2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring

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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2241 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:47 pm

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Hope he's right, otherwise everyone will laugh at this next offseason :-?


At least it's interesting to see him this vocal about it. With Durant, the team was taking more of a 'Let's not talk about and not make it something it's not' approach iirc.


Totally agree. He's acting like a true leader. Problem with Durant was that Westbrook was option B and second best player on the team so he had to let Durant some kind of ''fake'' leadership.
Now roles are pretty clear with Westbrook being the true leader on and off the court.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2242 » by thekaoswithin » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:52 pm

Bruh, this place been dead for a week now
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2243 » by spearsy23 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:00 am

Kinda nice to see Russ and KD putting stuff behind them. I'm over it, the move was one of the weakest in NBA history, but that's on court and not that big of a deal in terms of him as a person. the way he did Russ is even weaker but I'm assuming he apologized since they've moved on, so who am I to hold on to it? I still think less of him, but no reason to stay mad.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2244 » by bondom34 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:30 am

I'll always sports hate him more than anyone but glad its done with if it is. Been off and on watching this game and have no clue what happened at halftime.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2245 » by bondom34 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:08 am

Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals
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Post#2246 » by Pillendreher » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:06 am

spearsy23 wrote:Kinda nice to see Russ and KD putting stuff behind them. I'm over it, the move was one of the weakest in NBA history, but that's on court and not that big of a deal in terms of him as a person. the way he did Russ is even weaker but I'm assuming he apologized since they've moved on, so who am I to hold on to it? I still think less of him, but no reason to stay mad.

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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2247 » by Pillendreher » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:50 am

bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


That's not telling me all that much. They should add 'Box Out %' (How consistently do players box out when the rebound is in their vicinity) and also split it between offense and defense.

Regarding the Player Tracking in the boxscore: They have Melo at 32/68 (47 %) on contested shots and 29/94 (31 %) on uncontested shots over his last 10 games. No wonder his shooting has been complete ass. :o

Is there any way to review these tracking stats for the whole season?
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2248 » by RalphSampsonJr » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:35 am

bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


Love having these stats available.
Too many people dont give Adams the credit he deserves because his basic boxscore stats arent very eye opening.
These advanced stats however! He is near the top in almost all of these.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2249 » by Pillendreher » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:18 pm

It should not be possible to shoot this inefficiently while taking that many 3s.

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This is a very underrated aspect of this season.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2250 » by getrichordie » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:57 pm

bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


Interesting to see Kanter up there with Adams. Also, I love me some Ed Davis. :nod:
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2251 » by getrichordie » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:22 pm

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Would be an interesting guy to watch out for, especially since robes likely doesn't come back at full capacity.


I don't know how we would have a chance to get him unless we can finagle some kind of trade.
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Post#2252 » by InTheSabonus » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:36 am

bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


What else I gained from that: Adams is 15th in contested 3 point shots. Our rim protector and an incredibly gifted rebounder. In the top 15 of defended 3 point shots.

What else is there to say at this point.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2253 » by thekaoswithin » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:04 am

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bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


What else I gained from that: Adams is 15th in contested 3 point shots. Our rim protector and an incredibly gifted rebounder. In the top 15 of defended 3 point shots.

What else is there to say at this point.



Our PG is lazy and doesn't defend properly.
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Post#2254 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:17 am

thekaoswithin wrote:
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bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


What else I gained from that: Adams is 15th in contested 3 point shots. Our rim protector and an incredibly gifted rebounder. In the top 15 of defended 3 point shots.

What else is there to say at this point.



Our PG is lazy and doesn't defend properly.

Explain how this follows.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2255 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:26 am

InTheSabonus wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Also, NBA.com added new hustle stats including box out s and defended against
FGs in box scores (not buying accuracy on this one though due to the old one being not great). Leader in box outs?
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=BOX_OUTS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals


What else I gained from that: Adams is 15th in contested 3 point shots. Our rim protector and an incredibly gifted rebounder. In the top 15 of defended 3 point shots.

What else is there to say at this point.

3 out of our top 5 in 3pt contests are power forwards or Center. That's a scheme issue. Also we have 3 players in the top 20 and would have 4 if Dre was healthy, we give up 3 pointers like they are candy and it's Halloween.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2256 » by Balkman32 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:08 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Kinda nice to see Russ and KD putting stuff behind them. I'm over it, the move was one of the weakest in NBA history, but that's on court and not that big of a deal in terms of him as a person. the way he did Russ is even weaker but I'm assuming he apologized since they've moved on, so who am I to hold on to it? I still think less of him, but no reason to stay mad.


I mean I don't think its behind him. He's just not mean mugging him @ all times. There wont ever be a time where Russ does not go 100% @ Durant.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2257 » by getrichordie » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:47 am

Man, I really feel like we missed out on Derrick White. It would have been nice to trade back our pick and acquire more assets and still get a guy like White. I really liked him coming out of the draft and was surprised he dropped to 29th.

He's 6'4 with a 6'8 wingspan and just from watching his interviews, he seems intelligent and poised for being so young.

nbadraft.net wrote:White has good size for a lead guard at 6’5” with a 6’8” wingspan and is comfortable playing either guard spot. His size allows him to see over the top of most defenders where he can utilize his passing ability and be a primary facilitator in an offense ... White always plays with his head up in transition and is able to recognize passing lanes by seeing over the top of the defense with his size ... He is willing passer that plays with good patience, and he does a good job of finding big men ducking in from the post area or kicking out to shooters off the drive or from the perimeter ... His size, combined with good elevation also allows him to pull up in the mid-range area over longer defenders ... Although he is not a great athlete, his combination of size and length allows him to finish above the rim in space with ease ... As a defender, he is disruptive with his length, does a good job of getting in passing lanes to force turnovers, and contest shots ... White’s greatest strength is most likely his versatility as a scorer ...


He just seems like a guy who would be ready to impact the game now at both the 1 and 2 spot. I think we will regret taking Ferguson over White in a few years.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2258 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:09 pm

getrichordie wrote:Man, I really feel like we missed out on Derrick White. It would have been nice to trade back our pick and acquire more assets and still get a guy like White. I really liked him coming out of the draft and was surprised he dropped to 29th.

He's 6'4 with a 6'8 wingspan and just from watching his interviews, he seems intelligent and poised for being so young.

nbadraft.net wrote:White has good size for a lead guard at 6’5” with a 6’8” wingspan and is comfortable playing either guard spot. His size allows him to see over the top of most defenders where he can utilize his passing ability and be a primary facilitator in an offense ... White always plays with his head up in transition and is able to recognize passing lanes by seeing over the top of the defense with his size ... He is willing passer that plays with good patience, and he does a good job of finding big men ducking in from the post area or kicking out to shooters off the drive or from the perimeter ... His size, combined with good elevation also allows him to pull up in the mid-range area over longer defenders ... Although he is not a great athlete, his combination of size and length allows him to finish above the rim in space with ease ... As a defender, he is disruptive with his length, does a good job of getting in passing lanes to force turnovers, and contest shots ... White’s greatest strength is most likely his versatility as a scorer ...


He just seems like a guy who would be ready to impact the game now at both the 1 and 2 spot. I think we will regret taking Ferguson over White in a few years.

I liked the Ferguson pick and I haven’t given up on him. That being said, it’s disappointing how many other rookies are playing better, especially those taken after him- Jarrett Allen, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, OG, Jordan Bell, etc.
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Re: 2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring 

Post#2259 » by slick_watts » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:06 pm

sam presti knows that this team is all-in. he's aggressive and will make a move at the deadline.

it takes two teams to make a trade, and the thunder just didn't have the assets. but expect the thunder to bolster the roster in a robust buyout market.

buyouts need to be agreed to by the player, and lots of players prefer to not leave money on the table. besides, sam presti is comfortable rolling with the shooting guard by committee to collectively fill the holes.

the radically changing narrative of the thunder media and casual fanbase has been awe inspiring this season.
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Post#2260 » by Pillendreher » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:57 pm

slick_watts wrote:sam presti knows that this team is all-in. he's aggressive and will make a move at the deadline.

it takes two teams to make a trade, and the thunder just didn't have the assets. but expect the thunder to bolster the roster in a robust buyout market.

buyouts need to be agreed to by the player, and lots of players prefer to not leave money on the table. besides, sam presti is comfortable rolling with the shooting guard by committee to collectively fill the holes.

the radically changing narrative of the thunder media and casual fanbase has been awe inspiring this season.

This isn't new tho. It has been going on for years.
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