Political Roundtable Part XXIII

[daoneandonly]

"at nausea" lmao

This personal responsibility bull is coming from someone who has no **** clue how much other people struggle. Your perspective is severely limited and all you can fathom is that your life was pretty easy so everyone else should just suck it up because you made it.

Forget debating about whether abortion is murder - you fundamentally do not understand how people on the margins actually live, or how anyone with fewer resources than you can't just 'man up' at the snap of a finger and raise a child.

It's not even on the margins. My family was solidly middle class, and my sister had a pregnancy scare in her senior year of high school. It ended up being just that, but she's told me that she had already made the decision mentally to have an abortion if she had been pregnant.

I've thought about that a lot over the years. Who knows how her life would have turned out if she'd had a baby at 17? Certainly a lot of people in that situation have gone on to achieve great things. And my family isn't wealthy, but we definitely could have helped her out, so she would have been better off than most. But I daresay how her life actually turned out -- married for almost 20 years, got her master's, is now an outstanding, hard-working elementary principal raising two wonderful little girls -- is a lot better for society at large than whatever she would have faced with a baby and no husband at 17.

Frankly, I think abortion and flag sh*t is just the conservative version of virtue signalling. George Carlin put it best -- conservatives pretend they care so much about innocent, precious little babies ... until those innocent, precious little babies are born, at which point they couldn't give two squirts of warm piss. Especially if those innocent, precious little babies are born in challenging circumstances, i.e. to lazy-ass minorities looking to sponge off the rest of us. At that point, conservatives not only couldn't give a flying F, but they will aggressively, actively look to dismantle any sort of safety net available.

Also, a friendly reminder: These are also the same people shrugging their shoulders over family separations on the border, and comparing detention centers to day care. So, yeah, conservative virtue signalling.

You should post more sir.

Yea everyone that agrees with you should post more in the already flooded 97.2% liberal Washington political board

[Pointgod]

It's not even on the margins. My family was solidly middle class, and my sister had a pregnancy scare in her senior year of high school. It ended up being just that, but she's told me that she had already made the decision mentally to have an abortion if she had been pregnant.

I've thought about that a lot over the years. Who knows how her life would have turned out if she'd had a baby at 17? Certainly a lot of people in that situation have gone on to achieve great things. And my family isn't wealthy, but we definitely could have helped her out, so she would have been better off than most. But I daresay how her life actually turned out -- married for almost 20 years, got her master's, is now an outstanding, hard-working elementary principal raising two wonderful little girls -- is a lot better for society at large than whatever she would have faced with a baby and no husband at 17.

Frankly, I think abortion and flag sh*t is just the conservative version of virtue signalling. George Carlin put it best -- conservatives pretend they care so much about innocent, precious little babies ... until those innocent, precious little babies are born, at which point they couldn't give two squirts of warm piss. Especially if those innocent, precious little babies are born in challenging circumstances, i.e. to lazy-ass minorities looking to sponge off the rest of us. At that point, conservatives not only couldn't give a flying F, but they will aggressively, actively look to dismantle any sort of safety net available.

Also, a friendly reminder: These are also the same people shrugging their shoulders over family separations on the border, and comparing detention centers to day care. So, yeah, conservative virtue signalling.

You should post more sir.

Yea everyone that agrees with you should post more in the already flooded 97.2% liberal Washington political board

Good morning to you too sunshine

[daoneandonly]

You should post more sir.

Yea everyone that agrees with you should post more in the already flooded 97.2% liberal Washington political board

Good morning to you too sunshine

Glad you took it in good stride, cause I meant it in good stride, good morning bud!!

I'm just a little bitter this morning the Mavs looked like horse dookie

[stilldropin20]

Yea everyone that agrees with you should post more in the already flooded 97.2% liberal Washington political board

Good morning to you too sunshine

Glad you took it in good stride, cause I meant it in good stride, good morning bud!!

I'm just a little bitter this morning the Mavs looked like horse dookie

doncic looks real good. REAL GOOD!! the entire team plays better when they run everything through him. Carlisle just needs to run everything through him...his threes will eventually drop. on the right team...and with the right teamates...and running the right system you guys got the best player in the draft. Atlanta didn't do that badly either in drafting Young and getting a pick back from Dallas which should be top 10. Ayton and bamba are over rated IMO. The game has changed. But Booker is one of my favorite young players so the suns will be a great team soon.

unfortunately, i saw reluctance Deandre and Smith to play through Doncic...looking him off to pass to DSJ. And deandre fumbled 2 passes for open layups and 3 wide open put backs. Jordan makes those and you still win despite DSJ shot jacking. And doncic missing all of his 3's.

Carlisle has his hands full keeping those 2 happy cuz both want the ball. and both need the ball to grow.

[TGW]

Trump selling out to Saudi terrorist state has to be the most treasonous act in American history. That man should be in handcuffs.

[dobrojim]

How'd that (Iraq) turn out?

Watch on YouTube

[dobrojim]

Trump selling out to Saudi terrorist state has to be the most treasonous act in American history. That man should be in handcuffs.

I'm not sure it's more treasonous than selling out to Russia, or N Korea.
But I'm willing to listen to discussion.

[JWizmentality]

Trump selling out to Saudi terrorist state has to be the most treasonous act in American history. That man should be in handcuffs.

Trump really isn't doing anything the past administrations haven't done. He's just doing it out in the open.

[gtn130]

Yeah they did bust their ass, because they were good human beings who owned up to their responsibilities, you know who else could do the same, any able bodied American, because if immigrants with nothing did, how can they not? Not to mention the very many couples out there who want to adopt a child because life did not grant them one of their own. But lets forget all that, just keep a woman's right to kill, and bears repeating, use government resources for free when she so desires.

See man this is why I can't take you seriously. You're just wallowing in your low information universe, blathering on about personal responsibility and 'good human beings' as if everyone on the margins is a bad and irresponsible person.

I'm glad your parents were able to figure things out, but you're projecting your personal experiences onto the rest of society in lieu of actually like reading about ****. Your personal experiences are anecdotal, and while they are relevant, they're very limited and shouldn't be what inform your policy views.

Disentangling your personal experiences from your policy views would go a long way for you, along with basically the entirety of the reactionary derposphere.

[gtn130]

How'd that (Iraq) turn out?

Watch on YouTube

This lady is a hero

[closg00]

You just can't keep up with the corruption

Watch on YouTube

[TGW]

Trump selling out to Saudi terrorist state has to be the most treasonous act in American history. That man should be in handcuffs.

Trump really isn't doing anything the past administrations haven't done. He's just doing it out in the open.

True...Chomsky basically said that every President since Nixon should be in prison for violating the Geneva convention.

[stilldropin20]

Yeah they did bust their ass, because they were good human beings who owned up to their responsibilities, you know who else could do the same, any able bodied American, because if immigrants with nothing did, how can they not? Not to mention the very many couples out there who want to adopt a child because life did not grant them one of their own. But lets forget all that, just keep a woman's right to kill, and bears repeating, use government resources for free when she so desires.

See man this is why I can't take you seriously. You're just wallowing in your low information universe, blathering on about personal responsibility and 'good human beings' as if everyone on the margins is a bad and irresponsible person.

I'm glad your parents were able to figure things out, but you're projecting your personal experiences onto the rest of society in lieu of actually like reading about ****. Your personal experiences are anecdotal, and while they are relevant, they're very limited and shouldn't be what inform your policy views.

Disentangling your personal experiences from your policy views would go a long way for you, along with basically the entirety of the reactionary derposphere.

Yeah see, there comes a point when his experiences sound a lot like my experiences and a lot like induvecas experiences and before you know it, it’s not really anecdotal anymore.



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[Pointgod]

this is bull crap. liberal need to stop supporting open borders.

if you care about poor people, stop saturating our un skilled labor market with immigrants both legal and illegal. Only big business benefits from the over saturation of labor. That's why they lobby for open borders. to get the cheap labor.

If there is one thing You guys should learn is this. Open borders dont work for the poor and working poor at all. and it hurts the middle class as well.

not sure what it going on here?

Read on Twitter

Par the course you fell for a flat out lie from the rapist in chief and idiotic right wingers. Do ever stop and think that maybe you’re being taken advantage of by people who depend on guillable idiots? If your party can only resort to lies to make their arguments then how good is their argument in the first place?

https://splinternews.com/journalist-debunks-matt-gaetz-and-trumps-viral-racist-1829854444

Journalist Debunks Matt Gaetz and Trump's Viral Paid Migrant Theory

[closg00]

Propaganda, they lie brazenly and deliberately

[Pointgod]

Trump selling out to Saudi terrorist state has to be the most treasonous act in American history. That man should be in handcuffs.

Trump really isn't doing anything the past administrations haven't done. He's just doing it out in the open.

You’re not wrong. This is one of the rare times that I’ll give Trump some leeway, every President has been weak against Saudi Arabia going past decades and to a certain extent I understand why. However Trump is going waaaayyyy to far capitulating and looking weak against Mohamed Bin Salman. He’s pretty much parroting Saudi talking points and giving that **** cover. The truth is Trump is a weakling and weak leader. That’s why he admires autoritarians like Putin, the Saudis etc. He can’t stand up to them and he looks at Dictators as something he aspires to.

[gtn130]

this is bull crap. liberal need to stop supporting open borders.

if you care about poor people, stop saturating our un skilled labor market with immigrants both legal and illegal. Only big business benefits from the over saturation of labor. That's why they lobby for open borders. to get the cheap labor.

If there is one thing You guys should learn is this. Open borders dont work for the poor and working poor at all. and it hurts the middle class as well.

not sure what it going on here?

Read on Twitter

Par the course you fell for a flat out lie from the rapist in chief and idiotic right wingers. Do ever stop and think that maybe you’re being taken advantage of by people who depend on guillable idiots? If your party can only resort to lies to make their arguments then how good is their argument in the first place?

https://splinternews.com/journalist-debunks-matt-gaetz-and-trumps-viral-racist-1829854444

Journalist Debunks Matt Gaetz and Trump's Viral Paid Migrant Theory

This is a big reason why I pretty much ignore SD20. He is caught 100% incontrovertibly spewing made-up garbage and he will absolutely never acknowledge it or even circle back to the conversation.

1. Rant/lie about fake made-up nonsense
2. Get called out for it
3. Move on to something else
4. Repeat

Same thing over and over

[daoneandonly]

Yeah they did bust their ass, because they were good human beings who owned up to their responsibilities, you know who else could do the same, any able bodied American, because if immigrants with nothing did, how can they not? Not to mention the very many couples out there who want to adopt a child because life did not grant them one of their own. But lets forget all that, just keep a woman's right to kill, and bears repeating, use government resources for free when she so desires.

See man this is why I can't take you seriously. You're just wallowing in your low information universe, blathering on about personal responsibility and 'good human beings' as if everyone on the margins is a bad and irresponsible person.

I'm glad your parents were able to figure things out, but you're projecting your personal experiences onto the rest of society in lieu of actually like reading about ****. Your personal experiences are anecdotal, and while they are relevant, they're very limited and shouldn't be what inform your policy views.

Disentangling your personal experiences from your policy views would go a long way for you, along with basically the entirety of the reactionary derposphere.

Yeah see, there comes a point when his experiences sound a lot like my experiences and a lot like induvecas experiences and before you know it, it’s not really anecdotal anymore.



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Thank You!

Yeah it's as if we're some outliers that no one in the world can relate to, what a bunch of rubbish

The pro choice side will say or do anything to deflect and make their advocating for baby killing seem less vile and inhumane than it really is, you can't just pull the wool over everyone's eyes gtn. Some of us see abortion for what it is, particularly in the case of just an accidental pregnancy, its a selfish move, you can talk all these margins, suffering, situations all you want, murder is murder. if someone mugged someone else because they had no money to eat or support their family, it's still a crime, and they'd have to atone for it by way of a trial, potential conviction and jail time. Their actions led to their predicament, just like those who have an abortion for no other reason than whoops. And PS, my heart is breaking that a pro choicer does not take me seriously, I mean you dont have an ounce of empathy for a precious little baby, do you really think i care if you have zero respect for me?

[daoneandonly]

this is bull crap. liberal need to stop supporting open borders.

if you care about poor people, stop saturating our un skilled labor market with immigrants both legal and illegal. Only big business benefits from the over saturation of labor. That's why they lobby for open borders. to get the cheap labor.

If there is one thing You guys should learn is this. Open borders dont work for the poor and working poor at all. and it hurts the middle class as well.

not sure what it going on here?

Read on Twitter

Par the course you fell for a flat out lie from the rapist in chief and idiotic right wingers. Do ever stop and think that maybe you’re being taken advantage of by people who depend on guillable idiots? If your party can only resort to lies to make their arguments then how good is their argument in the first place?

https://splinternews.com/journalist-debunks-matt-gaetz-and-trumps-viral-racist-1829854444

Journalist Debunks Matt Gaetz and Trump's Viral Paid Migrant Theory

Are you the be all end all fortune teller? How do you do it? I mean you apparently know who's a rapist without any type of conviction or evidence, and now you know fictitious stories just by glancing through the web, what's your secret? Are all liberals this smart and intuitive?

[montestewart]

Yeah they did bust their ass, because they were good human beings who owned up to their responsibilities, you know who else could do the same, any able bodied American, because if immigrants with nothing did, how can they not? Not to mention the very many couples out there who want to adopt a child because life did not grant them one of their own. But lets forget all that, just keep a woman's right to kill, and bears repeating, use government resources for free when she so desires.

See man this is why I can't take you seriously. You're just wallowing in your low information universe, blathering on about personal responsibility and 'good human beings' as if everyone on the margins is a bad and irresponsible person.

I'm glad your parents were able to figure things out, but you're projecting your personal experiences onto the rest of society in lieu of actually like reading about ****. Your personal experiences are anecdotal, and while they are relevant, they're very limited and shouldn't be what inform your policy views.

Disentangling your personal experiences from your policy views would go a long way for you, along with basically the entirety of the reactionary derposphere.

Yeah see, there comes a point when his experiences sound a lot like my experiences and a lot like induvecas experiences and before you know it, it’s not really anecdotal anymore.



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Based on unverified claims, your net worth is in the top 1-2%, Induveca's is higher (He's the Putin to your Trump) so yeah, typical stories illustrative of everystrawman, more hard science than fairy tale.

To gtn's point, it's so easy to smack down, hard, time and time again, anything that std says. You can use facts, you can use jokes, and you never have to try that hard. But he's like that guy at the bar you think must be drunk the way he goes up to bigger, stronger, faster guys and starts picking fights, but then the way he keeps picking himself up off the floor, bloodied but otherwise unfazed, you realize the police don't even yet have a name for the powerful hallucinogen that he's on that allows him to continually and blithely plunge headfirst into Stone Cold's next punch. You want to intervene, but instead you mostly just sit back and watch the dramedy.