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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#221 » by scoobs07 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:17 pm

ScHoolBoy B wrote:Welp looks like Myles Turner is out of the question because Pacers want 2 first round picks, which we don't have.

Perhaps trade THT to a third team in exchange for contracts and a pick? Then flip the pick and the 2027 pick to Indiana.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#222 » by LAL1947 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:30 pm

Is Duncan Robinson possibly available? He seems to be playing a few less minutes per game than in the past 2 years. Wondering if he could be gotten for THT plus something... and if it's a good trade idea.

1-5: Bradley, Robinson, Lebron, AD, Howard
6-10: Collison, Monk/Reaves, Johnson, Carmelo/Ariza, New Center

If not Robinson, then Jordan Clarkson is also available.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#223 » by Kilroy » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:09 pm

scoobs07 wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:Welp looks like Myles Turner is out of the question because Pacers want 2 first round picks, which we don't have.

Perhaps trade THT to a third team in exchange for contracts and a pick? Then flip the pick and the 2027 pick to Indiana.


Well Turner has a stress fracture in his foot... So they aren't getting 2 FRPs for him this season... I can't remember if a player can even be traded when he's injured. I don't think he can...
That said, stress fractures in feet for big men, are not a good thing... They take forever to heal, are likely to happen again, and usually are an indication of some other structural issue...
So maybe it's time to park the Myles Turner train....
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#224 » by scoobs07 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:19 pm

LAL1947 wrote:Is Duncan Robinson possibly available? He seems to be playing a few less minutes per game than in the past 2 years. Wondering if he could be gotten for THT plus something... and if it's a good trade idea.

1-5: Bradley, Robinson, Lebron, AD, Howard
6-10: Collison, Monk/Reaves, Johnson, Carmelo/Ariza, New Center

If not Robinson, then Jordan Clarkson is also available.
Makes sense. Robinson is having a down year, hitting only 35% from three. Just signed a long contract. Makes about what THT + Nunn make together. Heat will have to max out Herro soon, so THT's 10 million or so per year would a lot more manageable. Butler could kind of mentor THT. They have shooters in Herro, Lowry, Strus, etc. to kick the ball out to.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#225 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:56 pm

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scoobs07 wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:Welp looks like Myles Turner is out of the question because Pacers want 2 first round picks, which we don't have.

Perhaps trade THT to a third team in exchange for contracts and a pick? Then flip the pick and the 2027 pick to Indiana.


Well Turner has a stress fracture in his foot... So they aren't getting 2 FRPs for him this season... I can't remember if a player can even be traded when he's injured. I don't think he can...
That said, stress fractures in feet for big men, are not a good thing... They take forever to heal, are likely to happen again, and usually are an indication of some other structural issue...
So maybe it's time to park the Myles Turner train....



Myles, warren, McConnell, lamb.... For Westbrook, baze, and DeAndre and picks... They save money....

Than flip tht and lamb for grant
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#226 » by scoobs07 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm

Trade idea:

Lakers get: Trent, Svi, and Bonga

Raptors get: THT, Monk, Howard, and Nunn

Why for Lakers?

Trant has a little bit more size than Monk, and is a much better defender. Trent is also locked in to a fairly reasonable contract the next three years, and is only 23. Svi and Bonga are just filler, but the Lakers did actually draft them.

Why for Raptors?

They have previously shown interest in THT. Monk slides in there nicely as starting 2, and Raptors might actually have the resources to re-sign him. They also could take a look at Nunn. Howard provides them with much needed rim protection and rebounding.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#227 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:55 am

scoobs07 wrote:Trade idea:

Lakers get: Trent, Svi, and Bonga

Raptors get: THT, Monk, Howard, and Nunn

Why for Lakers?

Trant has a little bit more size than Monk, and is a much better defender. Trent is also locked in to a fairly reasonable contract the next three years, and is only 23. Svi and Bonga are just filler, but the Lakers did actually draft them.

Why for Raptors?

They have previously shown interest in THT. Monk slides in there nicely as starting 2, and Raptors might actually have the resources to re-sign him. They also could take a look at Nunn. Howard provides them with much needed rim protection and rebounding.



Tht, DeAndre, baze.... For Trent straight
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#228 » by bb22 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:51 pm

scoobs07 wrote:Trade idea:

Lakers get: Trent, Svi, and Bonga

Raptors get: THT, Monk, Howard, and Nunn

Why for Lakers?

Trant has a little bit more size than Monk, and is a much better defender. Trent is also locked in to a fairly reasonable contract the next three years, and is only 23. Svi and Bonga are just filler, but the Lakers did actually draft them.

Why for Raptors?

They have previously shown interest in THT. Monk slides in there nicely as starting 2, and Raptors might actually have the resources to re-sign him. They also could take a look at Nunn. Howard provides them with much needed rim protection and rebounding.



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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#229 » by One Love » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:49 pm

The only way this team gets better is to get a defensive minded tough combo guard who sets the tone on the perimeter & put Westbrook on the IR like Wall... Westbrook experiment didn't work, admit it and move on...

I would trade THT & Dunn to Celtics for Smart...

IR Westbrook Lineup:

PG: Smart (6'4")
SG: Monk (6'5")
SF: Reeves (6'6")
PF: LBJ (6'8)
C: AD (6'11")

Play Westbrook Lineup:

PG: Westbrook (6'4")
SG: Smart (6'4")
SF: Monk (6'5")
PF: LBJ (6'8")
C: AD (6'11")

Bench: Melo (6'8"), Bradley (6'2"), Howard (6'11") & Ariza (6'8")...

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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#230 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:48 pm

Why the heck are pacers discussing fox when they have brogdon???

I would love brogdon on this team!
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#231 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:50 pm

If Sacramento could save money this season... Would they entertain Westbrook, baze, and DeAndre.,.. for hield, Barnes, and Bagley/Tristan??
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#232 » by scoobs07 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:54 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:If Sacramento could save money this season... Would they entertain Westbrook, baze, and DeAndre.,.. for hield, Barnes, and Bagley/Tristan??
I would include THT, Reeves, and even a pick in that deal too. Lakers get a steal by dumping Westbrook and adding useful players such as Barnes and Hield.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#233 » by TheHartBreakKid » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:56 am

Interesting that Lakers have interest in Barnes. I certainly like him more than Hield, and he is arguably a better fit than Turner and Grant.

I think it's obvious that AD should be playing the majority of his minutes in center moving forward, and Lebron is likely to play a few center minutes and the rest of his minutes at pf. With westbrook guaranteed to play a lot of minutes, I like having Monk next to him, and to me, the third player to round out that lineup should be someone who could switch both on guards and on bigger wings. Grant may be a better defender than Barnes, and so is a focused Lebron, but I don't like either of those guys having to switch on small quick guards (which would be very likely considering we would basically be switching everything ideally, as Monk and RW (or Bradley) simply don't have the ability to stay infront of their men.

I don't know if Barnes could be had for our best offer, but I do think he's our best option. We need a starting lineup that could play together consistently (which would lead to bench/ mixed units that would player together consistently), in order to get our defense together. we could get away with picking between Bradley/Monk based on matchups, but we can't have 2 spots in our starting lineup that's so interchangeable, which would be the case even if we are healthy.


A healthy playoff rotation like this is pretty solid imo:

AD (36)/ Lebron (12)
Lebron (24)/ Barnes (12) / Melo (12) -* Melo would only play along side AD in the front court. Melo should not play the 4 in a super small ball lineup
Lebron (12) / Barnes (20)/ (remaining 16 minutes TBT)
Monk (12)/ Bradley (20)/ (remaining 16 minutes TBT)
Westbrook (34)/ Monk (14)


Those 32 TBT minutes will depend on matchup, split between 2-3 players. Candidates for those minutes include Dwight (the rare situations where Lebron/Barnes would have to shift down), Ariza, Reeves, or any viable addition in the buy out market) .
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#234 » by Kilroy » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:00 am

Never have rice at Hanzo's house...
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#235 » by TheHartBreakKid » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:56 am

I know it's i'ts just for jokes but value wise it's a pretty interesting trade...but honestly, even if Indy/Philly would both be hypothetically down, I'm not sure if that makes us a better team.

Obviously they are worlds apart in terms of value, and as overall players, but I'm not convinced Simmons > Westbrook would be much of an upgrade for us looking at this season only.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#236 » by Eric Bieniemy » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:34 am


The Turner part makes it unbelievable, but Davis, Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, and Monk plus Bazemore would definitely get you Simmons, Harris, Green, and Thybulle plus Springer.

Philadelphia won't get a better offer.

Replacing Westbrook with Harris is a definite win.
Replacing Horton-Tucker with Thybulle is a win.
Replacing Monk with Green is a win.
Replacing Bazemore with Jaden Springer is a definite win.

It's the replacing Davis with Simmons part that makes it dicey. Davis is a better player right now, but I think Simmons under LeBron James' leadership will be better soon enough.

You lose size and shot blocking, but you gain defensive versatility, athleticism, reliability/availability, youth, ballhandling, and a clear-cut cornerstone who can carry your franchise five years from now when James hangs it up.

James with a good backup can play center fulltime. This notion makes me pull the trigger.

PG - Bradley - Nunn
SG - Green - Reaves
C - James - Howard
PF - Harris - Anthony
SF - Simmons - Thybulle
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#237 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:32 am

Kilroy wrote:
scoobs07 wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:Welp looks like Myles Turner is out of the question because Pacers want 2 first round picks, which we don't have.

Perhaps trade THT to a third team in exchange for contracts and a pick? Then flip the pick and the 2027 pick to Indiana.


Well Turner has a stress fracture in his foot... So they aren't getting 2 FRPs for him this season... I can't remember if a player can even be traded when he's injured. I don't think he can...
That said, stress fractures in feet for big men, are not a good thing... They take forever to heal, are likely to happen again, and usually are an indication of some other structural issue...
So maybe it's time to park the Myles Turner train....


Is it a fake injury OR did he actually get hurt during game?

I see teams/players faking injury b4 trade dead line in the hope to either keep him OR lower value so other teams won't want him?

It's just Ironic? that this happens just b4 trade dead line?

Edit: he a better fit then Grant - as Turner allows AD "Mr Soft" to play the 4 ... If we some how (doubt it) get Grant in a trade AD would probably have to play the 5
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#238 » by loveshaq786 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:00 pm

Eric Bieniemy wrote:

The Turner part makes it unbelievable, but Davis, Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, and Monk plus Bazemore would definitely get you Simmons, Harris, Green, and Thybulle plus Springer.

Philadelphia won't get a better offer.

Replacing Westbrook with Harris is a definite win.
Replacing Horton-Tucker with Thybulle is a win.
Replacing Monk with Green is a win.
Replacing Bazemore with Jaden Springer is a definite win.

It's the replacing Davis with Simmons part that makes it dicey. Davis is a better player right now, but I think Simmons under LeBron James' leadership will be better soon enough.

You lose size and shot blocking, but you gain defensive versatility, athleticism, reliability/availability, youth, ballhandling, and a clear-cut cornerstone who can carry your franchise five years from now when James hangs it up.

James with a good backup can play center fulltime. This notion makes me pull the trigger.

PG - Bradley - Nunn
SG - Green - Reaves
C - James - Howard
PF - Harris - Anthony
SF - Simmons - Thybulle


I'm sorry but we can get way more for Anthony Davis...
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#239 » by thenbaman » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:07 pm

Eric Bieniemy wrote:

The Turner part makes it unbelievable, but Davis, Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, and Monk plus Bazemore would definitely get you Simmons, Harris, Green, and Thybulle plus Springer.

Philadelphia won't get a better offer.

Replacing Westbrook with Harris is a definite win.
Replacing Horton-Tucker with Thybulle is a win.
Replacing Monk with Green is a win.
Replacing Bazemore with Jaden Springer is a definite win.

It's the replacing Davis with Simmons part that makes it dicey. Davis is a better player right now, but I think Simmons under LeBron James' leadership will be better soon enough.

You lose size and shot blocking, but you gain defensive versatility, athleticism, reliability/availability, youth, ballhandling, and a clear-cut cornerstone who can carry your franchise five years from now when James hangs it up.

James with a good backup can play center fulltime. This notion makes me pull the trigger.

PG - Bradley - Nunn
SG - Green - Reaves
C - James - Howard
PF - Harris - Anthony
SF - Simmons - Thybulle

lol what are we smoking in lala land
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#240 » by loveshaq786 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:37 pm

For Westbrook, ANTHONY FREAKING DAVIS, baze, DeAndre....

We can get... Dragic, Scottie, boucher, siakim, and Gary Trent Jr

Sacramento would give us Haliburton, heild, Barnes, Bagley, Tristan, and Holmes

Indiana... Brogdon, Turner, lamb, Warren, McConnell

Philly... Harris, Simmons, Seth, Matisse

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