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2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#221 » by 2weekswithpay » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:09 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:Carter Byrant vs. Adou Thiero vs. Liam McNeeley





I didn't watch a ton of AZ games this year. Why were Bryant's minutes so low? He looks like a baller.


He's raw offensively, and most freshmen won't play over upperclassmen. He started playing 20 mins a night in the second half of the season.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#222 » by Rose2Boozer » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:10 pm

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Rose2Boozer wrote:Carter Byrant vs. Adou Thiero vs. Liam McNeeley





I didn't watch a ton of AZ games this year. Why were Bryant's minutes so low? He looks like a baller.


Its strange because you watch those highlights and you can't help but be excited but we all know what happened with PWill. Is that what we want?


He has solid tools, but he's very raw. The hustle man role was the perfect role for him. To be honest, they could've played him more. It's not like Arizona was this talent filled juggernaut.

Carter Bryant will test well, and he will absolutely shine during the interview process. I wouldn't be surprised if some GM in the lottery falls in love with who he could be in a couple years. AK could be one of those guys. It wouldn't be a PWill type situation, because we're not going to have the fourth pick. Drafting Carter Bryant anywhere from 10-20 wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#223 » by Chi town » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:22 pm

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drosestruts wrote:Any Euro Hoops fans able to fill me in about Joan Beringer?

Dosn't play much which isn't abnormal for young players in the Euroleague. Stats aren't really eye popping.

When watching his highlights though - I really like just how fluid and athletic he looks. A lot of big men often look awkward with their movements, he seems very fluid, looks to have good bounce and good hand eye coordination.

He'll sprint up the court, grab a pass on the move, and gets up quick for his finishes.

Sticks with guards on switches, looks to have great shot blocking instincts.

Again it's more how he looks than anything showing up in the stat sheet. Curious if any Eruoleague watchers have any additional insights on him?




I love the kid,said it couple of times.. he actually played some games a lot, not just European Cup but also ABA league. Those leagues are pretty solid and he just turned 18 few months ago and had to play vs grown man, some hard nosed centers. He was bought by Olimpija to play for junior team, but coach needed only 3 training sessions and he was included to senior team.

He is very mobile, solid skills, very good instincts, high BB IQ, good defender already for his age.. I think he started playing basketball pretty late, few years ago.


Yep. All true.

He’s my guy at 15.

He’s a more explosive Jarret Allen with less offense right now. Kid has a crazy motor, fast jump, and flies up and down the court.

He is the lob threat Giddey needs and the rim protector our defense needs. He has great instincts on D.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#224 » by Chi town » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:24 pm

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I didn't watch a ton of AZ games this year. Why were Bryant's minutes so low? He looks like a baller.


Its strange because you watch those highlights and you can't help but be excited but we all know what happened with PWill. Is that what we want?


He has solid tools, but he's very raw. The hustle man role was the perfect role for him. To be honest, they could've played him more. It's not like Arizona was this talent filled juggernaut.

Carter Bryant will test well, and he will absolutely shine during the interview process. I wouldn't be surprised if some GM in the lottery falls in love with who he could be in a couple years. AK could be one of those guys. It wouldn't be a PWill type situation, because we're not going to have the fourth pick. Drafting Carter Bryant anywhere from 10-20 wouldn't be that much of a stretch.


Fully agree. He has a big personality and flashes some game and athleticism.

He is what PW should be but isn’t. Way better IQ and instincts and motor from Bryant. I still don’t see some great ceiling though.

I’d take Noa and Riley over him.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#225 » by drosestruts » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:18 pm

Chi town wrote:
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drosestruts wrote:Any Euro Hoops fans able to fill me in about Joan Beringer?

Dosn't play much which isn't abnormal for young players in the Euroleague. Stats aren't really eye popping.

When watching his highlights though - I really like just how fluid and athletic he looks. A lot of big men often look awkward with their movements, he seems very fluid, looks to have good bounce and good hand eye coordination.

He'll sprint up the court, grab a pass on the move, and gets up quick for his finishes.

Sticks with guards on switches, looks to have great shot blocking instincts.

Again it's more how he looks than anything showing up in the stat sheet. Curious if any Eruoleague watchers have any additional insights on him?




I love the kid,said it couple of times.. he actually played some games a lot, not just European Cup but also ABA league. Those leagues are pretty solid and he just turned 18 few months ago and had to play vs grown man, some hard nosed centers. He was bought by Olimpija to play for junior team, but coach needed only 3 training sessions and he was included to senior team.

He is very mobile, solid skills, very good instincts, high BB IQ, good defender already for his age.. I think he started playing basketball pretty late, few years ago.


Yep. All true.

He’s my guy at 15.

He’s a more explosive Jarret Allen with less offense right now. Kid has a crazy motor, fast jump, and flies up and down the court.

He is the lob threat Giddey needs and the rim protector our defense needs. He has great instincts on D.



I'm just learning about him - really appreciate the insight WesPeace!

For me I really think nearly every player in this draft - outside of Flagg and Harper - are a project.

I think there's at times a strong bias towards college - it's what we're more exposed to, so it makes sense.

Maluach for instance is the top rated center - do we think Beringer couldn't have had similar success if he played at Duke this past year?

Again - I was only recently exposed to him, but just the way he moves out there makes me very interested.

Read somewhere he's only been playing basketball for 2-3 years
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#226 » by burlydee » Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:35 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:Carter Byrant vs. Adou Thiero vs. Liam McNeeley





I didn't watch a ton of AZ games this year. Why were Bryant's minutes so low? He looks like a baller.


He should have played more. College coaches drive me crazy prioritizing scheme and seniority over talent. If he had been fed minutes from the beginning, he would have been a beast in March. But I digress...

His main issue is that he's not a threat off the dribble. Good shooter, good defender, NBA athleticism. Did nothing off the bounce in college. Kind of like PWill and in a more sane world, like PWill, he'd go back to college and learn to be the "man."

Having said that - he's more naturally aggressive than PWill, but the similarities are there.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

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Post#229 » by CROBulls » Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:50 pm

Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.
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Post#230 » by wolffy » Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:43 pm

CROBulls wrote:Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.


I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#231 » by CROBulls » Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:08 pm

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CROBulls wrote:Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.


I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big

You dont draft for need when you lack superstars. And wings are most valuable players in NBA. Were and still are. We won 6x titles with 2 of them without center in HoF big man era. That kid looks like he belongs to do greater things. There is some fire in his play. And I miss watching hungry players want to great things in Bulls uniform (not hungry for just extension money).

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#232 » by Jvaughn » Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:06 pm

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Jvaughn wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:Carter Byrant vs. Adou Thiero vs. Liam McNeeley





I didn't watch a ton of AZ games this year. Why were Bryant's minutes so low? He looks like a baller.


Its strange because you watch those highlights and you can't help but be excited but we all know what happened with PWill. Is that what we want?


His drive, motor and aggressiveness are higher than Pwills have ever been. While it's not something they can be accurately measured, those traits would make Pwill near all-star level.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#233 » by sco » Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:14 pm

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CROBulls wrote:Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.


I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big

You dont draft for need when you lack superstars. And wings are most valuable players in NBA. Were and still are. We won 6x titles with 2 of them without center in HoF big man era. That kid looks like he belongs to do greater things. There is some fire in his play. And I miss watching hungry players want to great things in Bulls uniform (not hungry for just extension money).


Wow he looks good, but how boring it would be if we just had guys who only dunked and shot 3's...we need more small dudes dribbling around for 20 seconds and chucking up long 2's. If we draft a guy who means we won't have to see PWill play next season, that would not suck.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#234 » by wolffy » Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:57 pm

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CROBulls wrote:Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.


I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big

You dont draft for need when you lack superstars. And wings are most valuable players in NBA. Were and still are. We won 6x titles with 2 of them without center in HoF big man era. That kid looks like he belongs to do greater things. There is some fire in his play. And I miss watching hungry players want to great things in Bulls uniform (not hungry for just extension money).



I agree but i don't see superstar there
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#235 » by CROBulls » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:02 pm

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I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big

You dont draft for need when you lack superstars. And wings are most valuable players in NBA. Were and still are. We won 6x titles with 2 of them without center in HoF big man era. That kid looks like he belongs to do greater things. There is some fire in his play. And I miss watching hungry players want to great things in Bulls uniform (not hungry for just extension money).



I agree but i don't see superstar there

I never said that. I said we lack superstar. And at 10th or 12th you never gonna get chance to draft one, because everyone would draft it before it. That's why you gamble on upside.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#236 » by wolffy » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:19 pm

He looks like he could be a good 3 and D guy. That's great if he turns out to be that especially at this spot but I'd still look for more potential impact
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#237 » by burlydee » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:29 pm

wolffy wrote:
CROBulls wrote:Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.


I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big


Our starting point guard is Josh Giddey.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#238 » by nomorezorro » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:36 pm

a super athletic 3/d/energy wing is like the easiest fit imaginable in a lineup built around giddey/coby/matas
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#239 » by Muzbar » Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:20 pm

Wanted to see what all the fuss about Joan Beringer was, so I watched the highlight video posted in the thread, and I must say, I was thoroughly disappointed.

He looks like a less athletic Jaxson Hayes, if he shoots anything other than a dunk it's looks really awkward and clunky, there's no way I'd take him in the 12-16 range. Late 1st or second round, no problems.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#240 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:55 pm

I'm still a fan of CMB.

Until they can get a legit #1 option, I'd like to see the team to go the Rockets route and continue to acquire high IQ defensive players and build a defense that can blitz guards, and switch 1-5, just be a flat out pest for opposing teams, that alone could work in the East. The team has the guards(re-sign Tre) and wings in place that are developing, but adding a bigger forward like CMB that has weight+wingspan that can handle 4's and some 5s in smaller lineups would be ideal.

With CMB, I understand the worries about the lack of jump shooting but his form doesn't look bad, the misses seem to be in line, and with Peter Patton as a shooting coach maybe it could be developed?


Still learning about the round 2 prospects but seems like there could be good value at center(Rayn Kalbrenner, Maxime Raynaud, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang), or wing shooter(Alex Karaban, Cedric Corward, Koby Brea, Sion James, John Tonje). Using tankathons big boards
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