OT: Russia-Ukraine War

[dakomish23]

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Conservatives really sucking off Putin nonstop. Yikes

[E-Balla]

You can't oppress people and succeed in the long run. At least I hope that's the way it is. I have faith in the Ukraine people and the rest of Europe to coalesce against a common enemy. If countries are going to start choosing sides over Putin's ego, then I pity them.

Remind me again of who the most successful countries in the world are? This is a nonsense opinion. Just world fallacy if I've ever seen it. When it comes to oppression you don't get worse than NATO.

We bombed Somalia Wednesday and Israel bombed Damascus yesterday. Let's not do this...

Why are you switching topic on me?

I never said that we were great guys. The U.S. has committed many atrocities. What does this have to do with Putin starting a war?

Look at the part of your post I bolded. I'm just commenting on the idea that you can't oppress people and succeed in the long run. Everyone succeeding is oppressing. That's how the world has been since the start of colonialism unfortunately.

[gavran]

Question. When did perfection become the standard of being good or even in the right?

I see posts about Ukraine's Nazi history. You know who had a deep Nazi history? Germany. Pretty sure they're shoulder to shoukder with us.

Also Ukraine is an independent sovereign nation. It should not be justifiabke that it is invaded by its neighbour to remove it having control of its own destiny.

As we see Finland and Sweden are now under threat. Are we going to dog uo dirt on tjem too?

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I mean why do we even allow Mongolia to exist with their history of the Khanate? They are the real threat here.

Because Mongólia became Buddhist, and have great metal music.

[E-Balla]

Ukraine is nazis. Welp, glad to see the American right has completely hoovered up Russian disinformation. Fascinating.

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

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This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

Where did Terrell say all Ukrainians are Nazis, which is what his tweet was referring to? It doesn’t say that in the screenshots.

Where's the ALL in his tweet at all? Ukrainians are Nazis could just mean "the Ukrainian government is buddy buddy with Neo Nazis and give them high ranking military positions) which would be 100% accurate. Let's not play dumb here. No one condones acts of violence but unlike y'all I also don't condone America getting involved by funding Ukrainian far right Neo Nazis.

How about we talk about AFRICOM or something that concerns us and not the interests of capital and oil barons.

[Sprewell4Three]

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Conservatives really sucking off Putin nonstop. Yikes

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898

Trump armed the Ukrainians lol


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[BlazersBroncos]

Ukraine is nazis. Welp, glad to see the American right has completely hoovered up Russian disinformation. Fascinating.

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

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This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

But why does this matter at all in the context of this invasion?

Its the same type of thinking that America used in the Cold War to intervene in nations that were leaning Communist. These are internal issues that in no way validate invasion. Not to mention Ukraine has a democratically elected government with a outlier group of Neo Nazis, on the other hand Russia is a dictatorship with an authoratian government that leans overwhelmingly fascist.

Its like saying it would be less of an egregious violation of sovereignty if North Korea invaded the South using racism as a dog whistle.

[BlazersBroncos]

Remind me again of who the most successful countries in the world are? This is a nonsense opinion. Just world fallacy if I've ever seen it. When it comes to oppression you don't get worse than NATO.

We bombed Somalia Wednesday and Israel bombed Damascus yesterday. Let's not do this...

Why are you switching topic on me?

I never said that we were great guys. The U.S. has committed many atrocities. What does this have to do with Putin starting a war?

Look at the part of your post I bolded. I'm just commenting on the idea that you can't oppress people and succeed in the long run. Everyone succeeding is oppressing. That's how the world has been since the start of colonialism unfortunately.

Thats how the world has been since the start of the world. You are keying in on colonialism because it was the start of race as a systemic exploitative tool. But Rome wasnt built without oppression, nor was Kush.

But there is a clear difference between the soft oppression of economic exploitation and the hard oppression of military invasion.

[thebuzzardman]

Ukraine is nazis. Welp, glad to see the American right has completely hoovered up Russian disinformation. Fascinating.

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

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This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

Ukraine HAS Nazis in it is different from "they are running the country"

[thebuzzardman]

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Conservatives really sucking off Putin nonstop. Yikes

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898

Trump armed the Ukrainians lol


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Jamie R*tard is more like it...

[E-Balla]

Ukraine is nazis. Welp, glad to see the American right has completely hoovered up Russian disinformation. Fascinating.

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

Read on Twitter

This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

But why does this matter at all in the context of this invasion?

Its the same type of thinking that America used in the Cold War to intervene in nations that were leaning Communist. These are internal issues that in no way validate invasion. Not to mention Ukraine has a democratically elected government with a outlier group of Neo Nazis, on the other hand Russia is a dictatorship with an authoratian government that leans overwhelmingly fascist.

Its like saying it would be less of an egregious violation of sovereignty if North Korea invaded the South using racism as a dog whistle.

It matters because I don't want my country and people in my country funding and supporting Neo-Nazis. You think we would've learned not to fund far right political uprisings in order to feed the Cold War but apparently we haven't.

And South Korea doesn't cozy up to literal Neo-Nazis. We're **** America who are we to call anyone out over racism? Especially SK?

[E-Balla]

Ukraine is nazis. Welp, glad to see the American right has completely hoovered up Russian disinformation. Fascinating.

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

Read on Twitter

This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

Ukraine HAS Nazis in it is different from "they are running the country"

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/17/theres-one-far-right-movement-that-hates-the-kremlin-azov-ukraine-biletsky-nouvelle-droite-venner/

Y'all need some type of foresight, please. A government being buddy buddy with Neo-Nazis is obviously trouble and you shouldn't be willing to fund/praise Neo-Nazis just because the opposition is Russia.

[BlazersBroncos]

So the whole country should be surrendered to a fascist because a few of the people in the country are fascist. Got it.

[E-Balla]

This reminds me of when I was a kid and my dad was asking me if I thought getting rid of Sadam would be a good thing and I said yes. To this day I remember that conversation. Sometimes the best option is minding your business. Ukraine might not be in this situation now if we didn't intervene in 2014.

[Stannis]

So the whole country should be surrendered to a fascist because a few of the people in the country are fascist. Got it.

For real. And this coming from Americans. We can't really talk as half our country put Trump into office lol

[Capn'O]

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Conservatives really sucking off Putin nonstop. Yikes

To be fair, she can probably see Russia from her house.

[BlazersBroncos]

Sometimes the best option is minding your business.

I assume this also applies to people not having interest in fighting racism right?

[semjazy]

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

Read on Twitter

This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

But why does this matter at all in the context of this invasion?

Its the same type of thinking that America used in the Cold War to intervene in nations that were leaning Communist. These are internal issues that in no way validate invasion. Not to mention Ukraine has a democratically elected government with a outlier group of Neo Nazis, on the other hand Russia is a dictatorship with an authoratian government that leans overwhelmingly fascist.

Its like saying it would be less of an egregious violation of sovereignty if North Korea invaded the South using racism as a dog whistle.

It matters because I don't want my country and people in my country funding and supporting Neo-Nazis. You think we would've learned not to fund far right political uprisings in order to feed the Cold War but apparently we haven't.

And South Korea doesn't cozy up to literal Neo-Nazis. We're **** America who are we to call anyone out over racism? Especially SK?

The idea that the Ukrainian government is controlled by neo-Nazis or is supporting them is a lie created by the Russians. Do Ukrainians have a problem with racism? Just like every Slavic or even more broadly European country. But to think that their problem is bigger than that of others is a lie. And I say this as a Pole whose part of the family died at the hands of the UPA in Volhynia in '44. This is just an impression created by the Russians to provide casus belli.

[dakomish23]

The right?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

Even people that are now saying Russia is lying about Nazis have been exposed for talking about it before:

Read on Twitter

This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

Where did Terrell say all Ukrainians are Nazis, which is what his tweet was referring to? It doesn’t say that in the screenshots.

Where's the ALL in his tweet at all? Ukrainians are Nazis could just mean "the Ukrainian government is buddy buddy with Neo Nazis and give them high ranking military positions) which would be 100% accurate. Let's not play dumb here. No one condones acts of violence but unlike y'all I also don't condone America getting involved by funding Ukrainian far right Neo Nazis.

How about we talk about AFRICOM or something that concerns us and not the interests of capital and oil barons.

If I say "Knicks fans are idiots" with the qualifier of "some" or something similar, it's applied as all. In that screenshot he even talks about how nice some were

[E-Balla]

Sometimes the best option is minding your business.

I assume this also applies to people not having interest in fighting racism right?

Yeah. I haven't spent a second asking other countries to bomb America and free black people. Or do you think black Americans aren't your countrymen or that racism you help perpetuate isn't your business? If so why not?

Want to talk about what's our business? How about us bombing Somalia? How about our allies in Israel and Saudi Arabia bombing Damascus and Yemen? That's our business.

[E-Balla]

But why does this matter at all in the context of this invasion?

Its the same type of thinking that America used in the Cold War to intervene in nations that were leaning Communist. These are internal issues that in no way validate invasion. Not to mention Ukraine has a democratically elected government with a outlier group of Neo Nazis, on the other hand Russia is a dictatorship with an authoratian government that leans overwhelmingly fascist.

Its like saying it would be less of an egregious violation of sovereignty if North Korea invaded the South using racism as a dog whistle.

It matters because I don't want my country and people in my country funding and supporting Neo-Nazis. You think we would've learned not to fund far right political uprisings in order to feed the Cold War but apparently we haven't.

And South Korea doesn't cozy up to literal Neo-Nazis. We're **** America who are we to call anyone out over racism? Especially SK?

The idea that the Ukrainian government is controlled by neo-Nazis or is supporting them is a lie created by the Russians. Do Ukrainians have a problem with racism? Just like every Slavic or even more broadly European country. But to think that their problem is bigger than that of others is a lie. And I say this as a Pole whose part of the family died at the hands of the UPA in Volhynia in '44. This is just an impression created by the Russians to provide casus belli.

It is 100% not a lie. You can see with your own eyes they support neo-nazis. Imperialist propaganda really got you doubting your own eyes now?

The rise of neo-nazis in the Ukraine has been well documented over the last 8-9 years. By most left wing media outlets.