Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick

[The Skyhook]

Staying off the GB for a while. Everyone hates Russell in LA but now that he's in BKN: star!!!!!!

I was just about to come in saying I wonder what the GB reaction will be. This is exactly what I thought it would be. They're freaking clowns.

[myersia]

I honestly think Russell's issues were far more than we are aware. I would not be shocked if his immaturity rubbed his teammates and Walton the wrong way. I bet there's more to this. That being said he's worth more than what we got right now. I would not be shocked though if Russell never truly meets his potential because of his immaturity.i mean now he's in Brooklyn next to Jeremy Linn . We better take ball. Ball already appears more mature than Russell. I hope it's balls team now regardless of George.


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[ozymandias818]

So now the Lakers have $60 mill available to spend next off season. They have $12.5 mill to spend this season and 3 first round picks to maneuver. I can see the Lakers trading the 27 and 28 and Clarkson to Indiana for PG. Next year bring in Cousins at Center and re-sign Randle. Starting 5 would be:
Ball
Ingram
George
Randle
Cousins

Bring in some fillers for the bench and we are competing for a championship right then.

George and Cousins eat the entirety of that cap space. No championship team the Lakers can field will ever include Randle. He's either getting $20+M/year next offseason here and ruining us, or he's more likely gone. Ball/Ingram/George/Nance/Cousins/Zubac and no bench is getting swept by the Warriors, and it's not in the WCF either.

[Optms]

What we acquired for Russell is still pending as they (Lopez and the 28th pick) are just the first domino to fall in what looks to be a larger haul in waiting.

What domino? What larger haul? By all accounts, it looks like that pick is just going to get packaged with another pick and Clarkson/Randle for a player that we can get for nothing a year from now. Great.

If it means acquiring Lebron, Chris Paul or DeMarcus Cousins then it is a massive win. Let the dust settle before screaming the Sun is falling.

A declining Lebron or Chris Paul isn't winning us anything, even with Paul George. Cousins isn't a much better scenario. Look at our roster. Look at Golden State's. Book your return trip to reality.

And Russell wins us what exactly?

D'Angelo, even if all went well with his development, would be relegated to carrying Old-man-Lebron's bags around. A declining Lebron is still better than 96% of every player who have played in the history of the game. As it turns out, Russell's maturity, or lack there of, will likely prevent him from even reaching his full potential. As so he shouldn't even be allowed within 20 yards of a declining Lebron.

And you're concerned we let go of what exactly? A young kid, while admittedly talented, is as athletic as battery operated barbie Ken doll with a Nick Young personality?

No thanks.

[Michael Lucky]

No disrespect to anyone as i'm new here and have found that most of you guys are awesome and have a great knowledge about the game but I've never seen a player get so overrated as you guys rate Russell.

Nah... I think he was underrated. He was underrated for dumb reasons too. 80% of the people who wanted him traded wanted it because of the cell phone incident lol. Nothing to do with basketball. Even as I'm watching TV now NBATV analysts are surprised he was traded.

Either way, whether you wanted him traded or not, salary dumping him now to have enough cap space to sign 2 max contracts in 2018 makes no sense unless you're bringing on 2 max contracts right now.

Fair point. I mentioned its a very high risk game that Magic and Rob have gotten us into.

I feel that people think (incorrectly) that adding Russell to a team of PG and Max free agent would help us beat GSW and without Russell we can't.

Wrong, Russell would enter his prime after GSW is on the decline. Hence why you wanted to keep your core together and develop until that time. All Magic is going to do now is force us into playoff purgatory. Then we might be forced to start the rebuild again. Well I guess the franchise has to learn the hard way that this isn't the CBA of the 80s and 90s. It is really unfortunate.

[tlifeset]

I don't think these two things need to be mutually exclusive...

1. Dangelo was a promising young player who could have a breakout 3rd year.

2. Lakers needed to move now on Paul George.

If they don't move now, then yes - I do question the logic in trading Dangelo right now. Would make more sense to get a better look at this team +Lonzo.

Still... Magic and Rob's job is to make this team into a championship caliber roster. That happens through both developing young players and signing stars. We have too many young guys on this team and we're adding one more on Thursday (if not more). We were going to have to make some decisions sooner or later. Just so happens it happened sooner.

But don't sit here and tell me that ANY OF YOU, after enduring three seasons in a row of ineptitude, aren't going to be happy to see Lonzo, Ingram and Paul George suit up next year... no matter who the rest of the supporting parts are. If that's not a step in the right direction, well then you haven't been watching enough hoops. Sorry not sorry.

[milesfides]

It really doesn't. 34-year-old Lebron is going to want to compete for championships, not 40 wins.

Exactly, which is why he's rumored to be heading to LA in 2018, maybe because he's collaborating to create a superteam on the Lakers.

[Camping Fan]

Your post is too foolish to not label you as a fool. You saying Lou can be "easily be replaced by virtually an sub standard player in the league" is only further proving it. Dude hasn't shot under 40% in almost a decade, for what it's worth.

I was talking about Russell. .405% to be exact. He actually regressed and shot worse then his rookie year despite taking fewer shots this past year.

Don't bother responding to this post until you can actually engage in a conversation without hurling insults.

Why don't you look up what "sub-" means and get back to us.

Better yet, don't.

I honestly would have been happy to have seen the Lakers hold still and develop the young guys one more year, but moving Mozgov or Deng was a high priority and Lopez is really a better player. It was just practically a given that Russell is not a franchise player and trade bait

[the7boss]

I don't really now if this is a right move going forward, but it's depressing seeing DLo gone so soon.
The franchise wasn't so high on him as most of the fans, that's for sure, they maybe see him having a OJ Mayo or Tyreke Evans type of career.

I expect him to put AllStar numbers in Brooklyn next season.

Don't like the move, hope I'm wrong.


Man, last offseason was the worst ever, how could anyone on Earth think it was a good idea to sign Mozgov and Deng to those deals?

[LakersLegacy]

I want Jim and Mitch back.

Mitch gave Moz and Deng those giant desperation contracts.

It will be Russell, Randle, Clarkson, 28 for George and Lopez soon.

Lopez is an expiring so Magic can get LeBron. The Lakers roster will be stacked soon like the Dodgers roster is stacked now.

This season
Ball
Ingram
George
Nance
Zubac

6th man Lopez

Next season
CP3
Ball
George
LeBron
Zubac

6th man Ingram + ring chasing vets

[LakersLegacy]

I don't really now if this is a right move going forward, but it's depressing seeing DLo gone so soon.
The franchise wasn't so high on him as most of the fans, that's for sure, they maybe see him having a OJ Mayo or Tyreke Evans type of career.

I expect him to put AllStar numbers in Brooklyn next season.

Don't like the move, hope I'm wrong.


Man, last offseason was the worst ever, who could anyone on Earth think it was a good idea to sign Mozgov and Deng to those deals?

He will be an all-star in the East. Break out season. They will ask him to shoot as much as he wants.

[tlifeset]

TRUST THE MAGIC.

[Camping Fan]

So now the Lakers have $60 mill available to spend next off season. They have $12.5 mill to spend this season and 3 first round picks to maneuver. I can see the Lakers trading the 27 and 28 and Clarkson to Indiana for PG. Next year bring in Cousins at Center and re-sign Randle. Starting 5 would be:
Ball
Ingram
George
Randle
Cousins

Bring in some fillers for the bench and we are competing for a championship right then.

Cousins is a cancer - If the Lakers get Paul George, I'd say lets see how Zublaca develops - He looks real good, but with the right pieces, Cousins could fit - with Paul George-Cousins - Ingram-Randle

[Leor_77]

TRUST THE MAGIC.

That's right. Trust his lengthy track record!!

[LakersLegacy]

Celtics 2 picks next year devaluing...

That's a bonus for Magic

[ozymandias818]

And Russell wins us what exactly?

D'Angelo, even if all went well with his development, would be relegated to carrying Old-man-Lebron's bags around. A declining Lebron is still better than 96% of every player who have played in the history of the game. As it turns out, Russell's maturity, or lack there of, will likely prevent him from even reaching his full potential. As so he shouldn't even be allowed within 20 yards of a declining Lebron.

And you're concerned we let go of what exactly? A young kid, while admittedly talented, is as athletic as battery operated barbie Ken doll with a Nick Young personality?

No thanks.

Yet again, what's your point? I want us fielding a good team and competing for championships. This trade made our team worse. At least you know better than to argue about that.

I don't care how good a declining Lebron is. Is he winning a championship here? The answer, obviously, is no. We just gave up one of the pieces we had that could've made a nice third player to put with a Lebron and Paul George for nothing.

Are you implying that D'lo would've been a bad influence on grown ass Lebron James? That's maybe the most ridiculous thing I've literally ever heard on the internet.

I'm concerned we're getting rid of the 2015 #2 pick for scraps.

You guys can whine about Russell and hate all you want, but what we're getting in return is far worse no matter how much you want to delude yourself and you all know it.

[tlifeset]

TRUST THE MAGIC.

That's right. Trust his lengthy track record!!

Look at where "the process" lead. With no track record.

Everything magic touches turns to gold. With the exception of other women with STDs.

[ozymandias818]

It really doesn't. 34-year-old Lebron is going to want to compete for championships, not 40 wins.

Exactly, which is why he's rumored to be heading to LA in 2018, maybe because he's collaborating to create a superteam on the Lakers.

Stuff your rumors in a sack. Logic says he's not coming here, and I'll side with logic until it's proven otherwise. Wouldn't be the first time, after the illogical trade we just made.

[tlifeset]

And Russell wins us what exactly?

D'Angelo, even if all went well with his development, would be relegated to carrying Old-man-Lebron's bags around. A declining Lebron is still better than 96% of every player who have played in the history of the game. As it turns out, Russell's maturity, or lack there of, will likely prevent him from even reaching his full potential. As so he shouldn't even be allowed within 20 yards of a declining Lebron.

And you're concerned we let go of what exactly? A young kid, while admittedly talented, is as athletic as battery operated barbie Ken doll with a Nick Young personality?

No thanks.

Yet again, what's your point? I want us fielding a good team and competing for championships. This trade made our team worse. At least you know better than to argue about that.

I don't care how good a declining Lebron is. Is he winning a championship here? The answer, obviously, is no. We just gave up one of the pieces we had that could've made a nice third player to put with a Lebron and Paul George for nothing.

Are you implying that D'lo would've been a bad influence on grown ass Lebron James? That's maybe the most ridiculous thing I've literally ever heard on the internet.

I'm concerned we're getting rid of the 2015 #2 pick for scraps.

You guys can whine about Russell and hate all you want, but what we're getting in return is far worse no matter how much you want to delude yourself and you all know it.

Haha. A nice third player with Lebron and Paul George?

Lets look at the facts...

1. We had to trade away those massive garbage deals to make room for the two of them... that takes assets.

2. I got news for you... Lonzo would be #3, Ingram would be #4... THEN maybe Dangelo is #5. Accept that fact.

[jigga_man]

I don't really now if this is a right move going forward, but it's depressing seeing DLo gone so soon.
The franchise wasn't so high on him as most of the fans, that's for sure, they maybe see him having a OJ Mayo or Tyreke Evans type of career.

I expect him to put AllStar numbers in Brooklyn next season.

Don't like the move, hope I'm wrong.


Man, last offseason was the worst ever, who could anyone on Earth think it was a good idea to sign Mozgov and Deng to those deals?

He will be an all-star in the East. Break out season. They will ask him to shoot as much as he wants.

Are you serious? Irving, Wall, Thomas, Lowry (if he stays in the east) and Walker all play point guard. Even Goran Dragic and Dennis Schroeder are better. Not to mention top level 2 guards like Derozan & Butler

Unless Brooklyn become a top 4 team in the East, it's not going to happen.

Some of you are really overrating how good Russell is. He'll be in contention to be one of the worst starting point guards in the East.