be a very nice big man in the NBA.

Risk101 · Post #237 » by **Risk101** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:17 pm

Roland Brice wrote:Who else is intrigued by Marshall Plumlee? Both of his brothers seemingly came out of no where to be solid rotation players. Right now Marshall is a certified scrub stat-wise, but he has that same size and bounce that his brothers possess. He's only a Sophomore now, but if the blood-lines hold true he'll be a very nice big man in the NBA.

I'm more intrigued with Moussa Diagne. He's 6' 11" 230 lbs and has a decent wingspan of 7-5. Physical attributes with a tremendous motor, he ranks among the top-six players in one of the top leagues outside of the NBA in per-minute rebounding and shot blocking averaging a tremendous 12.9 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted. DX has him at 54.

Marshall has length and size but barely played last year. I don't know how well he could produce in the NBA.

Roland Brice · Post #238 » by **Roland Brice** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:49 pm

Risk101 wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:Who else is intrigued by Marshall Plumlee? Both of his brothers seemingly came out of no where to be solid rotation players. Right now Marshall is a certified scrub stat-wise, but he has that same size and bounce that his brothers possess. He's only a Sophomore now, but if the blood-lines hold true he'll be a very nice big man in the NBA.

I'm more intrigued with Moussa Diagne. He's 6' 11" 230 lbs and has a decent wingspan of 7-5. Physical attributes with a tremendous motor, he ranks among the top-six players in one of the top leagues outside of the NBA in per-minute rebounding and shot blocking averaging a tremendous 12.9 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted. DX has him at 54.

Marshall has length and size but barely played last year. I don't know how well he could produce in the NBA.

Yeah, I think Diagne is going to be a late steal if he finds the right team. Plumlee didn't declare so I was talking more about a future pick. He proved to be useful in his limited playing time. I don't see how both of his brother can be similar size wise and athletically and not be similar players. I think he's going to be a steal whenever he declares, probably around 2016.

Post #239 » by **Double Helix** » Sat May 24, 2014 10:54 pm

Every time I watch the DX KJ McDaniels mix and then look at his numbers and remember he's a 1993 birthday despite being a junior, not a 92 I want us to draft him.

I just don't see how he won't become a good player in the league. I don't care if he measured a little on the short side. His 8'6 standing reach is still 1.5 inches longer than Ross' right now. And the guy can just flat-out do a little of everything on both ends of the court. I can see his 3 pointer improving as well.

I just get this feeling he's going to surprise everybody.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #240 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sat May 24, 2014 11:38 pm

I think the Raptors trade up for Aaron Gordon. He's one of the guys we interviewed too, supposedly.