Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[Maverick41]

Let's keep the conversation civil, some of the namecalling is uncalled for. I know I played a part in some of the tensions so I apologize for that. Frustrations get in the way sometimes and I think we're all frustrated in some way. We care about our team and all just want want the team to succeed.

Now to keep on topic. This tweet from Dudley on Kidd is encouraging:

Jason Kidd was a great coach in Milwaukee. The man single handedly change the culture.. One of the biggest turn arounds from one year to the next in NBA history. I personally saw what he did for Middleton and Giannis. He laid the foundation for them winning the chip this year..

While I'm iffy on the Kidd signing, he did significantly help Giannis and Middleton's development. In his playing career, Kidd also always did a good job of making his teammates better. What I'm interested more then anything is how Kidd will develop KP.

[Maverick41]

I like the idea of trying for Anfernee Simons for this exact reason you mention here.
i.e., he can shoot well and put it on the floor too.
He might be get-able for a Josh Green.
Simons can run point with the 2nd unit for now and perhaps,
grow into a good secondary playmaker with Luka in the starting 5.
At 6'4", one can hope he provides a little more than Brunson on defense too.

I really like the idea of Simons on the team. He has relatively good size, can shoot and is athletic. If he was gettable for Josh Green, I would love that move. Honestly though, I see the Blazers keeping him as insurance for Lillard leaving. But I agree for sure, that's the type of player that I hope we pursue.

[LAL1947]

I really like the idea of Simons on the team. He has relatively good size, can shoot and is athletic. If he was gettable for Josh Green, I would love that move. Honestly though, I see the Blazers keeping him as insurance for Lillard leaving. But I agree for sure, that's the type of player that I hope we pursue.

If Dame leaves, then he'll be one for them to keep.
If Dame and CJ stay, they need to pay Anfernee 2 years sooner than Josh Green.
It resets a rookie contract and gives them a defensive SG-SF to use with Dame, CJ, Norman.

Anyway, there are many players between 20-25 in the league who the Mavs should be scouting for fit/growth.
They need to work on getting the next Mikal Bridges before their value blows up.
A few years ago, the Suns had Bridges, TJ Warren, Oubre and Josh Jackson on their roster as SF depth.
And they didn't know who they wanted to go with, so Bridges could have been gotten for cheap.
There are opportunities like this all the time... Anfernee and Reddish are two that stand out.

Dejounte Murray is another who may be surplus to requirements at the Spurs, but who will cost more.
Even though he's not a great 3PT shooter, I like that he defends well for a play-maker.

[Maverick41]

There are opportunities like this all the time... Anfernee and Reddish are just two that stand out to me for now.

Cam is an interesting one. His shooting numbers were terrible all season but in the playoffs, he looked great. Has size, defends well and he was technically a Mavs pick since his pick was from the Luka-Trae trade. Both him and Huerter are going to be due for a raise soon and with Collins getting that huge contract. it makes at least one of them expendable particularly if they are able to dump Gallo's contract. Not sure how realistic but it's nice seeing other ideas beyond Dragic and Markkanen.

[LAL1947]

Cam is an interesting one. His shooting numbers were terrible all season but in the playoffs, he looked great. Has size, defends well and he was technically a Mavs pick since his pick was from the Luka-Trae trade.

Would be cool if Reddish came around full-circle, right? Haha.

It's the flashes here and there that make you wonder if he's worth a punt... and the inconsistent regular season that may make him available at an attainable price. Depending on the price paid, Mavs wouldn't even need him to become a star, a consistent 3&D guy with his measurements will do just fine.

[arkuo]

Cam is an interesting one. His shooting numbers were terrible all season but in the playoffs, he looked great. Has size, defends well and he was technically a Mavs pick since his pick was from the Luka-Trae trade.

Would be cool if Reddish came around full-circle, right? Haha.

It's the flashes here and there that make you wonder if he's worth a punt... and the inconsistent regular season that may make him available at an attainable price. Depending on the price paid, Mavs wouldn't even need him to become a star, a consistent 3&D guy with his measurements will do just fine.

Cam is a boom or bust pick. Can turn into anyone beween Paul George or Bruno Caboclo if you're unlucky. With Luka being 22, I think they have time to see what he can turn into. Provided the cost isn't too high that you send value out.

[Mavrelous]

It's interesting what's the asking price for Eric Gordon, he can be a great sixth man, and a guy who can create his own shot off the dribble, I think Powell + Burke should be enough to get him, maybe an extra 2nd rd pick.

[41Dirk41]

I don't see noone should trade a player for Powell+Burke... Neither the Rockets for John Albatros Wall.

[Mavrelous]

I don't see noone should trade a player for Powell+Burke... Neither the Rockets for John Albatros Wall.

Gordon is clearly looking out of the rebuilding situation, they want to give the keys to Jalen Green and KPJ, and the trade saves them 9 millions, add to that the fact they are short in big men, I think it's a good trade, Houston fan suggested it on trade board BTW.

[daoneandonly]

I don't see noone should trade a player for Powell+Burke... Neither the Rockets for John Albatros Wall.

Gordon is clearly looking out of the rebuilding situation, they want to give the keys to Jalen Green and KPJ, and the trade saves them 9 millions, add to that the fact they are short in big men, I think it's a good trade, Houston fan suggested it on trade board BTW.

Yup, as long as we're only giving up Burke/Powell and nothing else, makes sense to do

[Mavrelous]

This is a tweak of a trade from the GB

Trade 1:
TOR trades: Dragic
TOR receives: Lamb + WCS

DAL trades: Powell + WCS
DAL receive: Dragic

Indy trades: Lamb + 2nd
Indy receives: TPE

OKC trade: TPE
OKC receives: Powell + 2nd

Trade 2:
DAL trades: JRich TPE
DAL receives: Favors from OKC (compensation for taking Powell)

If TOR wants Moses Brown, they can take him also.


DAL downgrades Powell to Favors (yes, I think it's a downgrade), but get Dragic, TOR trades Dragic for 2 useful expiring deals, Indy gets room under the tax.

[LAL1947]

Eric Gordon... @ 32 years today... on a 3 year contract... how does that move any needle at all?

A move for an older guy like this would be dead last on my list TBH, no offense intended.

Unless you really, really wanna replicate Harden-ball with a worse cast to see if there'll be a different outcome.

[arkuo]

No use for additional bench guys for the sake of making a move. Just give the additional minutes to Reggie Bullock or Sterling Brown.

What you need to look for is someone to replace THJ when he can be packaged in another deal because he was never in the cards to begin with. They were looking at Lowry to be a starter. THJ would have walked if he signed.

[daoneandonly]

The guy that needs to go is KP, then Powell, then see if Brunson can return any value.

[Mavrelous]

Bullock, Brown, Maxi, DFS, Powell, and to great extent THJ and KP can't create offense off the dribble, Gordon can, he has 2 years contract, last year not guaranteed.

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[41Dirk41]

We can't trade KP this year, his value is too low and don't make sense dump him.

Gordon is perfect 6man but i don't want give up too many assest...

[arkuo]

It's been reported that Boston may look to deal Kris Dunn again to clear the log jam they have at the guard spot. They were not expecting the Dennis Schroeder signing yet here we are.

Powell + 2nd for Dunn + Langford works. Here's why.

Dunn is expiring. Powell is signed on for 1 more year. Langford is signed on for 2 more years. They cancel out with the Mavs taking on someone who extends 1 year longer than Powell BUT for half the contract.

Boston needs more bigs after trading away Tristan Thompson and Moses Brown.

It could work.

[BlueSan]

The guy that needs to go is KP, then Powell, then see if Brunson can return any value.

we are of a simmilar mind

The entire RealGM board thinks Dallas did a poor job this off-season. So yeah that tells you enough

[Maverick41]

It's been reported that Boston may look to deal Kris Dunn again to clear the log jam they have at the guard spot. They were not expecting the Dennis Schroeder signing yet here we are.

Powell + 2nd for Dunn + Langford works. Here's why.

Dunn is expiring. Powell is signed on for 1 more year. Langford is signed on for 2 more years. They cancel out with the Mavs taking on someone who extends 1 year longer than Powell BUT for half the contract.

Boston needs more bigs after trading away Tristan Thompson and Moses Brown.

It could work.

I would do that trade more-so for Langford as a prospect that Dunn. Dunn has looked done ( ) the last few years with all the injuries. I like both Nesmith and Langford as prospects on this team if Boston wants any of our surplus of backup centers.

[DallasMFFL]

The guy that needs to go is KP, then Powell, then see if Brunson can return any value.

I will drive Powell to the airport. I’m so glad Carlisle is gone. I only wish he had taken Powell with him.


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