Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[R-DAWG]

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch

Salary wise, NY can make this happen with Mitch + Precious. They would shed about $389,000 in payroll which should leave them with enough room to add another vet min to round out the roster. Plus it pushes the team into the 2nd apron next year and sets up a 3 run there. But, it might be worth it:

Brunson/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns/Turner
Payne/McBride/Hart

The depth is still concerning, especially in the front court, but that top 6 is as good as any in the league.

[JCS]

One under-the-radar guy who would absolutely perfect on this team is Toumani Camara from the Blazers. A bit older than I thought (soon 25), but if you wanted to build the perfect backup for OG + Mikal on a Thibs-coached team, it's literally Camara. He can easily play 36 a game when someone is injured.

It would take a real asset to get him though. I wonder if Miles + 2-3 seconds could be enough

[3toheadmelo]

One under-the-radar guy who would absolutely perfect on this team is Toumani Camara from the Blazers. A bit older than I thought (soon 25), but if you wanted to build the perfect backup for OG + Mikal on a Thibs-coached team, it's literally Camara. He can easily play 36 a game when someone is injured.

It would take a real asset to get him though. I wonder if Miles + 2-3 seconds could be enough

Portland won’t trade him. Hes their Herb Jones.

[3toheadmelo]

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch

Salary wise, NY can make this happen with Mitch + Precious. They would shed about $389,000 in payroll which should leave them with enough room to add another vet min to round out the roster. Plus it pushes the team into the 2nd apron next year and sets up a 3 run there. But, it might be worth it:

Brunson/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns/Turner
Payne/McBride/Hart

The depth is still concerning, especially in the front court, but that top 6 is as good as any in the league.

Yeah, that lineup would put us up there with Boston. We finally get real rim protection and Turner can space the floor. He’d be like a KP lite here. Josh hart can win 6th man of the year.

[thebuzzardman]

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch

Salary wise, NY can make this happen with Mitch + Precious. They would shed about $389,000 in payroll which should leave them with enough room to add another vet min to round out the roster. Plus it pushes the team into the 2nd apron next year and sets up a 3 run there. But, it might be worth it:

Brunson/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns/Turner
Payne/McBride/Hart

The depth is still concerning, especially in the front court, but that top 6 is as good as any in the league.

How much better than Precious is Turner, really?

I mean, I know he's better, but is it a lot? Plus Mitch is in the deal.

But, as someone who suspects Mitch might be done, if that's true, maybe that's a deal they make, if the Pacers would do it

[R-DAWG]

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch

Salary wise, NY can make this happen with Mitch + Precious. They would shed about $389,000 in payroll which should leave them with enough room to add another vet min to round out the roster. Plus it pushes the team into the 2nd apron next year and sets up a 3 run there. But, it might be worth it:

Brunson/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns/Turner
Payne/McBride/Hart

The depth is still concerning, especially in the front court, but that top 6 is as good as any in the league.

How much better than Precious is Turner, really?

I mean, I know he's better, but is it a lot? Plus Mitch is in the deal.

But, as someone who suspects Mitch might be done, if that's true, maybe that's a deal they make, if the Pacers would do it

I can’t think of a better center to pair with Towns for the next 3-5 years Turner. Well, maybe BAM.

Turner allows you to hide Towns on defense while playing 5 out on offense.

Frankly, and I know I’m in the minority here, I would be willing to give up OG in a Turner deal, because I think the pairing with Towns is that good.

[spree8]

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch

Salary wise, NY can make this happen with Mitch + Precious. They would shed about $389,000 in payroll which should leave them with enough room to add another vet min to round out the roster. Plus it pushes the team into the 2nd apron next year and sets up a 3 run there. But, it might be worth it:

Brunson/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns/Turner
Payne/McBride/Hart

The depth is still concerning, especially in the front court, but that top 6 is as good as any in the league.

How much better than Precious is Turner, really?

I mean, I know he's better, but is it a lot? Plus Mitch is in the deal.

But, as someone who suspects Mitch might be done, if that's true, maybe that's a deal they make, if the Pacers would do it

I like Precious, but Turner is far better. He’s a legit rim protector, 3pt shooter, taller/longer, and better defender.

That being said, I don’t see how we could beat offers from all the other teams that would be putting bids in, and most importantly, I don’t see why the Pacers would look to help us to that extent. Gifting us Turner would essentially be gifting us the title.

[douggood]

someone explain the phantom 1st

New York receives:
Guerschon Yabusele

Philadelphia receives:
Jericho Sims
2025 first-round pick (more favorable of Boston, Memphis)
2028 second (less favorable of Indiana and Phoenix)

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/43522050/nba-trade-deadline-tiers-deal-scenarios-outlooks-all-30-teams

[TheGreenArrow]

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[JayTWill]

someone explain the phantom 1st

New York receives:
Guerschon Yabusele

Philadelphia receives:
Jericho Sims
2025 first-round pick (more favorable of Boston, Memphis)
2028 second (less favorable of Indiana and Phoenix)

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/43522050/nba-trade-deadline-tiers-deal-scenarios-outlooks-all-30-teams

I believe the Knicks own the 2025 second round pick (more favorable of Boston, Memphis). Maybe it was a mistake. I don't know. Is Yabusele worth a 1st and a 2nd even if the Knicks had a 1st? I haven't paid attention to him since the Olympics.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Pacers moving on from Turner seems like BS, unless they're going to get back someone like Kessler in a 3 team trade. They have no real backup Cs on the team and they're capped out.

[Spree2Houston]

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch

Salary wise, NY can make this happen with Mitch + Precious. They would shed about $389,000 in payroll which should leave them with enough room to add another vet min to round out the roster. Plus it pushes the team into the 2nd apron next year and sets up a 3 run there. But, it might be worth it:

Brunson/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns/Turner
Payne/McBride/Hart

The depth is still concerning, especially in the front court, but that top 6 is as good as any in the league.

I like Turner a lot. Perfect fit next to KAT. Indy probably wants cost controlled players moreso picks since they’re in win-now mode. Mitch, Precious, Dadiet, Wizards 1st work in the trade checker. I would trade Sims for any decent wing like Cam Whitmore whom can be had because of his degenerative knee issue and promote Hukporti to take Sims’ spot mins

Brunson/Payne
Bridges/Mcbride
Anunoby/Hart
KAT/Whitmore
Turner/KAT/Hukporti

[NewYorkNecks]

Can anyone versed in this CBA tell me why we couldn't waive Matt Ryan and sign Chuma Okeke from Westchester? Is Chuma's base minimum more than $2 mil?

[thebuzzardman]

Can anyone versed in this CBA tell me why we couldn't waive Matt Ryan and sign Chuma Okeke from Westchester? Is Chuma's base minimum more than $2 mil?

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Also, not sure.

[Knicksfan1992]

Don't think the Pacers would really trade Turner unless they get a stud back of some sort. Knicks would almost certainly have to include Deuce and a 1st or two. This would have to be a pure future financial concern trade similar to Towns for this to happen IMO.

I also think while Turner is a good player he may not be as ideal a fit as some people think he is. His defense is not what it once was. He's kind of reverted to an offense-first stretch 5 instead of being a rim protecting menace like he once was. Some of that may have to do with the Pacers philosophy of simply outscoring teams and playing a more up and down style as opposed to a grind it out halfcourt game they used to play before Hali and Carlisle arrived. Maybe this is where having Thibs as your coach can help unlock some of the hidden value in a guy like Turner? But his rim protection numbers have sharply declined since Carlisle took over. If you want a comparison point, his DFG% within 6 feet is basically identical to Precious who is much smaller than Turner. That has nothing to do with scheme IMO. He's just somehow gotten way worse at protecting the rim when given the opportunity to do so.

Ideally, if you're moving Towns to the 4 for the majority of his minutes, to me, you're doing it with the idea that the trade-off would be much more elite defense from the 5 and that you can live with Towns not rebounding as much since he'll be more out of position. Is Turner that anymore? You'd have to have faith that Thibs could coax that out of him. He's also an awful rebounder for his size. He only gets 7 per game. On top of all that, the collateral damage of this trade would be moving Hart to the bench who, to me, has been our 3rd best player. You lose his rebounding with this unit as well.

It could work but, the Knicks would basically be tapped of assets to get it done and I'm not sure how much better Turner makes us.

If we're looking for rim protection, I think you could find it in cheaper ways without including Deuce or just hope that Mitch can come back healthy and provide it for 15-25 minutes a night.

[BowlRips]

Don't think the Pacers would really trade Turner unless they get a stud back of some sort. Knicks would almost certainly have to include Deuce and a 1st or two. This would have to be a pure future financial concern trade similar to Towns for this to happen IMO.

I also think while Turner is a good player he may not be as ideal a fit as some people think he is. His defense is not what it once was. He's kind of reverted to an offense-first stretch 5 instead of being a rim protecting menace like he once was. Some of that may have to do with the Pacers philosophy of simply outscoring teams and playing a more up and down style as opposed to a grind it out halfcourt game they used to play before Hali and Carlisle arrived. Maybe this is where having Thibs as your coach can help unlock some of the hidden value in a guy like Turner? But his rim protection numbers have sharply declined since Carlisle took over. If you want a comparison point, his DFG% within 6 feet is basically identical to Precious who is much smaller than Turner. That has nothing to do with scheme IMO. He's just somehow gotten way worse at protecting the rim when given the opportunity to do so.

Ideally, if you're moving Towns to the 4 for the majority of his minutes, to me, you're doing it with the idea that the trade-off would be much more elite defense from the 5 and that you can live with Towns not rebounding as much since he'll be more out of position. Is Turner that anymore? You'd have to have faith that Thibs could coax that out of him. He's also an awful rebounder for his size. He only gets 7 per game. On top of all that, the collateral damage of this trade would be moving Hart to the bench who, to me, has been our 3rd best player. You lose his rebounding with this unit as well.

It could work but, the Knicks would basically be tapped of assets to get it done and I'm not sure how much better Turner makes us.

If we're looking for rim protection, I think you could find it in cheaper ways without including Deuce or just hope that Mitch can come back healthy and provide it for 15-25 minutes a night.

I think the eye test from last year's Pacers series is enough for me to overlook any advanced analytics on what Turner's on-court impact could be.

[thebuzzardman]

Isn't Boucher like slightly souped up Precious, with all the same issues, only older?

[Richard4444]

Can anyone versed in this CBA tell me why we couldn't waive Matt Ryan and sign Chuma Okeke from Westchester? Is Chuma's base minimum more than $2 mil?

Ryan was waived to allow us to sign Shamet.

He is in a 2way deal at the moment.

[Wildcat]

A lot of huff and puff on a Turner deal based on source-less information, i.e., "I've heard, I've heard, I've heard."

[sol537]

After the last few games with our team being healthy and finally "clicking" it seems more likely that Leon and co. will consider standing pat and just adding Mitch to the mix with TJ Warren being added in mid feb as an extra depth insurance piece in place of Matt Ryan.

If Precious and Deuce can continue to give you plus 2-way minutes off the bench, then you don't really need to add anyone else because those guys are Thibs players through and through. No need to rock the boat just as we're kicking into gear...