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***2020 Draft Lottery Thread*** Wolves get the top pick!

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Post#241 » by MN7725 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:25 pm

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jpatrick wrote:Edwards handle is much like Wiggins at Kansas. For the collegiate level, they have so much athletic ability they can get past defenders without craft. At the pro level that won’t work. An for Edwards, even at the collegiate level, you see him take a ton of pull up jumpers (thus the poor shooting percentages) because he simply doesn’t have craft to attack the rim.

I’m watching the second half of the UGA/MSU game where Edwards went for 33 in the half. Even here, he’s not attacking. He’s pulling up for very difficult shots. In this half they go in so it looks great. But for the season, those shots didn’t go in often (29% from three).

Im not saying he can’t improve and become a star. I’m actually not concerned about his skill level. I just don’t know how often players that show such low motor develop that at the NBA level.


I don’t agree with this. Wiggins was all downhill in his drives, but Edwards has the ability to change direction and dribble in traffic. Now, he can tighten it up a bit more, but he’s a much better ball handler than Wiggins was at this stage. I see people constantly trying to compare the two and they are vastly different. Edwards is not afraid of contact for one, and he’s already a better passer.


posted a bit back that Jaylen Brown at Cal is better comp than Wig at Kansas in terms of Edwards play style, team situation

but I'm not confident Wolves have organization, team leaders, coach for the buy-in needed to break the bad habits for Edwards like Boston did with Brown
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Post#242 » by Howard Cosell » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:36 pm

I got to think Edwards will get a long look from Rosas and Saunders during workout, interview and watching tape. Edwards has a chance to move to #1 on the board. He has much better handles than Wiggins but is he serious about rounding out his game with effort on Defense? Edwards will become a decent shooter at least during his NBA career. The stats at UGA is a little bit misleading. Take out the 35 footers and Edwards numbers are decent..lol.

Wiseman has the highest floor of the whole draft. He also runs the court in the manner which gives him the ability to stay healthy. Doesn’t lumber up and down court with heavy legs. Wiseman is the chalk for #1.


Trading down with Charlotte and drafting Deni Avdija for the Twolves is tantalizing. I just can’t figure out a decent trade scenario for both teams yet to make this happen.
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Post#243 » by pumunga » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:54 pm

Mattya wrote:I think this draft because of the time off and not having a clear top player has led to players becoming over scrutinized. All three are clearly talented and have loads of potential. They just aren’t Zion, Luka, Simmons can’t miss guys. Even a guy like Cole Anthony outside the top 10 would be crazy to me.

Musta been why Luka went 3rd overall.
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Post#244 » by Calinks » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:58 pm

One thing we need to keep in mind. A LOT can change between now and the season. Coaches fired, front offices fired. With the scouting and workouts, a start could emerge. With teams flopping in the playoffs star players could be up for trades or want out. Teams could look to rebuild. The important thing is we got a lot of ammunition now to take advantage of a scenario.
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Post#245 » by Mattya » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:14 am

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Mattya wrote:I think this draft because of the time off and not having a clear top player has led to players becoming over scrutinized. All three are clearly talented and have loads of potential. They just aren’t Zion, Luka, Simmons can’t miss guys. Even a guy like Cole Anthony outside the top 10 would be crazy to me.

Musta been why Luka went 3rd overall.


Right because dumb teams don’t ever f things up. If you couldn’t see he was a can’t miss player you are blind or dumb just like the Suns and Kings.
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Post#246 » by Neeva » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:27 am

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pumunga wrote:
Mattya wrote:I think this draft because of the time off and not having a clear top player has led to players becoming over scrutinized. All three are clearly talented and have loads of potential. They just aren’t Zion, Luka, Simmons can’t miss guys. Even a guy like Cole Anthony outside the top 10 would be crazy to me.

Musta been why Luka went 3rd overall.


Right because dumb teams don’t ever f things up. If you couldn’t see he was a can’t miss player you are blind or dumb just like the Suns and Kings.


Yep those dumb gms that are now fired because of it. Anyone with a brain would have taken Luka. Wolves
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Post#247 » by Dewey » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:30 am

I agree the hype would prove an entire different tone had things been normal (NCAA tournament, full NBA season, Euro League, etc...). There are always a few players who rise to the top and the media gets stupid as usual predicting their greatness.

Oh well ... all I ask is we don’t try to fix someone’s (First round pick) shot or assume it will develop ... Rubio, Okogie, Culver, etc. Just focus on the best basketball players ... shooters, passers, dribblers, defenders
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Post#248 » by KGdaBom » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:56 am

Dewey wrote:I agree the hype would prove an entire different tone had things been normal (NCAA tournament, full NBA season, Euro League, etc...). There are always a few players who rise to the top and the media gets stupid as usual predicting their greatness.

Oh well ... all I ask is we don’t try to fix someone’s (First round pick) shot or assume it will develop ... Rubio, Okogie, Culver, etc. Just focus on the best basketball players ... shooters, passers, dribblers, defenders

Preach it. Don't draft a guy at #1 overall to fix him. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Post#249 » by Worm Guts » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:03 am

The difference between Edwards and Rubio, Culver and Okogie is that Edwards shot isn’t broken, his shot selection is overly aggressive.
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Post#250 » by KGdaBom » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:16 am

Worm Guts wrote:The difference between Edwards and Rubio, Culver and Okogie is that Edwards shot isn’t broken, his shot selection is overly aggressive.

All that matters is does his shot go in or not. I don't see him being an efficient scorer in the NBA. I don't see him being anywhere near adequate as a defender. We'd be using the #1 overall pick on a guy who will be a net negative for our team. We will be worse with him on the court than with him off it.
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Post#251 » by KGdaBom » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:18 am

If you trust YouTube Mocks Edwards is already a Wolf.
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Post#252 » by southern wolf » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:37 am

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southern wolf wrote:
The greedy part of me is a little disappointed we didn't get the number one pick in a loaded draft with a clear number one,


Maybe next year :tooth


That would be nice. Keep the pick out of the Warriors hands.
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Post#253 » by Macwolf527 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:39 am

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Dewey wrote:I agree the hype would prove an entire different tone had things been normal (NCAA tournament, full NBA season, Euro League, etc...). There are always a few players who rise to the top and the media gets stupid as usual predicting their greatness.

Oh well ... all I ask is we don’t try to fix someone’s (First round pick) shot or assume it will develop ... Rubio, Okogie, Culver, etc. Just focus on the best basketball players ... shooters, passers, dribblers, defenders

Preach it. Don't draft a guy at #1 overall to fix him. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


That’s just part of development. I’ve looked at a ton of tape on Edwards, critically. His issue is not his form, but his footwork. The product of forcing up shots. He needs to learn how to be an efficient scorer, picking the right spots at every level and taking good shots. That’s not fixing a player, that’s developing him.
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Post#254 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:44 am

KAT follows Wiseman on Instagram! Boom! TT

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Post#255 » by KGdaBom » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:46 am

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KGdaBom wrote:
Dewey wrote:I agree the hype would prove an entire different tone had things been normal (NCAA tournament, full NBA season, Euro League, etc...). There are always a few players who rise to the top and the media gets stupid as usual predicting their greatness.

Oh well ... all I ask is we don’t try to fix someone’s (First round pick) shot or assume it will develop ... Rubio, Okogie, Culver, etc. Just focus on the best basketball players ... shooters, passers, dribblers, defenders

Preach it. Don't draft a guy at #1 overall to fix him. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


That’s just part of development. I’ve looked at a ton of tape on Edwards, critically. His issue is not his form, but his footwork. The product of forcing up shots. He needs to learn how to be an efficient scorer, picking the right spots at every level and taking good shots. That’s not fixing a player, that’s developing him.

When he's starting at 40/29 that's beyond developing. That's fixing. He has learned how to miss shots in great volume. It will be very difficult for him to unlearn that. He has muscle memory of how to miss shots. Then after fixing that we need to get him to play defense which he has never done. I'm hating this idea and I won't be surprised at all if we pick him.
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Post#256 » by KGdaBom » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:46 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:KAT follows Wiseman on Instagram! Boom! TT

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I love it. GM KAT will pick Wiseman just like he traded for DLo.
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Post#257 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:50 am

The more I watch Wiseman, the more I like.
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I love it. GM KAT will pick Wiseman just like he traded for DLo.


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Post#258 » by southern wolf » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:52 am

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Worm Guts wrote:The difference between Edwards and Rubio, Culver and Okogie is that Edwards shot isn’t broken, his shot selection is overly aggressive.

All that matters is does his shot go in or not. I don't see him being an efficient scorer in the NBA. I don't see him being anywhere near adequate as a defender. We'd be using the #1 overall pick on a guy who will be a net negative for our team. We will be worse with him on the court than with him off it.


We passed on guys like Jamal Murray and Buddy Hield for Kris Dunn because of his defense and that didn't work out too well for us. I think you can still get solid defenders at 17 or by trade to build around Edwards if we pick that way. With his build and athleticism, I think Edwards is going to be efficient enough scoring at NBA level and at least have defensive potential.
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Post#259 » by Jedzz » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:05 am

Worm Guts wrote:The difference between Edwards and Rubio, Culver and Okogie is that Edwards shot isn’t broken, his shot selection is overly aggressive.


Well you can't fix stupid either they say. Don't want to call him stupid but if that's a possibiliy than Wolves aren't going to stop him from being himself either.

if he can't hit 35 footers then we at least know he's not a Curry. That brings down the imagination and fun a little. Not a great NBA shooter, check.

Will need everything to be perfect including space to shoot, check.
Sounds like a typical Timberwolves shooter of the past, check.
Concern still exists over taking him #1 for these things. Check.

I would say I would rather have an aggressive player than a listless one. Of course he's been described at showing both? It would be the first time they ever drafted a player that already looked developed on body size. But if he ends up a 25% shooter you would have to just end the franchise it would be so terrible.
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