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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#221 » by bluerap23 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 11:34 pm

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Replacing Lukes with Kyle Tucker is like the warriors going from Harrison Barnes to KD lmao


That only really happens if Bo leaves, Barger is moved to third and Clement and Gimenez shuffle around. Otherwise our OF would be Varsho, Barger and Santander.


Have to think beyond next season too. Santander will be full-time DH after next year.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#222 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Nov 6, 2025 11:42 pm

If Bo isn't signed, Barger should absolutely be converted to a full-time 3B. He's better defensively at that position and it is much harder to find good 3B options at the MLB level than it is to find good OF options.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#223 » by JCP11 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 11:44 pm

The offseason plan is simple for me, bring back Bo and then try to upgrade pitching as much as possible. People talk about upgrading Varsho, I don't think it's necessary. We had the best offense in baseball with Bo and Vlad missing time and Santander injured. Hopefully Yimi is back healthy, find a closer and maybe a trade for a starter.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#224 » by JaysRule25 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:02 am

Right now it looks like the rotation is

Gausman
Yesavage
Bieber
Berrios
Lauer

Francis as the 6th guy.

That's a pretty risky rotation considering we're asking a lot out of a 35 year old Gausman, a relatively unproven rookie in Yesavage and Bieber looking decent, but not ace-like by any means. Berrios looked pretty bad for the second half of 2025 and Lauer is still pretty uncertain to keep up what he did in 2025. Would love to add another decent starter to this mix and push Lauer into the pen. They might also move to bring Bassitt back, but idk how good he'd be in the rotation either.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#225 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:05 am

JaysRule25 wrote:Right now it looks like the rotation is

Gausman
Yesavage
Bieber
Berrios
Lauer

Francis as the 6th guy.

That's a pretty risky rotation considering we're asking a lot out of a 35 year old Gausman, a relatively unproven rookie in Yesavage and Bieber looking decent, but not ace-like by any means. Berrios looked pretty bad for the second half of 2025 and Lauer is still pretty uncertain to keep up what he did in 2025. Would love to add another decent starter to this mix and push Lauer into the pen. They might also move to bring Bassitt back, but idk how good he'd be in the rotation either.

They'll be adding at least one more quality SP and maybe two. Berrios may keep a starter's role only due to the contract.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#226 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:05 am

Also, Fairbanks just became a FA. Sign him so we don't have to face him any longer and make him closer.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#227 » by Cyrus » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:24 am

Don Mattingly not back as bench coach...
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#228 » by Mehar » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:31 am

JaysRule25 wrote:Right now it looks like the rotation is

Gausman
Yesavage
Bieber
Berrios
Lauer

Francis as the 6th guy.

That's a pretty risky rotation considering we're asking a lot out of a 35 year old Gausman, a relatively unproven rookie in Yesavage and Bieber looking decent, but not ace-like by any means. Berrios looked pretty bad for the second half of 2025 and Lauer is still pretty uncertain to keep up what he did in 2025. Would love to add another decent starter to this mix and push Lauer into the pen. They might also move to bring Bassitt back, but idk how good he'd be in the rotation either.


Do not want Bassitt back as a Starter, since he was pretty mediocre to bad for nearly two months this year. Lauer is my 6th guy, Berrios (due to his contract) is my 5th Guy. You need another Front of the Rotation Starter. I would take a run at Michael King. His contract will also be reasonable, since he was not healthy for three months, after being a very good starting pitcher the past couple of years. He had good numbers when he did pitch in games this year though.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#229 » by COY0607 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:48 am

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JaysRule25 wrote:Right now it looks like the rotation is

Gausman
Yesavage
Bieber
Berrios
Lauer

Francis as the 6th guy.

That's a pretty risky rotation considering we're asking a lot out of a 35 year old Gausman, a relatively unproven rookie in Yesavage and Bieber looking decent, but not ace-like by any means. Berrios looked pretty bad for the second half of 2025 and Lauer is still pretty uncertain to keep up what he did in 2025. Would love to add another decent starter to this mix and push Lauer into the pen. They might also move to bring Bassitt back, but idk how good he'd be in the rotation either.

They'll be adding at least one more quality SP and maybe two. Berrios may keep a starter's role only due to the contract.


Considering how aggressively they chased starting pitching last off season, I fully expect them to add at least 1 and maybe even 2 starters. With one of them being a high end SP

I personally like Lauer as a long man in the bullpen. Not having a multi inning guy really hurt them this year, they had to abuse the bullpen in the first half.

And I think we’re collectively undervaluing Berios. Not saying he’s going to be a top-3 starter, but he could be a really good back end starter. He’ll give you 150+ innings and keep it competitive on most nights
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#230 » by polo007 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:27 am


Toronto Blue Jays FULL 2025 Year-End Press Conference

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Toronto Blue Jays president Mark Shapiro and General Manager Ross Atkins address the media at the team's 2025 year-end press conference.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#231 » by Madvillainy2004 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:31 am

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Replacing Lukes with Kyle Tucker is like the warriors going from Harrison Barnes to KD lmao


That only really happens if Bo leaves, Barger is moved to third and Clement and Gimenez shuffle around. Otherwise our OF would be Varsho, Barger and Santander.


Have to think beyond next season too. Santander will be full-time DH after next year.


Yeah if were really going for it we can shuffle around Tony/Springer/Barger/Clement/Gimenezt/Bichette for a season. Give lots of guys plently of rest etc. I highly doubt we get Tucker and Bo but I think theres a way we can make it work with everyone.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#232 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:02 am

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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#233 » by spykelee » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:27 am

Mehar wrote:
JaysRule25 wrote:Right now it looks like the rotation is

Gausman
Yesavage
Bieber
Berrios
Lauer

Francis as the 6th guy.

That's a pretty risky rotation considering we're asking a lot out of a 35 year old Gausman, a relatively unproven rookie in Yesavage and Bieber looking decent, but not ace-like by any means. Berrios looked pretty bad for the second half of 2025 and Lauer is still pretty uncertain to keep up what he did in 2025. Would love to add another decent starter to this mix and push Lauer into the pen. They might also move to bring Bassitt back, but idk how good he'd be in the rotation either.


Do not want Bassitt back as a Starter, since he was pretty mediocre to bad for nearly two months this year. Lauer is my 6th guy, Berrios (due to his contract) is my 5th Guy. You need another Front of the Rotation Starter. I would take a run at Michael King. His contract will also be reasonable, since he was not healthy for three months, after being a very good starting pitcher the past couple of years. He had good numbers when he did pitch in games this year though.


I actually would love to see Bassitt back as a swing man in the pen and maybe even as high leverage at the end of games. 6 pitches outta the pen for an inning or 2 plays well IMO. Michael King would be a great addition to the rotation no doubt. Lots of good options out there on that front.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#234 » by COY0607 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:47 am

polo007 wrote:
Toronto Blue Jays FULL 2025 Year-End Press Conference

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November 6, 2025

Toronto Blue Jays president Mark Shapiro and General Manager Ross Atkins address the media at the team's 2025 year-end press conference.


The opening monologue is really well put. Worth a listen
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#235 » by Mehar » Fri Nov 7, 2025 3:12 am

spykelee wrote:
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JaysRule25 wrote:Right now it looks like the rotation is

Gausman
Yesavage
Bieber
Berrios
Lauer

Francis as the 6th guy.

That's a pretty risky rotation considering we're asking a lot out of a 35 year old Gausman, a relatively unproven rookie in Yesavage and Bieber looking decent, but not ace-like by any means. Berrios looked pretty bad for the second half of 2025 and Lauer is still pretty uncertain to keep up what he did in 2025. Would love to add another decent starter to this mix and push Lauer into the pen. They might also move to bring Bassitt back, but idk how good he'd be in the rotation either.


Do not want Bassitt back as a Starter, since he was pretty mediocre to bad for nearly two months this year. Lauer is my 6th guy, Berrios (due to his contract) is my 5th Guy. You need another Front of the Rotation Starter. I would take a run at Michael King. His contract will also be reasonable, since he was not healthy for three months, after being a very good starting pitcher the past couple of years. He had good numbers when he did pitch in games this year though.


I actually would love to see Bassitt back as a swing man in the pen and maybe even as high leverage at the end of games. 6 pitches outta the pen for an inning or 2 plays well IMO. Michael King would be a great addition to the rotation no doubt. Lots of good options out there on that front.

I would not mind Bassitt in the bullpen, and would be willing to bring him back in that role. However, he still wants to be a Starting Pitcher every five days. That is why I would move on from him.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#236 » by Asianiac_24 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 9:12 am

If Bassitt would come back for cheap, IMO we don't really need more SPs. We can run a 6 man rotation and use the money we would have used on a front of the line SP to sign some high end relievers (Diaz, Williams, etc). Run a 6 man rotation of Gausman/Yesavage/Bieber/Berrios/Lauer/Bassitt. I think that would help Berrios and Bassitt a lot with their velo with more rest.

It's paramount we either keep Bo at 2B or get a big bat like Tucker, preferably Tucker. Springer is not likely to post another 950 OPS season again.

Varsho at 10M is a must keep. We can afford to lose out on batting in the two most important defensive positions SS/CF, which is what we have setup (Giminez/Varsho).
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#237 » by polo007 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 10:14 am


‘If Jays match the money, I think Bo’s willingness is there’: Matheson on Bichette contract decision

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November 6, 2025

Blue Jays president and CEO Mark Shapiro and general manager Ross Atkins spoke to the media Thursday to discuss the end to the season and began answering some of the looming questions as they enter the offseason. Blue Jays reporter Keegan Matheson joins SC with Jay Onrait to discuss Bo Bichette's future, whether Toronto can 'run it back' next season and much more.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#238 » by Harry Palmer » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:03 pm

If he’ll play second, i’m much more enthusiastic about bringing him back than I expected to be. His style of hitting really fits with our approach, and he more than even Vladdy or George tended to be the guy with the timeliest of big hits.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#239 » by brwnman » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:13 pm

It's probably the WS high, and everyone wants Bo signed, but this is practically the same team that flamed out the previous year. They got contributions from unexpected contributors this year and I don't know if it's reasonable to expect that going into next year.

How are the Jays going to build around the core of Bo/Vlad? Right now, the only way to do it is by spending $$... but at some point, that well is going to be tapped dry. Will they finally build a pipeline to supplement the ML club, or will it just be via Free Agency?
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Post#240 » by Raptors Realtor » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:35 pm

brwnman wrote:It's probably the WS high, and everyone wants Bo signed, but this is practically the same team that flamed out the previous year. They got contributions from unexpected contributors this year and I don't know if it's reasonable to expect that going into next year.

How are the Jays going to build around the core of Bo/Vlad? Right now, the only way to do it is by spending $$... but at some point, that well is going to be tapped dry. Will they finally build a pipeline to supplement the ML club, or will it just be via Free Agency?


I hear what you're saying, and you're not wrong, some regresssion by the likes of an aging Springer wouldn't be surprising. However, I think the difference between this year's team versus recent previous seasons is the very underrated addition of Popkins last offseason. This team had a far better approach at the plate, was well prepared to face not only our opponents starters, but their relief pitchers as well, hence all our late inning comeback wins this season. I think Popkins needs to be locked up asap to a long term contract because he's going to catch the attention of rival teams, if he hasn't already, and we don't need the likes of the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, etc starting to pursue him at the earliest opportunity.

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