2022 NBA Draft Thread

[retrobro90]

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I really don't want Sochan. There's a stratosphere of difference between him and Scottie Barnes (who he's often compared to). Very overrated feel for the game. Has great passing touch but it bails him out often when he dribbles into trouble. The J is a complete mess. He doesn't have half of the imposing physicality that Barnes brings to the table. Not a great IQ guy like Barnes either. I would be very very disappointed in this pick. Probably the last (realistic) guy I would want at 12 and it still wouldn't surprise me. I remember telling Schlect that T-Ferg was from Tulsa before the 2017 draft and sure enough we get the "hometown" kid. Sochan is from Guymon OK for those that don't know.

[retrobro90]

Just to consolidate a few "realistic" prospects at or around 12 (or in the trade up vicinity) (ftr I'm leaving out Ivey as he seems like a lock to go #4):

Guys I want:

Johnny Davis (please please please please, dream scenario for me)
Benedict Mathurin
AJ Griffin
Keegan Murray (maybe he slips?)
Shaedon Sharpe (maybe? who knows.)
Dyson Daniels
EJ Lidell (probably considered a reach for some or not realistic but I think he's a stud)
Jaden Hardy (probably a reach but a worthy dice roll imo)

Guys I'm neutrally whelmed by:

Malaki Branham
Jalen Duren
Mark Williams

Guys I'd be upset with:

Jeremy Sochan
Ousmane Dieng
Ochai Agbaji

[Dadouv47]

Don't know what to think about Sochan. I don't want a Roberson 2.0 but I love what I saw from him. A Chet/Sochan duo would be insane on defense but don't want to gamble on a guy that may never be able to shoot. Gotta trust our FO if they think he can develop a decent shot.

[ThunderBolt]

I wouldn’t be upset with Sochan but I wouldn’t be excited. I want to like AJ Griffen but I need a reason to believe he gets back to what he was preinjury. Agbaji would be fine if we were closer to competing.

[Dadouv47]

Just to consolidate a few "realistic" prospects at or around 12 (or in the trade up vicinity) (ftr I'm leaving out Ivey as he seems like a lock to go #4):

Guys I want:

Johnny Davis (please please please please, dream scenario for me)
Benedict Mathurin
AJ Griffin
Keegan Murray (maybe he slips?)
Shaedon Sharpe (maybe? who knows.)
Dyson Daniels
EJ Lidell (probably considered a reach for some or not realistic but I think he's a stud)
Jaden Hardy (probably a reach but a worthy dice roll imo)

Guys I'm neutrally whelmed by:

Malaki Branham
Jalen Duren
Mark Williams

Guys I'd be upset with:

Jeremy Sochan
Ousmane Dieng
Ochai Agbaji

I like Duren a lot but I would rather avoid drafting a big with 12 (except for a big that is very good from 3). I think we can find good Centers in the NBA for a couple of FRPs so I wouldn't focus on trying to draft bigs besides exceptional talents like Mobley/Victor and maybe Chet.

Doubt Mathurin/Murray/Sharpe/Daniels will fall that much (maybe Griffin, would be a great fit for us).

[BlazersBroncos]

Sochan is a small ball C, not a point-forward like Barnes.

Chet and Sochan as the starting bigs would be wild on defense, best duo in the league potentially with time. I dont think he becomes much more than a Dray level offensive threat though, so you take him 12 if you think the other guys (SGA, Josh, Chet, Dort, ???) can score enough.

[retrobro90]

Sochan is a small ball C, not a point-forward like Barnes.

Chet and Sochan as the starting bigs would be wild on defense, best duo in the league potentially with time. I dont think he becomes much more than a Dray level offensive threat though, so you take him 12 if you think the other guys (SGA, Josh, Chet, Dort, ???) can score enough.

I don't see the brute strength/physicality nor the defensive IQ with Sochan. He's clearly a high motor guy and is a great switch defender and someone you can trust guarding the ball but I don't like his fit next to Chet and I don't think he's got the physical tools to scram with Chet when he gets put in the post. Sochan isn't the kind of heady defender who's gonna quarterback the D calling out actions for the rest of the guys either. Think he's just a decent combo forward body with a high motor and some passing touch. How impactful is that on this roster? I don't see long term starter especially next to the guys we already have.

[jake_swivel]

Wonder if shai would be ok losing his BFF if we could get another Canadian in Mathurin. You can just switch Canadians out, friendship-wise, right?

OKC gets #6 from pacers
Blazers get Dort and 30
Pacers get 12 and 7

Or something like that. I want a run jump guy who can shoot a bit in the backcourt and would prefer not to pay out the nose for Dort. If you can get value for Dort without pissing off Shai I think now is the time to do it.

[Dadouv47]

Wonder if shai would be ok losing his BFF if we could get another Canadian in Mathurin. You can just switch Canadians out, friendship-wise, right?

OKC gets #6 from pacers
Blazers get Dort and 30
Pacers get 12 and 7

Or something like that. I want a run jump guy who can shoot a bit in the backcourt and would prefer not to pay out the nose for Dort. If you can get value for Dort without pissing off Shai I think now is the time to do it.

I don't how Shai will feel about this but this trade is so bad for the Blazers...wish Dort was worth the 6th or 7th pick

[jake_swivel]

Wonder if shai would be ok losing his BFF if we could get another Canadian in Mathurin. You can just switch Canadians out, friendship-wise, right?

OKC gets #6 from pacers
Blazers get Dort and 30
Pacers get 12 and 7

Or something like that. I want a run jump guy who can shoot a bit in the backcourt and would prefer not to pay out the nose for Dort. If you can get value for Dort without pissing off Shai I think now is the time to do it.

I don't how Shai will feel about this but this trade is so bad for the Blazers...wish Dort was worth the 6th or 7th pick

I agree. I’m mostly just following Dame liking the story on Twitter.

[kdthunderup]

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I really don't want Sochan. There's a stratosphere of difference between him and Scottie Barnes (who he's often compared to). Very overrated feel for the game. Has great passing touch but it bails him out often when he dribbles into trouble. The J is a complete mess. He doesn't have half of the imposing physicality that Barnes brings to the table. Not a great IQ guy like Barnes either. I would be very very disappointed in this pick. Probably the last (realistic) guy I would want at 12 and it still wouldn't surprise me. I remember telling Schlect that T-Ferg was from Tulsa before the 2017 draft and sure enough we get the "hometown" kid. Sochan is from Guymon OK for those that don't know.

Who wants bet we draft Ivey and Sochan?

[retrobro90]

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I really don't want Sochan. There's a stratosphere of difference between him and Scottie Barnes (who he's often compared to). Very overrated feel for the game. Has great passing touch but it bails him out often when he dribbles into trouble. The J is a complete mess. He doesn't have half of the imposing physicality that Barnes brings to the table. Not a great IQ guy like Barnes either. I would be very very disappointed in this pick. Probably the last (realistic) guy I would want at 12 and it still wouldn't surprise me. I remember telling Schlect that T-Ferg was from Tulsa before the 2017 draft and sure enough we get the "hometown" kid. Sochan is from Guymon OK for those that don't know.

Who wants bet we draft Ivey and Sochan?

Fischer already saying we're trying to trade up for Sochan smh. Hope its a smokescreen because it would doubly suck if we had to trade an additional asset for him.

[Dadouv47]

Odds of Jabari being the first pick going higher according to bookmakers (between -400 to almost -600). Not a lock but odds of Chet being available at #2 are improving

I won't deny that it would ruin my draft night if Presti pass on Chet to get Ivey or Banchero.

I don't mind that much about Sochan. Not my ideal pick but I'm fine with it. I think it's very likely Sharpe falls to 7 and then Presti could try to get him.

[Devilanche]

There’s the possibility that giddey moves from Pg to sg to sf as he mature and gain more size/ weight as well.

So a guard may still work just need not to be very ball dominant and all 3 need to work on their off ball .

Giddey loses the bulk of his value when you move him off ball.

Moving giddey doesn’t mean he’s no longer the main ball handler , it’s just the position that they defend on the court . At 6’8” he does have the size to handle SF eventually.

[Devilanche]

Wonder if shai would be ok losing his BFF if we could get another Canadian in Mathurin. You can just switch Canadians out, friendship-wise, right?

OKC gets #6 from pacers
Blazers get Dort and 30
Pacers get 12 and 7

Or something like that. I want a run jump guy who can shoot a bit in the backcourt and would prefer not to pay out the nose for Dort. If you can get value for Dort without pissing off Shai I think now is the time to do it.

Too much value for pacers there got siphon off blazers

7 for 12 , dort 30 is closer but still not likely .

[Devilanche]

Just to consolidate a few "realistic" prospects at or around 12 (or in the trade up vicinity) (ftr I'm leaving out Ivey as he seems like a lock to go #4):

Guys I want:

Johnny Davis (please please please please, dream scenario for me)
Benedict Mathurin
AJ Griffin
Keegan Murray (maybe he slips?)
Shaedon Sharpe (maybe? who knows.)
Dyson Daniels
EJ Lidell (probably considered a reach for some or not realistic but I think he's a stud)
Jaden Hardy (probably a reach but a worthy dice roll imo)

Guys I'm neutrally whelmed by:

Malaki Branham
Jalen Duren
Mark Williams

Guys I'd be upset with:

Jeremy Sochan
Ousmane Dieng
Ochai Agbaji

I like Duren a lot but I would rather avoid drafting a big with 12 (except for a big that is very good from 3). I think we can find good Centers in the NBA for a couple of FRPs so I wouldn't focus on trying to draft bigs besides exceptional talents like Mobley/Victor and maybe Chet.

Doubt Mathurin/Murray/Sharpe/Daniels will fall that much (maybe Griffin, would be a great fit for us).

I want Dyson Daniels, Aj griffin, malaki branham and if all 3 are gone I will explore a trade down to take 2 picks in the late teens (12+30) for (16+ and somewhere in the early 20s maybe 22-23) cause then I will twke a stab at ousmane dieng .


Yea underwhelming abit if we can’t trade up from 12 for who we wants .

[ThunderBolt]

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I really don't want Sochan. There's a stratosphere of difference between him and Scottie Barnes (who he's often compared to). Very overrated feel for the game. Has great passing touch but it bails him out often when he dribbles into trouble. The J is a complete mess. He doesn't have half of the imposing physicality that Barnes brings to the table. Not a great IQ guy like Barnes either. I would be very very disappointed in this pick. Probably the last (realistic) guy I would want at 12 and it still wouldn't surprise me. I remember telling Schlect that T-Ferg was from Tulsa before the 2017 draft and sure enough we get the "hometown" kid. Sochan is from Guymon OK for those that don't know.

Who wants bet we draft Ivey and Sochan?

Fischer already saying we're trying to trade up for Sochan smh. Hope its a smokescreen because it would doubly suck if we had to trade an additional asset for him.

Considering hes never been right about anything related to okc, you should be relieved. Remember when he said we had a deal in place to trade kemba?

[retrobro90]

Who wants bet we draft Ivey and Sochan?

Fischer already saying we're trying to trade up for Sochan smh. Hope its a smokescreen because it would doubly suck if we had to trade an additional asset for him.

Considering hes never been right about anything related to okc, you should be relieved. Remember when he said we had a deal in place to trade kemba?

For sure I think Fischer is a guy who essentially says everything he hears from "reputable" sources. Could be that whatever he hears is smoke or info from other teams etc but I don't think he's a type to make stuff up for clicks.

[Devilanche]

Fischer already saying we're trying to trade up for Sochan smh. Hope its a smokescreen because it would doubly suck if we had to trade an additional asset for him.

Considering hes never been right about anything related to okc, you should be relieved. Remember when he said we had a deal in place to trade kemba?

For sure I think Fischer is a guy who essentially says everything he hears from "reputable" sources. Could be that whatever he hears is smoke or info from other teams etc but I don't think he's a type to make stuff up for clicks.

I don’t think he make stuff up but he runs news that he probably doesn’t vet as much as the other .

It’s a huge departure from the past if the organisation is locked into Ivey/sochan this early and both leaked out to the media .

Edit : give it another week or two and we should know who we getting with 30/34 or what we are doing with those too.

[Old Man Game]

I'm open to Sochan but he's like a 30% 3 point shooter. Oof. That said these pros seem to be getting a bit better at developing non-shooters into shooters.

Gosh for a defensive specialist this guy fouls too much.

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/6/1/23148877/2022-nba-draft-prospect-profiles-jeremy-sochan-memphis-grizzlies-baylor-bears

I like his tape though. Shot doesn't look completely broken.