THE Aaron Gordon thread

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #241 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:53 pm

ImChillin01 wrote:Its pretty funny how most of the fanbase was crying and calling for Henny head for picking Gordon over Exum and now currently Gordon is the better player. I hope you Magic fans realize to trust in Henny for this year draft

THIS

Patrick1978 · Post #242 » by **Patrick1978** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:11 pm

Yes trust henny,he has a good nose for the draft

Optimus_Steel · Post #243 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:34 pm

This kid is 19 years old, he has many years of NBA basketball ahead of him, he is not even comfortable yet. When this kid matures man he is gonna be something really good. He has what many young players do not have: great instincts, smarts, and desire. Case in point, Harkless. Tremendous physical attributes but questionable will power and without a doubt poor instincts. Harkless still doesn't understand how to play basketball. AG has it, he gets it. He has a feel for the game you can't teach.

OrlDave · Post #244 » by **OrlDave** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:37 pm

magician4ever wrote:
fendilim wrote:
magician4ever wrote:Wingspan, man. 6'10. Far more important than one or two inches shy of being an ideal sized SF. He's shown he can defend people taller than him because of his defensive IQ and his knowledge to use what he has. I see where you're coming from tho.

Wingspan dont matter as much as standing reach though.

Very true! Forgot to mention that. Winslow and AG have both been measured to have a standing reach of 8'9

Cool avi btw, how'd you get it? Whenever I end up getting an avi, it'll hopefully look something like that

I'm not doubting you, but I don't understand how that could be possible. 6'9" guy with a 6'11" WS has the same standing reach as a 6'6" and a 6'10" WS. I mean where are those 4 inches coming from? Are his shoulders 4 inches higher than Aaron's?

Edit: I'm going to adjust some numbers here. First, Aaron was 6'7.75 with a 6'11.75" WS (so better on one, worse on the other). Justise's numbers were correct (all numbers coming from draft express). Second, the only standing reach I could find for JW was from the Nike Hoop Summit last year and it was 8'7".
http://www.nbadraft.net/2014-hoop-summit-rosters

seeingstars · Post #245 » by **seeingstars** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:51 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
Horcy wrote:Never liked these type of players and never will...
I would love to trade him ASAP

You don't like elite defenders?

With loads of potential that make great passes and electrifying dunks?

fendilim · Post #246 » by **fendilim** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:13 am

OrlDave wrote:
magician4ever wrote:
fendilim wrote:Wingspan dont matter as much as standing reach though.

Very true! Forgot to mention that. Winslow and AG have both been measured to have a standing reach of 8'9

Cool avi btw, how'd you get it? Whenever I end up getting an avi, it'll hopefully look something like that

I'm not doubting you, but I don't understand how that could be possible. 6'9" guy with a 6'11" WS has the same standing reach as a 6'6" and a 6'10" WS. I mean where are those 4 inches coming from? Are his shoulders 4 inches higher than Aaron's?

Edit: I'm going to adjust some numbers here. First, Aaron was 6'7.75 with a 6'11.75" WS (so better on one, worse on the other). Justise's numbers were correct (all numbers coming from draft express). Second, the only standing reach I could find for JW was from the Nike Hoop Summit last year and it was 8'7".
http://www.nbadraft.net/2014-hoop-summit-rosters

It is possible that Aaron has a longer leg/larger head.

OrlDave · Post #247 » by **OrlDave** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:19 am

fendilim wrote:
OrlDave wrote:
magician4ever wrote:Very true! Forgot to mention that. Winslow and AG have both been measured to have a standing reach of 8'9

Cool avi btw, how'd you get it? Whenever I end up getting an avi, it'll hopefully look something like that

I'm not doubting you, but I don't understand how that could be possible. 6'9" guy with a 6'11" WS has the same standing reach as a 6'6" and a 6'10" WS. I mean where are those 4 inches coming from? Are his shoulders 4 inches higher than Aaron's?

Edit: I'm going to adjust some numbers here. First, Aaron was 6'7.75 with a 6'11.75" WS (so better on one, worse on the other). Justise's numbers were correct (all numbers coming from draft express). Second, the only standing reach I could find for JW was from the Nike Hoop Summit last year and it was 8'7".
http://www.nbadraft.net/2014-hoop-summit-rosters
It is possible that Aaron has a longer leg/larger head.

Manute Bol I could see... but Aaron's head looks pretty normal to me

OrlandoDream · Post #248 » by **OrlandoDream** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:36 am

ImChillin01 wrote:Its pretty funny how most of the fanbase was crying and calling for Henny head for picking Gordon over Exum and now currently Gordon is the better player. I hope you Magic fans realize to trust in Henny for this year draft

I think gordon will be the better player long-term but is is waaaay too soon to judge exum and how he compares to AG. Neither one had a stellar rookie season.

seeingstars · Post #249 » by **seeingstars** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:39 am

This is true. Exum leaves Utah first chance he gets. I still believe this.

GANGSTERDOG · Post #250 » by **GANGSTERDOG** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:34 am

Look Gordon and Payton are going to be the Magic's best Duo of all time. (Over Penny/Shaq)

We just have to deal with it. Im pissed off too trust me.

Sure they will probably win a Championship or 2 but honestly
I would rather not root for a kid with a Goofy-Ass Haircut and a kid who chose to buy a Jaguar when he can afford to buy any car in the whole damn world.
Sure we all hate them for that but we are just going to hold our tongues and not say a word.

TreasureCoast · Post #251 » by **TreasureCoast** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:49 am

GANGSTERDOG wrote:Look Gordon and Payton are going to be the Magic's best Duo of all time. (Over Penny/Shaq)

We just have to deal with it. Im pissed off too trust me.

Sure they will probably win a Championship or 2 but honestly
I would rather not root for a kid with a Goofy-Ass Haircut and a kid who chose to buy a Jaguar when he can afford to buy any car in the whole damn world.
Sure we all hate them for that but we are just going to hold our tongues and not say a word.

Well if there was ever an appropriate reason to buy a Jag it is when you've got more money than sense. But an XJ? Ew, and matte black? No imagination. Hope he bought that extended warranty.

KillMonger · Post #252 » by **KillMonger** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:59 am

Give me an aston martin and i'm golden

Orlwillbeback · Post #253 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:49 pm

GANGSTERDOG wrote:Look Gordon and Payton are going to be the Magic's best Duo of all time. (Over Penny/Shaq)

We just have to deal with it. Im pissed off too trust me.

Sure they will probably win a Championship or 2 but honestly
I would rather not root for a kid with a Goofy-Ass Haircut and a kid who chose to buy a Jaguar when he can afford to buy any car in the whole damn world.
Sure we all hate them for that but we are just going to hold our tongues and not say a word.

MrOrlando · Post #254 » by **MrOrlando** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:39 am

So let me ask you guys this. It's a big summer in the decision of us keeping Tobias Harris or not. If he comes at an expensive price, do we let him go (or S&T) and let Gordon take the reigns?

How easy of a decision is that for some of you guys?

OrlandoNed · Post #255 » by **OrlandoNed** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:53 am

MrOrlando wrote:So let me ask you guys this. It's a big summer in the decision of us keeping Tobias Harris or not. If he comes at an expensive price, do we let him go (or S&T) and let Gordon take the reigns?

How easy of a decision is that for some of you guys?

The people that want Gordon to take a major starting role and want Harris gone better not expect any progress towards the playoffs anytime soon. Gordon is way too raw right now. Vuc and Oladipo can't carry a decent offense by themselves. A starting offense of Payton/Oladipo/Gordon/whoever we already have or draft/Vucevic will struggle to reach 80 every night.

seeingstars · Post #256 » by **seeingstars** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:55 am

MrOrlando wrote:So let me ask you guys this. It's a big summer in the decision of us keeping Tobias Harris or not. If he comes at an expensive price, do we let him go (or S&T) and let Gordon take the reigns?

How easy of a decision is that for some of you guys?

This signature! It should be legit!

I'm really a Gordon biased dude. Anything that benefits Gordon on this team I'm willing and for it

MrOrlando · Post #257 » by **MrOrlando** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:13 am

seeingstars wrote:
MrOrlando wrote:So let me ask you guys this. It's a big summer in the decision of us keeping Tobias Harris or not. If he comes at an expensive price, do we let him go (or S&T) and let Gordon take the reigns?

How easy of a decision is that for some of you guys?

This signature! It should be legit!

I'm really a Gordon biased dude. Anything that benefits Gordon on this team I'm willing and for it

Thanks man! I drew it up a long time ago, and had a friend digitize it for me. I think Magic Madness actually created the signature too!

It'd be really interesting to see him in the SL as our PF, I do feel we would struggle mightily to score though. It all depends on what kind of leaps he makes this off season. If we don't make the playoffs next year, it'd be a big disappointment to me. I want us in the post season, no more Top 5 draft picks!

MellowRose · Post #258 » by **MellowRose** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:15 am

OrlandoNed wrote:
MrOrlando wrote:So let me ask you guys this. It's a big summer in the decision of us keeping Tobias Harris or not. If he comes at an expensive price, do we let him go (or S&T) and let Gordon take the reigns?

How easy of a decision is that for some of you guys?

The people that want Gordon to take a major starting role and want Harris gone better not expect any progress towards the playoffs anytime soon. Gordon is way too raw right now. Vuc and Oladipo can't carry a decent offense by themselves. A starting offense of Payton/Oladipo/Gordon/whoever we already have or draft/Vucevic will struggle to reach 80 every night.

AG is better than Harris at EVERYTHING except for shooting the ball. Get sweet shooting SGs and PFs and you're set.

OrlandoNed · Post #259 » by **OrlandoNed** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:30 am

MellowRose wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:
MrOrlando wrote:So let me ask you guys this. It's a big summer in the decision of us keeping Tobias Harris or not. If he comes at an expensive price, do we let him go (or S&T) and let Gordon take the reigns?

How easy of a decision is that for some of you guys?

The people that want Gordon to take a major starting role and want Harris gone better not expect any progress towards the playoffs anytime soon. Gordon is way too raw right now. Vuc and Oladipo can't carry a decent offense by themselves. A starting offense of Payton/Oladipo/Gordon/whoever we already have or draft/Vucevic will struggle to reach 80 every night.

AG is better than Harris at EVERYTHING except for shooting the ball. Get sweet shooting SGs and PFs and you're set.

Harris is better. I'll take an above average scorer and average defender over an above average defender and abysmal scorer. Think of it this way, a B plus a C averages out higher than the average of a B plus an F.

Orlwillbeback · Post #260 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:37 am

Harris is a better scorer, post player, better handling in traffic, spot up shooter and hes thicker. Gordon has him on individual defense and thats about it.