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Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:16 am
by BlueSan
he is the closest in this picture so that gives a bit of a distorted view, but the guy is 6,8-6,9

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:40 am
by batigol18
wolfram wrote:Is Doncic a lot taller than we think or he wears some crazy a** shoes?
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Shved (middle guy) is 6'6.
Veseli (next to Doncic) is 7'0

I would say he is much closer to Vesely than Shved to Doncic...

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:48 am
by Rn5ho
Also his frame/head look huge compared to other guys lol. He's really gonna be a tank like his father.

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:23 am
by DryPaint
batigol18 wrote:
wolfram wrote:Is Doncic a lot taller than we think or he wears some crazy a** shoes?
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Shved (middle guy) is 6'6.
Veseli (next to Doncic) is 7'0

I would say he is much closer to Vesely than Shved to Doncic...


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if you want to look at it objective, you have to take perspective into consideration. and adding that the photographs were using wide lenses + photo reporters were standing near the podium, each small difference in distance gets maximized even more.

both blue circles are the same size. meaning one covers shveds award perfect, the other at doncic appears smaller then doncics award.

doncic is also standing closer to the photographer by a good 20 -30 cm wich is a huge difference for a wide angle photo lense.

you cant really make estimates like that based on a photo. not with even remote correct conclusions that is.
for fun, you can.

doncic is a legit 6ft8 without shoes.

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:17 pm
by King Ken
BlueSan wrote:he is the closest in this picture so that gives a bit of a distorted view, but the guy is 6,8-6,9

It's way too hard to tell

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:22 pm
by King Ken
Don7 wrote:Luka is closer to 6-9 then Bird was to 6-11..

False, Bird was a legit 6'11. Luka in games looks 6'6, 6'7 range
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:14 pm
by Don7
Luka in games looks 6'6, 6'7 range


It looks to you.To me he looks 6-8 at least..But none of that matters.

https://elpais.com/deportes/2017/02/15/actualidad/1487163390_674923.html

Ahora mismo estoy en 2,02m sin zapatillas y creo que me queda otro poco. De momento está bien.


"I am 6-7.25 without shoes and i believe i will grow a little more."

The interview for most prestige Spanish newspaper was before his 18 birthday so more then year ago..
So even if he did not grow anything since then he´s steel 6-8 , 6-8.25 in shoes..
He doesn't have any reason to lie for El Pais,it wouldn't help his draft stock xD

I really can't believe how some could watch few games of Luka and believe hes 6-6/6-7...



Cancar and Zagorac are 6-9..I know , photo , angles , this and that.

He will probably be listed as 6-8 in nba but i wouldn't be surprised if he was 6-9

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:37 pm
by King Ken
Don7 wrote:
Luka in games looks 6'6, 6'7 range


It looks to you.To me he looks 6-8 at least..But none of that matters.

https://elpais.com/deportes/2017/02/15/actualidad/1487163390_674923.html

Ahora mismo estoy en 2,02m sin zapatillas y creo que me queda otro poco. De momento está bien.


"I am 6-7.25 without shoes and i believe i will grow a little more."

The interview for most prestige Spanish newspaper was before his 18 birthday so more then year ago..
So even if he did not grow anything since then he´s steel 6-8 , 6-8.25 in shoes..
He doesn't have any reason to lie for El Pais,it wouldn't help his draft stock xD

I really can't believe how some could watch few games of Luka and believe hes 6-6/6-7...



Cancar and Zagorac are 6-9..I know , photo , angles , this and that.

He will probably be listed as 6-8 in nba but i wouldn't be surprised if he was 6-9

The bolded is all that needed to be stated

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:48 pm
by BlueSan
King Ken wrote:
Don7 wrote:Luka is closer to 6-9 then Bird was to 6-11..

False, Bird was a legit 6'11. Luka in games looks 6'6, 6'7 range
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"I was almost six-four as a junior, six-six or so as a senior and I grew to Six-Nine. It's an entirely different game when you're Six-Nine."

arry Bird - #33 - Boston Celtics
Small Forward | 6'9" | 220 lbs. | Born: December 7, 1956
Played all 13 seasons with Celtics
Three-time NBA champion
Three-time NBA MVP
No. 33 retired by Celtics
Named to NBA's 50th anniversary team
Twelve-time NBA All-Star
Two-time NBA Finals MVP
Three-time Three-point Shootout champion
Member of the 1992 Dream Team
Nine-time All-NBA First Team
Drafted sixth overall by the Boston Celtics in the 1978 NBA Draft.

OFFICIAL Boston Celtic's site.

So yep he was 6,9

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:08 pm
by King Ken
BlueSan wrote:
King Ken wrote:
Don7 wrote:Luka is closer to 6-9 then Bird was to 6-11..

False, Bird was a legit 6'11. Luka in games looks 6'6, 6'7 range
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"I was almost six-four as a junior, six-six or so as a senior and I grew to Six-Nine. It's an entirely different game when you're Six-Nine."

arry Bird - #33 - Boston Celtics
Small Forward | 6'9" | 220 lbs. | Born: December 7, 1956
Played all 13 seasons with Celtics
Three-time NBA champion
Three-time NBA MVP
No. 33 retired by Celtics
Named to NBA's 50th anniversary team
Twelve-time NBA All-Star
Two-time NBA Finals MVP
Three-time Three-point Shootout champion
Member of the 1992 Dream Team
Nine-time All-NBA First Team
Drafted sixth overall by the Boston Celtics in the 1978 NBA Draft.

OFFICIAL Boston Celtic's site.

So yep he was 6,9

KD claims hes 6'9 too when hes clearly taller

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:36 pm
by Mirotic12
J_T wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:About the Final Four MVP, remember that they changed the award last year. They added the online fan vote..........yeah if it was before the fan vote got added, Caseur or Thompkins would have probably been the Final Four MVP. But the fan vote for sure was going to go to Doncic by an enormous amount probably.

Classic. Proven wrong and the response - instead of "I was wrong" - is :

Mirotic12 wrote:Yeah, but ...


If it really was so obvious and clear to every basketball expert that f.e. Thompson factually objectively deserved it (and there is no discussion about that!), he could have easily received 24 votes and win the MVP with 24 votes vs. Ali's 6 and Doncic's 2 points. Yeah, but... but... but... :D


The award was clearly up for 3 players, so the vote would have been split 3 ways by the media. The fan vote gave Doncic an advantage. Under any measure that fan vote tips the scale mathematically in a 3 way race. I never said Doncic did not deserve it (I would have voted for him myself, although Thompkins had the best finals game), I just stated what was obvious - the fan vote does tip the scales in such votes.

As for this constant "Doncic is 6-9" discussion here....

Doncic is not 6-9. Very clearly Khryapa (6-9 in shoes) was taller than him in the CSKA game. I don't see why so many people keep wanting to make him taller than he is. He's clearly shorter than Felipe Reyes, who is supposedly 6-9 in shoes.

He's about 6-8 in shoes, which is good size even for a small forward. No reason to keep exaggerating his height here all the time.

As far as Bird, it's well-known he was about 6-10 in shoes. So about 2 inches taller than Doncic. And that Magic was really about 6-8 in shoes, so about the same height as Doncic.

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:37 pm
by Nikson
Mirotic12 wrote:
J_T wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:About the Final Four MVP, remember that they changed the award last year. They added the online fan vote..........yeah if it was before the fan vote got added, Caseur or Thompkins would have probably been the Final Four MVP. But the fan vote for sure was going to go to Doncic by an enormous amount probably.

Classic. Proven wrong and the response - instead of "I was wrong" - is :

Mirotic12 wrote:Yeah, but ...


If it really was so obvious and clear to every basketball expert that f.e. Thompson factually objectively deserved it (and there is no discussion about that!), he could have easily received 24 votes and win the MVP with 24 votes vs. Ali's 6 and Doncic's 2 points. Yeah, but... but... but... :D


The award was clearly up for 3 players, so the vote would have been split 3 ways by the media. The fan vote gave Doncic an advantage. Under any measure that fan vote tips the scale mathematically in a 3 way race. I never said Doncic did not deserve it (I would have voted for him myself, although Thompkins had the best finals game), I just stated what was obvious - the fan vote does tip the scales in such votes.

As for this constant "Doncic is 6-9" discussion here....

Doncic is not 6-9. Very clearly Khryapa (6-9 in shoes) was taller than him in the CSKA game. I don't see why so many people keep wanting to make him taller than he is. He's clearly shorter than Felipe Reyes, who is supposedly 6-9 in shoes.

He's about 6-8 in shoes, which is good size even for a small forward. No reason to keep exaggerating his height here all the time.

As far as Bird, it's well-known he was about 6-10 in shoes. So about 2 inches taller than Doncic. And that Magic was really about 6-8 in shoes, so about the same height as Doncic.

Thompkins and Couzer would be a f4 candidates if they played both games.

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:15 pm
by burek3
Their roles didnt permit them to be mvps unless they posted ungodly numbers.

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:55 pm
by Dr Positivity
BlueSan wrote:
King Ken wrote:
Don7 wrote:Luka is closer to 6-9 then Bird was to 6-11..

False, Bird was a legit 6'11. Luka in games looks 6'6, 6'7 range
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"I was almost six-four as a junior, six-six or so as a senior and I grew to Six-Nine. It's an entirely different game when you're Six-Nine."

arry Bird - #33 - Boston Celtics
Small Forward | 6'9" | 220 lbs. | Born: December 7, 1956
Played all 13 seasons with Celtics
Three-time NBA champion
Three-time NBA MVP
No. 33 retired by Celtics
Named to NBA's 50th anniversary team
Twelve-time NBA All-Star
Two-time NBA Finals MVP
Three-time Three-point Shootout champion
Member of the 1992 Dream Team
Nine-time All-NBA First Team
Drafted sixth overall by the Boston Celtics in the 1978 NBA Draft.

OFFICIAL Boston Celtic's site.

So yep he was 6,9


In older days they measured in socks. Bird can be 6'9 in real life but around 6'10-6'10.5 in NBA measurements taking into account he shoes

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 6:48 am
by DryPaint

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:12 am
by burek3
Anyways, it's business as usual again... ACB match today Herbalife-R. Madrid @ 20:30 CET

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:55 am
by Bob8
DryPaint wrote:https://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blogs-local/deandre-ayton-or-luka-doncic-arizona-wildcats-alum-dusan-ristic-weighs-in


Unique perspective? Because he comes from Serbia? :D

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:07 am
by BlueSan
It's ok, if I was in his position I would say the same

I do have a very interesting "video" or rather data for you guys though

Out of about 250 attempts he had just 2 catch and shoot corner 3 attempts in other words his 3 points % like we have been discussing all this time is due to him taking hard shots, sometimes he does it on himself, but a lot of the times it is because of the situations the team is getting itself in and thus "forcing" Doncic's hand into shooting those.


Watch on YouTube

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:16 am
by Bob8
burek3 wrote:Anyways, it's business as usual again... ACB match today Herbalife-R. Madrid @ 20:30 CET


I’m 99.9% sure Luka won’t play today. The game is meaningless.

Re: Luka Doncic Part III

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:38 am
by Archx
Bob8 wrote:
burek3 wrote:Anyways, it's business as usual again... ACB match today Herbalife-R. Madrid @ 20:30 CET


I’m 99.9% sure Luka won’t play today. The game is meaningless.


I think he will play but will take it very easy. And he will also play only like 20 mins... There are no euroleague games in betwen anymore so no point in sitting out Doncic unless he is dead tired.