OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[taikibansei]

HOw do you know what I have been through?

People who talk tough on the Internet aren't tough. Again, I would bet money you'd last an hour if interrogated in a Russian prison. Tops.

What's funny is you keep talking tough and telling me I'm not, so I think we both know which one of us is real, and it isn't you.

Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this further.

[Ayt]

To all those who hate her, I am with you

WTF is wrong with some of you?

What did she ever do to deserve your hate?

There's nothing wrong with us, do you love everyone? Cuz that would be truly ignorant.

She put the likes of b Taylor ahead of her country. Blm is unamerican bs if you haven't figured it out yet

That said, I hope she's rescued but I deffo won't be losing sleep if she gets what she deserves

What does that even mean?

[Invictus88]

So out of curiosity, if this was a random guy caught on a vacation with no luster to his name, what would the sentence be in that situation?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/07/28/marc-fogel-teacher-russia-prison/

For the past 11 months, Fogel has languished in Russian detention centers following his August 2021 arrest for trying to enter the country with about half an ounce of medical marijuana he’d been prescribed in the United States for chronic pain after numerous injuries and surgeries. First he endlessly awaited trial, often in crowded, smoke-choked cells. More recently, he has been serving the first weeks of an incomprehensible 14-year sentence handed down by a Russian judge in June.

Clarifying question: What would the sentence be for a non-US Citizen? Or even a Russian citizen in the same circumstances?

[Wonka]

This thread is going to get locked any minute now

[taikibansei]

Griner's lawyer said the Russians were "won over" by the American WNBA superstar. [....]

She pleaded guilty to the charges early on in her trial — which began four months after she was arrested — with hopes that the move would help reduce her sentence. Instead, Griner received a sentence that was just six months less than prosecutor's requested and one year below the maximum sentence for her charge.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/brittney-griner-won-over-russian-171250534.html

Just as I surmised in my posts on page 1 and page 3, Griner pleaded guilty in an attempt to get leniency. Likely, Griner's attorney lied to her--i.e., leniency was never an option.

Again, we probably won't know the true story unless and until Griner is released.

[tbhawksfan1]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

There's nothing strange about it. It's a coordinated campaign. A growing number of people understand just fine and are sympathizing with it. Freedom indexes show that freedom across the world has been declining each of the last sixteen years. At the current rate, there will be very few democracies left on earth. And if the American democracy falls, the rest will be snuffed out immediately using force.

The right is uniting and their movement has no borders. It probably looks a lot like what happened in the 1930s before WWII

I've been telling people for years that what was happening in the US looked a lot like what happened in Germany in the early 1930s

[Ayt]

Whenever an American talks about how evil Putin is, or how nasty Russia are, I just can't help but literally laugh out loud.

Go have a look at the American world tour, all the countries they've bombed, invaded or done a 'regime change' to since WW2. It's something like 80 countries. Any virtue signalling from Americans is quite frankly sickening.
America has more people in prison than Russia, more people in prison on pot related charges, more people in prison under dodgy circumstances, you guys constantly tell us how corrupt and racist your police are...... but you talk about Russia as though it's worse.

The US is currently in Syria illegally occupying 1/3 of the country, stealing the oil. They helped ISIS FFS!!!! They loved Bin Laden, until he backfired on them. The list goes on and on and on.....
Yet Putin and Russia are the devil???? lol

A lot of Americans are strong critics of US foreign policy. Tell me how that would go for someone in Russia if they were outspoken about it.

[Ambrose]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

Oh yeah, for sure. All of the zero pro-Russia posts in here really back that up.

[Nate505]

The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

There's not enough wheat in Kansas to construct that strawman you just built.

[og15]

She won't actually serve the sentence. Russia has no use for her in jail, they'll just use her as a bargaining chip to do a prisoner swap with the US.

And yeah, she was very dumb to be over there in he first place. But at the same time, it's not uncommon for WNBA players or NWSL players to play overseas, including Russia, during the offseason in order to get more money. Hopefully this situation ends that practice though.

or you could not commit a crime

what a concept, right

Lol, get over yourself., some "crime" is the last thing what its about, under normal circumstances cops would light one up with her, there is no way a basketball star in Russia goes to prison over weed, these girls go to Russia for a reason - They get paid and treated well in the rich top clubs, simple. But February 22 is a hell of a bad time to be carrying potentially dangerous for yourself., she should have known her status at the time.

She got 9 years so her value as a bargaining chip would be higher. Doesnt suprise me, Russia is a sad morally corupt place bereft of any standards, as are majority of Russians.

It can be hard to fully grasp how it is to live in a country where news, media, perception, everything is controlled or there is an attempt to control it. Many of the Russian people are also partly victims, not all by any means, and not fully victims of course.

One of the toughest situations for people is living in Ukraine and having Russian relatives, telling them, "this is what is happening on the ground", but their media, news, everything is painting a totally different narrative and telling them people saying otherwise are bad, and your relatives who have known you your whole life believe their news reports over you.

[KGtabake]

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

why people feel sorry for her is beyond me

cant wait to see athletes crying over this, **** imbeciles

Why should i feel sorry for a person who gets sentenced to NINE years in prison, simply for having weed???
I don't know...maybe because the calendar shows 2022? Maybe because serving time in prison (let alone 9 years!) for weed is the stupidest thing in modern law system (in any country)?

[TPA]

She has to get a nine year sentence because it's the only way you can begin to justify releasing a notorious arms dealer, nicknamed "The Merchant of Death" for a pothead WNBA player.
It's not everyday a unicorn come strolling into your country with drugs, as geopolitical stakes are redlining! Well played Russia!

[HiDef]

State laws don't matter. Marijuana is illegal federally ANYWHERE in the US. Anyone in possession of weed can be persecuted and locked up if needed for political reasons.

Possession of small amounts carries a 1 year max sentence, and if feds want to trump up some distribution charges, it's 5 years. This is ignoring all kinds of importation charges.

What actually happens is different from what can potentially happen under the law of the land.

There are tons of laws on the books that are enforced so rarely that they become meaningless. Otherwise the Feds could just stand outside any of our gazillion dispensaries and arrest people here.

However, what I was quoting was someone claiming that they would get a 4 year sentence in the state they were in for a first time weed possession. I highly (no pun intended) doubt that, though we have to get some sort of parameters on what is defined as "possession." If he possessed 100 kilos? Yeah, then I'd believe him. If it was 10 grams? I really really really really doubt it.

Do you understand that governments use arcane loopholes to arrest citizens of unfriendly states? See Meng Wanzhou and if you want to go back further see Al Capone

Just because laws are not enforced does not mean they cannot be enforced. Countries across the world politically enforce bull laws based on feeble evidence against political adversaries. None of us are suggesting that Britney deserves 9.5 years for less than gram of cannabis vape juice.

We are just stating that by all accounts this sentence was in accordance with the law of Russia, which is important since we as Americans value the concept of rule of law.

Griner clearly **** up but honestly, what law? There is no rule of law in Russia. Not for someone who is the honored guest of an oligarch. in Russia that is enough to protect you from something like this. she's probably been smoking weed in russia for years.

Read on Twitter

[Nate505]

The fact this happened in Russia just complicates matters.

Say this happened in, I don't know, Japan or South Korea. Some country that the US has good relations with. Would the outrage be greater if she rubbed people there the wrong way and got 9 years in prison there? Or would it be the same? At the very least there wouldn't be accusations of pro-Russian bias or whatever.

[og15]

She has to get a nine year sentence because it's the only way you can begin to justify releasing a notorious arms dealer, nicknamed "The Merchant of Death" for a pothead WNBA player.
It's not everyday a unicorn come strolling into your country with drugs, as geopolitical stakes are redlining! Well played Russia!

As soon as there was mention of the prisoner swap, I thought to myself, 1) there's no way she's getting off, and 2) there's no way she's getting a light sentence that wouldn't be able to justify a swap.

[peja_the_legend]

USA should deny visa to every Russian NHL player.I'd say NBA too but there is none.Western countries are too freaking weak to this genocidal maniac.Deny visas to Russians,remove every diplmat,close down the embassies in Moscow,isolate this SOB.

[BoatsNZones]

Griner's lawyer said the Russians were "won over" by the American WNBA superstar. [....]

She pleaded guilty to the charges early on in her trial — which began four months after she was arrested — with hopes that the move would help reduce her sentence. Instead, Griner received a sentence that was just six months less than prosecutor's requested and one year below the maximum sentence for her charge.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/brittney-griner-won-over-russian-171250534.html

Just as I surmised in my posts on page 1 and page 3, Griner pleaded guilty in an attempt to get leniency. Likely, Griner's attorney lied to her--i.e., leniency was never an option.

Again, we probably won't know the true story unless and until Griner is released.

Trials are not a real thing in Russia. If you are arrested, you are convicted at a >99% rate. She did not get the pure max punishment, so I suppose that’s something, but a “not guilty” plea is moot.

The next step is that now the US and Russia can officially negotiate her release (Russia will not negotiate until after a verdict), and I would bet on her being out sooner than later. It is incredibly unfortunate that this is going to cost the world the release of one of the most notorious arms dealers into the hands of a war mongering regime. Her stupidity will likely come at a massive cost to many.

[Duffman100]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

Oh yeah, for sure. All of the zero pro-Russia posts in here really back that up.

Funny. I wrote somewhat unrelated but related.

Really counted on people actually reading what I wrote…

[Ambrose]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

Oh yeah, for sure. All of the zero pro-Russia posts in here really back that up.

Funny. I wrote somewhat unrelated but related.

Really counted on people actually reading what I wrote…

Lol nice cop out

[Duffman100]

Oh yeah, for sure. All of the zero pro-Russia posts in here really back that up.

Funny. I wrote somewhat unrelated but related.

Really counted on people actually reading what I wrote…

Lol nice cop out

Yeah asking people to be literate is really a cop out nowadays.