2022 NBA Draft

[The-Power]

I haven't seen that much of most of these guys yet but count me as one of Holmgren's skeptics. His body-type scares me and I'm not sure what I can count on him doing excellently at the next level.

[gorz]

I have Adrian Griffin Jr as my 2022 1st pick in draft. He's a dark horse pick but his talent is going under the radar.

Jaden Hardy reminds me of malik newman. Both were great scorers in high school but that lack of burst/atlhleticsm really exposed them at higher level. In that 6'4/6'5 build but his athleticism is below guys like most recent James Bouknight.

Super Early top 10

1. AJ Griffin
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jalen Duren
4. Paolo Banchero
5. Patrick Baldwin Jr.
6. Nikola Jovic
7. Caleb Houstan
8. Peyton Watson
9. Jabari Smith
10. Jaden Ivey

what gives Duren the nod over Banch for you?

Banchero is no question the more skilled player and could very well end up the better player down the road despite lower talent and ceiling. Personally I see him as a talented glue guy ala al horford than a superstar or even all star caliber talent.
Duren is a complete hit or miss prospect but I do see him projecting better than banchero long term. As it currently stands his offense is really raw but given his already mature frame at such a young age physical tools defensive prowess I think he will leave a favorable impression on gms and scouts to gamble really high on him. I also think playing alongside bates will pay dividends for him as he will not have that burden of carrying offensive load had he gone as lone highly touted 5 star recruit.

[LofJ]

Is Emoni Bates not in this draft class?

Edit: Read that he just misses the age cutoff by a few days, that's nonsense. The age requirement needs to go, the NBA should stop dragging its feet.

[CptCrunch]

AJ Griffin has a very very solid case for being top 3 this class.

In case some don't know, he is the son of Raptors lead assistant Adrian Griffin.

Here is a piece by former the Stepien writer Ross Homan who has since been hired as a Rockets scout: https://www.thestepien.com/2019/10/08/adrian-griffin-jr-deserves-1-pick-consideration/

(The Stepien is generally mixed bag of quality, from trash to solid tier analysts who get hired by NBA teams)

[Sea2003]

I haven't seen that much of most of these guys yet but count me as one of Holmgren's skeptics. His body-type scares me and I'm not sure what I can count on him doing excellently at the next level.

Lack of fluidity is concerning imo. Don't know what a high end outcome looks like on offense for him.

[SNPA]

this is how id have it more or less at this point, taking a flier on Tchicamboud this early but I love what I saw so far

Chet Holmgren
Paolo Banchero

Jabari Smith
Kendall Brown
Nikola Jovic

Patrick Baldwin Jr.
Ousmane Dieng
Yannick Nzosa
Caleb Houstan
Jayson Tchicamboud

Hardy, Ivey, Griffin, Mathurin, Montero guys that could pushing in that tier3 at some point

Why Chet over Paolo? I’ve seen a little of both (next to none of the others) but I’d be taking Paolo easily. That kid has star tattooed on him IMO.

[babyjax13]

I haven't seen that much of most of these guys yet but count me as one of Holmgren's skeptics. His body-type scares me and I'm not sure what I can count on him doing excellently at the next level.

I could see him dropping, too. A lot is going to ride on his physical development during the offseason (before joining Gonzaga).

[clyde21]

there is no way Chet is dropping past like 2

[clyde21]

this is how id have it more or less at this point, taking a flier on Tchicamboud this early but I love what I saw so far

Chet Holmgren
Paolo Banchero

Jabari Smith
Kendall Brown
Nikola Jovic

Patrick Baldwin Jr.
Ousmane Dieng
Yannick Nzosa
Caleb Houstan
Jayson Tchicamboud

Hardy, Ivey, Griffin, Mathurin, Montero guys that could pushing in that tier3 at some point

Why Chet over Paolo? I’ve seen a little of both (next to none of the others) but I’d be taking Paolo easily. That kid has star tattooed on him IMO.

i need to get a better read on Paolo size, it's gonna make a big difference for me if I think he can legitimately play small ball 5 in the NBA or not, or if he's strictly a 4.

that said, they are in the same tier and pretty damn close, so don't think it really matters who's "first" right now.

[K_chile22]

Haven't started digging too deep, but can someone tell me what makes Mobley such a better prospect than Chet? I think they are pretty close. Chet is less switchy but better weak side rim protection, think they both process the game really well, Mobley is probably better passing from set spots like high post or off doubles, but think Chet has more live dribble passing to his game. Think chets shot creation and shooting is much further along then where Mobley was at. Mobley more athletic.

If you just don't trust Chets frame then yeah fair enough, but not like Mobley doesn't have a ways to go there himself

[clyde21]

Haven't started digging too deep, but can someone tell me what makes Mobley such a better prospect than Chet? I think they are pretty close. Chet is less switchy but better weak side rim protection, think they both process the game really well, Mobley is probably better passing from set spots like high post or off doubles, but think Chet has more live dribble passing to his game. Think chets shot creation and shooting is much further along then where Mobley was at. Mobley more athletic.

If you just don't trust Chets frame then yeah fair enough, but not like Mobley doesn't have a ways to go there himself

that's kinda a strawman...who's saying Mobley is "such a better prospect" than Chet? Chet is slated to go top 2 at worst at this point, and is a great prospect in his own right.

also the frame talk on Mobley is completely exaggerated but that's a diff discussion.

[K_chile22]

Haven't started digging too deep, but can someone tell me what makes Mobley such a better prospect than Chet? I think they are pretty close. Chet is less switchy but better weak side rim protection, think they both process the game really well, Mobley is probably better passing from set spots like high post or off doubles, but think Chet has more live dribble passing to his game. Think chets shot creation and shooting is much further along then where Mobley was at. Mobley more athletic.

If you just don't trust Chets frame then yeah fair enough, but not like Mobley doesn't have a ways to go there himself

that's kinda a strawman...who's saying Mobley is "such a better prospect" than Chet? Chet is slated to go top 2 at worst at this point, and is a great prospect in his own right.

also the frame talk on Mobley is completely exaggerated but that's a diff discussion.

I was under the impression that the consensus was that the top guys from this draft were seen as a step below the guys from 2021, obviously there's no cade, but I think Chet is right there with the other top 2021 guys

[dukeknicksirish]

Paolo is Top 2 and he's not 2...

He is now listed at 6'10" 250 at Duke . The kid will play the 4 next to Mark Williams at the 5 and AJ Griffin will play the 3. I'm not sure how teams will be able to score inside the paint with a SF at 6'8, a PF at 6'10 and a C at 7'1 at the college level. Very excited for the BLue Devils next year

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[dukeknicksirish]

I have Adrian Griffin Jr as my 2022 1st pick in draft. He's a dark horse pick but his talent is going under the radar.

Jaden Hardy reminds me of malik newman. Both were great scorers in high school but that lack of burst/atlhleticsm really exposed them at higher level. In that 6'4/6'5 build but his athleticism is below guys like most recent James Bouknight.

Super Early top 10

1. AJ Griffin
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jalen Duren
4. Paolo Banchero
5. Patrick Baldwin Jr.
6. Nikola Jovic
7. Caleb Houstan
8. Peyton Watson
9. Jabari Smith
10. Jaden Ivey

what gives Duren the nod over Banch for you?

Banchero is no question the more skilled player and could very well end up the better player down the road despite lower talent and ceiling. Personally I see him as a talented glue guy ala al horford than a superstar or even all star caliber talent.
Duren is a complete hit or miss prospect but I do see him projecting better than banchero long term. As it currently stands his offense is really raw but given his already mature frame at such a young age physical tools defensive prowess I think he will leave a favorable impression on gms and scouts to gamble really high on him. I also think playing alongside bates will pay dividends for him as he will not have that burden of carrying offensive load had he gone as lone highly touted 5 star recruit.

As a Duke fan, i love your optimism of Griffin, but he is the rawest of prospects with the tools to become elite. I would have him around 4-5. Duren has little to no offensive game outside of 5 feet so i am excited to see him go up against some kids his size at the college level. Paolo is easily 1 or 2 in this draft. If you believe his ceiling is Al Horford.... I don't even know what to say after seeing that lol thats Skip Bayless talk

[Sea2003]

Haven't started digging too deep, but can someone tell me what makes Mobley such a better prospect than Chet? I think they are pretty close. Chet is less switchy but better weak side rim protection, think they both process the game really well, Mobley is probably better passing from set spots like high post or off doubles, but think Chet has more live dribble passing to his game. Think chets shot creation and shooting is much further along then where Mobley was at. Mobley more athletic.

If you just don't trust Chets frame then yeah fair enough, but not like Mobley doesn't have a ways to go there himself

I think Mobley's better in all aspects of defense. What makes Mobley so good is his discipline and timing. His foul rate was very low for someone who contested/blocked so many shots. Need to see how good Chet is in that aspect. His offense is weird when you consider all the weight he has to gain and how that'll affect his shot. I think there's a solid gap between the 2

[clyde21]

Haven't started digging too deep, but can someone tell me what makes Mobley such a better prospect than Chet? I think they are pretty close. Chet is less switchy but better weak side rim protection, think they both process the game really well, Mobley is probably better passing from set spots like high post or off doubles, but think Chet has more live dribble passing to his game. Think chets shot creation and shooting is much further along then where Mobley was at. Mobley more athletic.

If you just don't trust Chets frame then yeah fair enough, but not like Mobley doesn't have a ways to go there himself

that's kinda a strawman...who's saying Mobley is "such a better prospect" than Chet? Chet is slated to go top 2 at worst at this point, and is a great prospect in his own right.

also the frame talk on Mobley is completely exaggerated but that's a diff discussion.

I was under the impression that the consensus was that the top guys from this draft were seen as a step below the guys from 2021, obviously there's no cade, but I think Chet is right there with the other top 2021 guys

i personally would not have Paolo/Chet on same tier as Mobley/Cade at this point (we'll see after this season, could def change) but that's far from the consensus on this board, and it's certainly not a situation of 'much better' either.

[3toheadmelo]

Marjon Beauchamp is an intriguing talent

[gorz]

what gives Duren the nod over Banch for you?

Banchero is no question the more skilled player and could very well end up the better player down the road despite lower talent and ceiling. Personally I see him as a talented glue guy ala al horford than a superstar or even all star caliber talent.
Duren is a complete hit or miss prospect but I do see him projecting better than banchero long term. As it currently stands his offense is really raw but given his already mature frame at such a young age physical tools defensive prowess I think he will leave a favorable impression on gms and scouts to gamble really high on him. I also think playing alongside bates will pay dividends for him as he will not have that burden of carrying offensive load had he gone as lone highly touted 5 star recruit.

As a Duke fan, i love your optimism of Griffin, but he is the rawest of prospects with the tools to become elite. I would have him around 4-5. Duren has little to no offensive game outside of 5 feet so i am excited to see him go up against some kids his size at the college level. Paolo is easily 1 or 2 in this draft. If you believe his ceiling is Al Horford.... I don't even know what to say after seeing that lol thats Skip Bayless talk

Fair points on Griffin and Duren. I could definitely see duren stock dropping after playing in college. However have to disagree on Paolo. I think he can be very good nba player but I don't see him as a perennial allstar like some are imagining..al horford still managed to make quite a few allstar games despite not gaudy stats. Also at one point James mcadoo as an incoming freshman at unc was projected future #1 pick

[clyde21]

for Paolo his ceiling will depend on whether he's capable of playing small ball 5 in the NBA, because if he can't he's strictly a 4 like a Julius Randle and while that's obv a stud the lack of versatility will limit his ceiling a bit.

[retrobro90]

I don't mean to disparage the kid because he seems like a good guy and very talented but I wish Banchero had a little more burst for his archetype. If he's billed as a monster grab n go threat and full court initiator I'd like to see better end to end speed and vertical pop. I haven't seen much written about his defense but the Randle comparison kind of scares me a bit. What kind of player does that make him at the next level if he's not great defensively and not a Barkley-esque power dribbler? First year in Detroit Blake Griffin maybe? Still need to watch more of him in a fixed traditional camera angle.