Ghetto Gospel wrote:moocow007 wrote:Ghetto Gospel wrote:
I don't necessarily disagree because those guys don't really move the needle. The short-term guys we picked up last year (Rose, Burks and Bullock) played their way into probably getting a nice new deal either with us or another team.
Is the play really just to sign scraps to 1 year deals until a superstar says they want to play in NY?
But we've tried this already. No superstar of any worth is going to want to play in NY if the Knicks don't have serious talent in place. The only superstars that have wanted to come to the Knicks low talent teams in the past 20+ years are guys from NY who come in with "fire and desire" and, because they can't perform miracles, get run out of town. That works great theoretically but not really realistically or the Knicks wouldn't still be in the situation they are in.
So we clearly found the problem. No superstar wants to come play for the Knicks if we don't have serious talent already in place.
The question then is how do we get this serious talent in place so that the superstars will want to come to the Knicks? I personally don't think we even have anyone on this roster that is capable of being a serious talent (apologies to RJ). Realistically, the only way is to tank and pray, but we'll never do it and most people don't want us to tank because no one wants to watch an unwatchable basketball team for 4-5 years
You just perfectly described the wonder and enjoyment of being a Knicks fan. We're boxed in, and have no way to get out. No one wants to come here without us being talented, but we can't find players to up the talent level significantly. We won't tank which would present us with the obvious path to add a lot of talent.
So where does that leave us? Start blowing 20M per year on the Oubres/Lonzos/Holmes, etc? Where will that ultimately get us? Is that enough talent to get us up to that respectable level?
OR
Do we go after guys like Wall/Kemba/Westbrook, etc? Where does that get us?
The only way we could have infused a lot of talent was the draft, and we blew lottery picks on Frank and Knox, when we could have drafted other future all-stars that were drafted behind us. So we suck at drafting too.
I don't have a f*cking clue on what the right move is at this point. We are so far behind in terms of talent compared to most teams (including Minnesota, for example). So how do we dig out of this hole?
People can all dream about a Dame/Kawhi/Lavine/Beal, etc. But how realistic is that? I don't even want Beal, but maybe we could get him if we gave away almost all of our assets. We're not getting Dame or Kawhi, and I highly doubt we'll get Lavine.
The only correct move would have been to build through the draft, but that's gone now too. We'll get to watch teams get potential franchise players 1-5 in this coming draft, but the FO thought it was a better idea to trade for 32 year DRose so we could go on a playoff 'run'.
I'm back to being a pissed off Knicks fan, when I start to try to realistically think about what's next for our team. It's depressing.