WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers

[LakersLegacy]

Westbrook for DeMar and the bad 3 year contract of 17 games per season Zo Ball who can’t really run or jump anymore

[Inspektor1312]

Bomb? Hachimura? A firecracker at best lmao

[Jazz9]

I don't quite get the trade, what need does he fill for the Lakers?
Or is it just purely opportunistic?
(as in we can trade a useless player+second round picks for a better player so might as well do it even if the fit isn't great)

[nzahir]

All solved with Lebron sliding down to the 3, which he's there anyway, the Lakers are normally just playing Lebron as a point forward, with only other 1 big man on the floor with him because of poor roster construction.

It's less about positions on the floor, and more about complimentary skillsets on the floor.

Turner spaces the floor on offense/defends the rim on defense.

Yes and no

Can Turner, AD, and Bron hold up on the perimeter?

There is length, strength, and great shot blocking

But is there enough speed (and even hustle) to guard the perimeter?

Dennis/Bev and Reaves are a good group to pressure ball handlers and give effort, so maybe?

Not giving up both 1sts for Turner though

Having both big men being rim defenders isn't a bad ploy.

And at least if Turner's man brings him out to the perimeter, AD is there in the paint playing coverage. And vice versa with AD on the perimeter would possibly be even more aggressive knowing Turner is in the paint to cover up for when he's beaten on the perimeter.

Ham asking the bigs to play drop coverage is a simple enough scheme to implement. If a team burns you from mid-range (the most inefficient shot on offense), that's a way I'm willing to lose by. Just gotta tip your hat and move on.

Also Bev would definitely need to be in the deal if the Pacers aren't taking on Westbrook.

Thats the issue

Bev has use and value for us

Turner is a C who wants to get paid, not much trade value there

I don't see him getting more than a late 1st and that may include a cntract with 2 years+

I still think Russ, 2027 unprotected and a swap or 2 2nds for Turner and Hield makes the most sense for both sides

Dennis, Reaves, Lebron, AD, Turner
Bev, Hield, Rui, Gabriel/TBJ, Bryant
Christie, Lonnie

Unsure if any team would find any value in Lonnie, maybe try to recoup a 2nd or 2

[RHODEY]

What are the Wizards doing? What am I missing with Rui?

Helping the Lakers out because hey...they are the Lakers. The league wants to rescue the nba's most unlucky and unfortunate franchise. Espn also approves this

Spoiler:

HIGHWAY ROBBERY

I mean trade.

[Heej]

I don't quite get the trade, what need does he fill for the Lakers?
Or is it just purely opportunistic?
(as in we can trade a useless player+second round picks for a better player so might as well do it even if the fit isn't great)

Size on the wings

[jehosafats]

Next is to trade Bev+Lonnie+1st for an all star type wing.

Dejounte Murray tho

[iggymcfrack]

I don't quite get the trade, what need does he fill for the Lakers?
Or is it just purely opportunistic?
(as in we can trade a useless player+second round picks for a better player so might as well do it even if the fit isn't great)

Honestly I think it’s just an incompetent front office trying to show LeBron that they’re doing SOMETHING. I don’t see how he should even crack the 10-man rotation when healthy. He maybe has a little value as a project you can teach to be a competent bench scorer down the line if he gets better on defense, but on a team that’s trying to win now? Who needs defense and floor spacing? He’s going to be a negative for them. I really think the trade makes them worse just for how many minutes they’re gonna feel obliged to give him.

[NyKnicks1714]

People are gonna laugh, but the Lakers aren't far away from contending in the west...The west is dog**** this year. Might be the worst I've ever seen it. Every team is live and a trade away from having a real shot.

It's not that crazy, and it would take a healthy AD+ LeBron and a couple of significant upsets, but it's possible. They'd need to move Westbrook and one or both of their picks though, and it's clear they have no interest in that.

[HMFFL]

Did some reading on why the Wizards gave up on Hachimura and in summary: injury proned, poor defensive awareness, below average 3 pointer shooter. The only strength appears to be his size. Maybe practicing against LeBron will help him discover a role.

He also left the team for along period of time. His time was done with them. However, playing for, and living in Los Angeles will be a shorter travel distance to Japan.

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[Decipher]

I won't be surprised if he does well on the Lakers as he's a talented guy with good size plus the Wizards org is a bit of a mess

General consensus seems to be that Wiz owner won't sanction a tank or pay massive amounts of tax to build a genuine contender but he also approves franchise killing contracts

They're the very definition of treadmill now & Rui might benefit from a change in scenery

[fteru6uhre54ew]

Can't believe Pelinka did a good sign

I watched 5 minutes of Rui Highlights and the first thing I notice is that a lot of times Kuzma was running the offense... god lord Wizards.

[Capn'O]

Why do the Lakers always get these deals?

What???

Pistons got bog for olynk

Clippers got Covington and Powell for nothing

We gave 3 seconds, including a second that’s like a late first (Chicago second)… no one got fleeced in this trade.

That is a trash package

[PhilBlackson]

At the costs of a bunch of meaningless SRPs, it's not much of a cost take a flyer on potential 3+D prospect that the Lakers can also then easily retain moving forward.

3+D? He's a low volume three point shooter. His 5.9 3PA per 100 possessions would rank 10th on the Lakers, and he isn't a particularly good outside shooter at 34% this year and 36% during his career. He's a weird player because he has more of a midrange game, and he's an undersized power forward defensively. He also doesn't get to the line very often despite not being an outside shooter.

They didn't give up a lot, but they didn't necessarily get much back in return. He's a terrible fit with the Lakers roster.

He's a terrible fit based on what exactly?! lol

He's much needed wing depth that as you said is a career 36% 3pt shooter...is that elite?! Ofc not but it's not bad either and for the Lakers especially they'd kill to fill out their roster with a bunch of guys shooting that percentage but at least Rui is a start & don't be surprised if his numbers improve with the open looks LeBron (in particular) & AD will help him get. He also can allow them to play AD as small ball C more often vs trying to run around a bunch of 6'4 and under wings as they presently have.

I get the desire to see the Lakers suffer as such a spoiled franchise/fanbase but adding a likely rotation player that can help them do some things they couldn't previously do at the cost of next to nothing, isn't really the flex for it.

[DaPessimist]

I don't like the trade for either team.

Hard to believe the Wizard can't get more than 2nd round picks.

[antonac]

I mostly feel bad for Hachimura, in his interviews he just wanted to be somewhere where he'd be part of a project. He'll play garbage time minutes and be forgotten about in LA, he needs far too much work to make a significant impact.

[tarantism]

Rui isn't a bad player, but he's definitely not "3&D". He's got a nice mid range game and also cuts well off the ball, which might shine more with LeBron than it did with Washington. He's an okay 3pt shooter but a minus defender, and the Lakers don't exactly have the lineups to hide him effectively. To me he profiles as a 6th man type bench scorer. Does he have some chemistry with Russ from their Wiz days?

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[Liam_Gallagher]

This deal is like shaking the couch for beer money and finding a $100 bill for the Lakers.

[HMFFL]

A competent GM would have never given up three second round picks.

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[Liam_Gallagher]

A competent GM would have never given up three second round picks.

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Why? There's like a 80% chance that all three players don't make a final roster. And about a 95% chance that none of the three ends up better than Rui.