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Post#221 » by Baphomet » Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:32 pm

Spurs beating Wolves but not playing too convincingly. Wolves are a decent side. Also, Perisic is great during set pieces, either taking or supporting them. Terrific footballing intellect on the guy.

The positive news is that we have 7 points out of our first 9. Especially when you consider we lost all three corresponding games last season.
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Post#222 » by wco81 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:02 pm

Arsenal taking care of business, though a fourth goal disallowed due to offsides.

How often has EPL titles been decided by goal difference? That is presumably why some of these clubs are trying to run up the scores?

Or maybe players get bonuses for padding stats?
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Post#223 » by Baphomet » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:33 pm

wco81 wrote:Arsenal taking care of business, though a fourth goal disallowed due to offsides.

How often has EPL titles been decided by goal difference? That is presumably why some of these clubs are trying to run up the scores?

Or maybe players get bonuses for padding stats?


You can't take your foot off the gas because teams can come back if given an opportunity. You need to be ruthless. And yeah, goal difference is important in determining league positions.

Arsenal have looked very good so far, but I expected them to win all of their first four games or so with their starting fixtures. Fulham at home next. The biggest question of Arsenal, and indeed of Spurs, is whether they can do it when the pressure is on and their backs are against the wall when the fixtures pile up.
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Post#224 » by LDNMagic90 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:01 pm

Gerrard ball ain’t it I want to be free from it
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Post#225 » by wco81 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:10 pm

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wco81 wrote:Arsenal taking care of business, though a fourth goal disallowed due to offsides.

How often has EPL titles been decided by goal difference? That is presumably why some of these clubs are trying to run up the scores?

Or maybe players get bonuses for padding stats?


You can't take your foot off the gas because teams can come back if given an opportunity. You need to be ruthless. And yeah, goal difference is important in determining league positions.

Arsenal have looked very good so far, but I expected them to win all of their first four games or so with their starting fixtures. Fulham at home next. The biggest question of Arsenal, and indeed of Spurs, is whether they can do it when the pressure is on and their backs are against the wall when the fixtures pile up.



But the attempt to score more goals may be exposing players to injury or wear and tear. Arsenal had a lot of players in their early 20s but with about 10-20 minutes left in the game they had Jesus and Nketiah in the game. They subbed in Nketiah for Martinelli but had Jesus play the whole game.

I guess the manager knows best which players are fit to play the whole game and how to balance that with avoiding injury.

Maybe load management hasn't hit the EPL yet.
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Post#226 » by Baphomet » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:22 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:Gerrard ball ain’t it I want to be free from it


Potter aside, the British managers are in shambles. Rodgers, Lampard and Gerrard all look like hot favourites for the sack.
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Post#227 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:11 am

Baphomet wrote:You can't take your foot off the gas because teams can come back if given an opportunity. You need to be ruthless. And yeah, goal difference is important in determining league positions.

Arsenal have looked very good so far, but I expected them to win all of their first four games or so with their starting fixtures. Fulham at home next. The biggest question of Arsenal, and indeed of Spurs, is whether they can do it when the pressure is on and their backs are against the wall when the fixtures pile up.


For sure. They've proven nothing and I've seen them vomit all over themselves when it matters most more than enough in recent years (decades?) to know all it takes is a bad result or two to knock them off course. And Jesus will cool off at some point.

But even then he's still such a massive, massive improvement over Lacazette. I saw on Twitter that Jesus already has more touches in the box than Lacazette did all last season. In just three matches. And he's actually blown at least two golden chances that I've seen, so he's still got plenty of room for improvement.

And that's before you get into the other additions. (Saliba, for example, was Arsenal's first central defender to complete all of his passes in a single match since they started tracking that stuff almost two decades ago, in addition to scoring a striker's goal and dominating again on defense.)

So it's hard not to be optimistic at this point. In years past I've seen them go into so many matches where you think it's going to be a cakewalk against an inferior team, they go down a goal or two and then it's just a grind to get points. So this feeling that they dominated a match while still leaving a few goals on the table is not one I'm used to.
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Post#228 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:51 am

Baphomet wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:Gerrard ball ain’t it I want to be free from it


Potter aside, the British managers are in shambles. Rodgers, Lampard and Gerrard all look like hot favourites for the sack.


Honestly I’m almost done with hiring British managers. I’ll take Potter, he’s a good coach plus he’s a villa fan too. The manager I want the most is Poch though, he’ll do wonders with this team.
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Post#229 » by HIF » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:00 am

LDNMagic90 wrote:
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LDNMagic90 wrote:Gerrard ball ain’t it I want to be free from it


Potter aside, the British managers are in shambles. Rodgers, Lampard and Gerrard all look like hot favourites for the sack.


Honestly I’m almost done with hiring British managers. I’ll take Potter, he’s a good coach plus he’s a villa fan too. The manager I want the most is Poch though, he’ll do wonders with this team.


Why would Poch go to Villa? PSG to Villa, you're deluded. Not sure why Potter would give up Brighton for Villa either.
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Post#230 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:22 am

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Potter aside, the British managers are in shambles. Rodgers, Lampard and Gerrard all look like hot favourites for the sack.


Honestly I’m almost done with hiring British managers. I’ll take Potter, he’s a good coach plus he’s a villa fan too. The manager I want the most is Poch though, he’ll do wonders with this team.


Why would Poch go to Villa? PSG to Villa, you're deluded. Not sure why Potter would give up Brighton for Villa either.


Money lol, at this point it’s not even that I’m expecting him to be our manager but if you throw enough money at a manager it could convince them. He’s had his experience at a top team and it didn’t work out which then normally closes that book on elite management at times.

Potter is from the Midlands so that works for us, however Brighton are a very well ran club and they don’t make things easier. Plus rumour has it when we sacked Smith, our director of football and ceo wanted Potter but were being tight in the comp so they went for Gerrard.

Also Ancelotti went to Everton, yeah it didn’t work but nobody had it down at the time that he’ll go to them, it’s certainly possibly for a coach like Poch to coach a Newcastle/Leicester/Villa etc
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Post#231 » by HIF » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:33 am

LDNMagic90 wrote:
HIF wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:
Honestly I’m almost done with hiring British managers. I’ll take Potter, he’s a good coach plus he’s a villa fan too. The manager I want the most is Poch though, he’ll do wonders with this team.


Why would Poch go to Villa? PSG to Villa, you're deluded. Not sure why Potter would give up Brighton for Villa either.


Money lol, at this point it’s not even that I’m expecting him to be our manager but if you throw enough money at a manager it could convince them. He’s had his experience at a top team and it didn’t work out which then normally closes that book on elite management at times.

Potter is from the Midlands so that works for us, however Brighton are a very well ran club and they don’t make things easier. Plus rumour has it when we sacked Smith, our director of football and ceo wanted Potter but were being tight in the comp so they went for Gerrard.

Also Ancelotti went to Everton, yeah it didn’t work but nobody had it down at the time that he’ll go to them, it’s certainly possibly for a coach like Poch to coach a Newcastle/Leicester/Villa etc


I don't believe Poch is going for anyone lower than "big 6", so I don't see him in the UK this season unless Man U stay in the relegation zone for the next couple of months. He doesn't need the money at the moment.

Potter is the man I'd like to take over at Leicester, that could be possible but not sure why he'd move from Brighton to us or Villa unless he's offered a **** load of cash for himself and team building. Perhaps we can have potter and you can have Brendan and Brighton can have Gerrard.
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Post#232 » by HIF » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:39 am

Interesting bottom 6 in the prem at the moment. I don't see any of those teams being in the bottom 6 at the end of the season other than possibly (hopefully) Everton. Top 7 at the moment? Probably only 3 of those in the top 7 at the end of the season.
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Post#233 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:02 am

HIF wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:
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Why would Poch go to Villa? PSG to Villa, you're deluded. Not sure why Potter would give up Brighton for Villa either.


Money lol, at this point it’s not even that I’m expecting him to be our manager but if you throw enough money at a manager it could convince them. He’s had his experience at a top team and it didn’t work out which then normally closes that book on elite management at times.

Potter is from the Midlands so that works for us, however Brighton are a very well ran club and they don’t make things easier. Plus rumour has it when we sacked Smith, our director of football and ceo wanted Potter but were being tight in the comp so they went for Gerrard.

Also Ancelotti went to Everton, yeah it didn’t work but nobody had it down at the time that he’ll go to them, it’s certainly possibly for a coach like Poch to coach a Newcastle/Leicester/Villa etc


I don't believe Poch is going for anyone lower than "big 6", so I don't see him in the UK this season unless Man U stay in the relegation zone for the next couple of months. He doesn't need the money at the moment.

Potter is the man I'd like to take over at Leicester, that could be possible but not sure why he'd move from Brighton to us or Villa unless he's offered a **** load of cash for himself and team building. Perhaps we can have potter and you can have Brendan and Brighton can have Gerrard.


I wouldn’t object Brendan for the most part I think he’s a good coach, I can see Potter at Leicester. I fear that if it doesn’t work out with Villa Gerrard won’t get another PL job unless he brings a team up from the Championship.
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Post#234 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:18 pm

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Sigh the same issues as before.
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Post#235 » by HIF » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:53 pm

Can I laugh at the buy them all chelsea team. I think we should add smithies to the fofana deal and ask for 120m
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Post#236 » by Foye » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:41 pm

Niakhate injured already before I have watched a Nottingham game? Sucks.
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Post#237 » by magik9113 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:13 pm

Leeds USA doing work thus far huh
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Post#238 » by wco81 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:46 pm

That free kick!

Did Newcastle spend a lot in the summer?

Saudis already blow out the budget?
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Post#239 » by UcanUwill » Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:22 pm

City Newcastle, early candidate for game of the year. It is unfair how good De Bruyne is, how is he not mentioned in goat debates, all these finishers are good and all, but I s... my pants any time Kevin touches the ball. What a CAM.
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Post#240 » by Baphomet » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:26 pm

Pretty incredible results today.

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