Knicks - Celtics PG: Do we need Woody back?

knickstape4ever · Post #221 » by **knickstape4ever** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 4:39 am

we're only 2.5 games out of the 9th worst record (20.2% at top 4) and 4.5 games back of 8th worst (26.2%)

9th is probably the best we can get to, but theoretically, 8th is possible. w/ the 6th toughest SOS if they keep losing at a similar rate, could happen

games against Toronto (2x), New Orleans (2x), Chicago, and San Antonio will be the most important b/c those are the teams projected to win around the same # of games

NYKat · Post #222 » by **NYKat** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 4:50 am

duetta wrote:Stealth tank win. Fabulous performance by RJ. We need to drop out of the playoffs and get one more shot at lottery magic. Payton should play 35 minutes a game every night from here on in.

I’ve been the one of the more anti-tank posters around here but I endorse this message.

We’ve already established a culture and improved our reputation, I wouldn’t be devastated if we slipped back into the lottery

NYKat · Post #223 » by **NYKat** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 4:55 am

KnicksGod wrote:Ppl say o he’s tired but what about all the other seasons where Randle hung his head watched ppl get boards or ran into traffic and turned it over.

I don’t trust the guy.

I think Randle has done enough this year to earn the benefit of the doubt after a few bad games, especially the way Thibs has ran him into the ground

Y’all are unreal

knickstape4ever · Post #224 » by **knickstape4ever** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 4:59 am

NYKat wrote:
duetta wrote:Stealth tank win. Fabulous performance by RJ. We need to drop out of the playoffs and get one more shot at lottery magic. Payton should play 35 minutes a game every night from here on in.

I’ve been the one of the more anti-tank posters around here but I endorse this message.

We’ve already established a culture and improved our reputation, I wouldn’t be devastated if we slipped back into the lottery

Agreed, I think the culture has been set for the most part. in seasons past, games would be over by the 3rd Q. this season, just about every game is fought to the end

evevale · Post #225 » by **evevale** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:00 am

Still wondering what Elf did tonight to get subbed back into the game late in the 4th. I used to joke about Thibs being a stubborn lunatic, I don't joke about it anymore. I don't joke about anything anymore actually. It's all just darkness.

thebuzzardman · Post #226 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:05 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:RJ played great. Gotta figure out more ways to get him touches when he is hot.

play him with IQ more for more spacing instead of that cancer elf

Except IQ shooting like 35% the last 20 games kind of messing up that plan.

Clyde_Style · Post #227 » by **Clyde_Style** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:30 am

Tomjas wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:We should finish up seeing what we have with Obi and Knox because that also informs how tradeable Randle is. Knox has shown some strides. He's got a shot to work well with RJ.

I have no faith though. They'll end up keeping Randle and pretending he's a player he really is not.

Knox is probably done here. It’s year 3 and he’s getting DNPs. I actually thought he showed a couple flashes as he upped his fg% and was shooting 41% from 3 and playing a bit smarter but whatever. this is a win now vet heavy playoff team I guess. Good luck to him and Frank in future endeavors[/quote

Sixers fan here

I wanted us to trade for Knox prior to the deadline as he’s obviously on the outer at the Knicks and wouldn’t be too expensive

From what I have seen, the guy has got some talent and it just seems like a complete waste to not play him at all

How is he supposed to improve if all he gets is a couple of minutes of garbage time every few games?

Seems very strange to me

He needs a change of scenery. The kid can shoot.

Sark · Post #228 » by **Sark** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:33 am

Im Coming Home wrote:Should've traded Randle for a top 10 pick when we had the chance..

Was that something that was ever even offered?

Jump Shot · Post #229 » by **Jump Shot** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:39 am

Being a New York sports fan sucks.

louisorr · Post #230 » by **louisorr** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:54 am

best part of the night though was learning the new 10 day contract player they signed has a 10 day calf injury.

spree2kawhi · Post #231 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:29 am

NYKat wrote:
duetta wrote:Stealth tank win. Fabulous performance by RJ. We need to drop out of the playoffs and get one more shot at lottery magic. Payton should play 35 minutes a game every night from here on in.

I’ve been the one of the more anti-tank posters around here but I endorse this message.

We’ve already established a culture and improved our reputation, I wouldn’t be devastated if we slipped back into the lottery

Imagine us picking 5th or 6th ... I'd love it.

GEOLINK · Post #232 » by **GEOLINK** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 9:34 am

It was all good just a week ago...

gavran · Post #233 » by **gavran** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 9:42 am

Sark wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Should've traded Randle for a top 10 pick when we had the chance..

Was that something that was ever even offered?

That's not how it works, this is not dating, it doesn't have to be consensual. If you want to trade someone for a top 10 pick, you trade him.

Im Coming Home · Post #234 » by **Im Coming Home** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 10:53 am

Sark wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Should've traded Randle for a top 10 pick when we had the chance..

Was that something that was ever even offered?

After the package Vuc got I would say it was close to possible. At least a top 15 pick imo

Nazrmohamed · Post #235 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:23 am

NYKat wrote:
duetta wrote:Stealth tank win. Fabulous performance by RJ. We need to drop out of the playoffs and get one more shot at lottery magic. Payton should play 35 minutes a game every night from here on in.

I’ve been the one of the more anti-tank posters around here but I endorse this message.

We’ve already established a culture and improved our reputation, I wouldn’t be devastated if we slipped back into the lottery

Should've stuck to your guns. Teams who make the lottery have established nothing. The players you thought turned a corner are empty stat players and the youth you thought you built up weren't that impactful. In fact in our case it proves that the Knicks are choke artists who let what was one a 4rth seed slip away but sitting on thier hands. I could see it we went into the allstar break or trade deadline at the 9th seed. We opted to allow things to end up this way. And what's worse is its already too late for tanking. Knicks should've been more committed to either goal but how many times have you seen this.

-the losing streak to ruin a good playoff win
-the end of season mini-3 game win streak at the end of a season were trending for a top 5 pick

Win at something. Pick a goal and win at it. SMH

Post #236 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:30 am

lol it is time for the Elfrid Payton Show. The reverse course tank.

rammagen · Post #237 » by **rammagen** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:31 am

this team is slipping because randle is not healthy and Barrett can not do everything. We need a starting PG in the worst way. I can see them making a move and over paying for a starting pg in the off season I just hope it is the correct PG not overaged or overpaid

Spree2Houston · Post #238 » by **Spree2Houston** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:43 am

knickstape4ever wrote:we're only 2.5 games out of the 9th worst record (20.2% at top 4) and 4.5 games back of 8th worst (26.2%)

9th is probably the best we can get to, but theoretically, 8th is possible. w/ the 6th toughest SOS if they keep losing at a similar rate, could happen

games against Toronto (2x), New Orleans (2x), Chicago, and San Antonio will be the most important b/c those are the teams projected to win around the same # of games

Yup just getting to 9 would only require us moving up 4 slots on lottery night to get into the top 5. We saw it happen with the Pelicans. We really just want to be in the top 5 lol

Post #239 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:02 pm

We are due for picking 9th again.

SmoothLefty21 · Post #240 » by **SmoothLefty21** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:12 pm

- Team that overachieves by playing harder/tougher D than most do in the regular season.
- Thibs Effect wearing down Randle.
- We start Elfrid Payton, Reggie Bullock, and Nerlens Noel. :lol:

- No Mitch.
- Tough stretch to end the season.

The lottery is still very much in play, even with the play-in tournament, and I'm all for it. I'd say it's a coinflip if CHI passes us or not.