Waived players tracking thread

[biggestbullsfan]

Still, a source close to the situation wouldn’t totally dismiss a buyout after the dust settled on the new rosters after a crazy trade deadline. It figures to be a very crowded buyout market — especially for point guards — which theoretically diminishes Rose’s chances of finding another team. Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Patrick Beverly and Reggie Jackson are all expected to agree to buyouts, if they haven’t already, with their respective teams.

“I haven’t even thought about it. I haven’t thought about it,” Rose said. “Normally around that time, the ball is in their court. So basically, you’re getting directions from other people to tell you where to go or what your next job is.”

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-derrick-rose-dnp-streak-continues-20230211-tnrsg3fctnc4zmwa4ec3undwni-story.html

I’ll be honest. I’m a Rose fan but if I’m choosing between him and Russ, I’m going Russ. Rose would simply be a nostalgic signing and i don’t think he’d change much. Russ would at least make things interesting. For bad or worse. I’ll be here for it lol

[vxmike]

Can't really think of a worse fit with this team than Russ. Inefficient, non-shooting turnover machine who takes the ball away from Zach and DeMar? Hell yeah!

Since the season is effectively over, I don't care. But if Ak truly believe Russ helps this team...oof.

They need to take the ball out of Zach and Demar’s hands. Lavine makes lousy decisions and Demar slows down the movement with his iso-ball (it’s effective but not good for his teammates). Lavine is a great catch and shoot guy. I just want a guy who will pass the ball as an actual PG and play hard.

[HomoSapien]

Still, a source close to the situation wouldn’t totally dismiss a buyout after the dust settled on the new rosters after a crazy trade deadline. It figures to be a very crowded buyout market — especially for point guards — which theoretically diminishes Rose’s chances of finding another team. Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Patrick Beverly and Reggie Jackson are all expected to agree to buyouts, if they haven’t already, with their respective teams.

“I haven’t even thought about it. I haven’t thought about it,” Rose said. “Normally around that time, the ball is in their court. So basically, you’re getting directions from other people to tell you where to go or what your next job is.”

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-derrick-rose-dnp-streak-continues-20230211-tnrsg3fctnc4zmwa4ec3undwni-story.html

I’ll be honest. I’m a Rose fan but if I’m choosing between him and Russ, I’m going Russ. Rose would simply be a nostalgic signing and i don’t think he’d change much. Russ would at least make things interesting. For bad or worse. I’ll be here for it lol

I don't know. If we're getting the Rose from the previous few seasons, that's actually a significant upgrade over Ayo and White. He's also grown into a pretty reliable three-point shooter.

The problem with Rose obviously is that you just don't know how much you can rely on him to be healthy, but maybe the 20 DNPs have preserved him.

[Andi Obst]

Can't really think of a worse fit with this team than Russ. Inefficient, non-shooting turnover machine who takes the ball away from Zach and DeMar? Hell yeah!

Since the season is effectively over, I don't care. But if Ak truly believe Russ helps this team...oof.

Yeah lets stick with this current team! No reason to mess with it!!! They are looking so good right now! Russ will give us 8 of the worst assists possible per game, cant have that!!! I mean we all know not one of those 8 assists will go to Zach on the 3 point line!

I'm the last person you have to convince that moves should've been made. Adding bad players, though? I mean, like I said, the season is over and it doesn't matter. But it seems like many people here haven't watched Russ in a while.

[Andi Obst]

Can't really think of a worse fit with this team than Russ. Inefficient, non-shooting turnover machine who takes the ball away from Zach and DeMar? Hell yeah!

Since the season is effectively over, I don't care. But if Ak truly believe Russ helps this team...oof.

They need to take the ball out of Zach and Demar’s hands. Lavine makes lousy decisions and Demar slows down the movement with his iso-ball (it’s effective but not good for his teammates). Lavine is a great catch and shoot guy. I just want a guy who will pass the ball as an actual PG and play hard.

Cool. Let's find that guy.

[vxmike]

Can't really think of a worse fit with this team than Russ. Inefficient, non-shooting turnover machine who takes the ball away from Zach and DeMar? Hell yeah!

Since the season is effectively over, I don't care. But if Ak truly believe Russ helps this team...oof.

They need to take the ball out of Zach and Demar’s hands. Lavine makes lousy decisions and Demar slows down the movement with his iso-ball (it’s effective but not good for his teammates). Lavine is a great catch and shoot guy. I just want a guy who will pass the ball as an actual PG and play hard.

Cool. Let's find that guy.

Westbrook is a willing passer and plays hard. Yeah he’s got deficiencies but the whole roster has deficiencies. Just don’t play him with Drummond who can’t shoot either. Pretty much every other rotation player on the Bulls is a functional 3pt shooter they don’t get a lot of looks. It’s not like he’s going to make the team even worse LOL.

[BullChit]

They need to take the ball out of Zach and Demar’s hands. Lavine makes lousy decisions and Demar slows down the movement with his iso-ball (it’s effective but not good for his teammates). Lavine is a great catch and shoot guy. I just want a guy who will pass the ball as an actual PG and play hard.

Cool. Let's find that guy.

Westbrook is a willing passer and plays hard. Yeah he’s got deficiencies but the whole roster has deficiencies. Just don’t play him with Drummond who can’t shoot either. Pretty much every other rotation player on the Bulls is a functional 3pt shooter they don’t get a lot of looks. It’s not like he’s going to make the team even worse LOL.

It's not like they would be signing someone like let's say.. oh I dunno... Tristan Thompson!

[Tutupa]

I´m a bit suprised that Pat Beverly is not mentioned here. Of all the point guards waived (or to be waived) he is the best defender and 3P shooter with a respectable 37% on his career. Our guys need some push and fire in court which he could bring.

Also, he is from Chicago. On 2019 he said this regarding his FA:

"I am Chicago," he said. "I'm from Chicago. I bleed Chicago. I really think I can help the city. I think I can save the city. I inspire already. And I'd be a great inspiration just walking around the city of Chicago, knowing I'm from there, knowing that someone made it out and you can go and do the same."

He is said to be interested in returning to the T´wolves but I think he will be open to come here.

Do you think AKME wants no part of him?

[Andi Obst]

Westbrook is a willing passer and plays hard.

Plays hard based on what? He's one of the most destructive defensive players in the league.

Look, I don't even want to discuss this any further. I don't care. Sign him. The season is lost.

It’s not like he’s going to make the team even worse LOL.

You mean like he did with the Lakers?

Okay. Now I'm done.

[Wingy]

I’ll be honest. I’m a Rose fan but if I’m choosing between him and Russ, I’m going Russ. Rose would simply be a nostalgic signing and i don’t think he’d change much. Russ would at least make things interesting. For bad or worse. I’ll be here for it lol

I don't know. If we're getting the Rose from the previous few seasons, that's actually a significant upgrade over Ayo and White. He's also grown into a pretty reliable three-point shooter.

The problem with Rose obviously is that you just don't know how much you can rely on him to be healthy, but maybe the 20 DNPs have preserved him.

A friend who watched the Knicks a lot 2 years ago during their resurgent season described Derrick as long in the tooth defensively. 2 years later? Sure that’s the reason he can’t get burn for Thibs.

Combine him with our defensive stalwarts Zach and DeMar on the perimeter, then having them all funnel to Vuc. Sounds like a good way to give up 150 all the time.

But let’s do it cause we can still stealth tank despite what the naysayers will tell you.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

My motivation to sign Westbrook has waned these last couple days. I don’t want to catch lightning in a bottle. This team isn’t worth it. Better to keep losing - which Russ might’ve contributed to anyway - and maximize our chances of keeping the pick.

Worst case scenario is that we hand Orlando a pick in the 5-7 range, and the awful optics mean AK is held accountable.

I firmly believe that they semi "blow it up" this offseason

The “semi” is what worries me.

[erlim]

Danny Green signing with the Cavs is a good example of a player signing with a team to showcase his skills. Granted, he has three rings so he does not necessarily need to ring chase. But he's joining a roster with a puncher's chance of winning and looking for a team he could potentially stay with come this offseason. I think for the Westbrook naysayers who are saying that we can't contend so he should look elsewhere, the Green signing is a good example of why he would potentially consider us. Not saying that he's definitely coming here, but we are certainly a possible destination.

For record, for all the hate that the front office has gotten, we have been a destination since AKME took over. They convinced DeRozan, Ball, Caruso, Drummond and Dragic to come here. The only free agent that we courted that was publicly reported that didn't come here is Danilo Gallinari who chose Boston over us. The track record is there that they can convince guys to come. Outside of Gasol, it's hard to think of any quality free agents that chose us under the Paxson/Forman years. Most of the guys that came were second tier or guys we went after as secondary options after missing out on the big fish. Now you can certainly argue that the Vucevic and Markkanen trades may not have been good in hindsight or that drafting Williams high may have been a mistake, but in terms of convincing free agents to come to Chicago they have been pretty solid thus far.

That’s the thing though. Was it the FO really making it happen? Or was it recruiting from guys like Vuc and Zach to get people like DDR and Dragic to come on board and the FO worked out the paperwork?

[BahamaBull]

I´m a bit suprised that Pat Beverly is not mentioned here. Of all the point guards waived (or to be waived) he is the best defender and 3P shooter with a respectable 37% on his career. Our guys need some push and fire in court which he could bring.

Also, he is from Chicago. On 2019 he said this regarding his FA:

"I am Chicago," he said. "I'm from Chicago. I bleed Chicago. I really think I can help the city. I think I can save the city. I inspire already. And I'd be a great inspiration just walking around the city of Chicago, knowing I'm from there, knowing that someone made it out and you can go and do the same."

He is said to be interested in returning to the T´wolves but I think he will be open to come here.

Do you think AKME wants no part of him?

All the players bought out want to be in a good team/good situation...they want to be a part of a playoff run and would try to cash in next season...

If Im a player the Bulls would be at the bottom of my list. We suck.

[MikeDC]

Tanking doesn't help either the Magic have our draft pick!

The only way to increase our chance to get the top 4 pick is by going 0-26 the rest of the way.

The tanking plan is even more insane than the playoff plan.

We are 12 games out of catching up to the bottom 4 teams.
We're in the play-in now, and 2.5 games out of a 7th/8th seed play-in.
We currently have an 80% chance of not getting our pick, even strong tanking at this point with the season mostly over isn't going to change much.

I don't think that's accurate. While we can't catch the bottom 4, it's very feasible to be 5th or 6th, which will raise our chance of keeping for pick from ~20% to ~40%. Even if we got into the top 4, our chance of keeping the pick would only be 50%.

Teams need to pick a lane. And the tanking lane is about 6 lanes over. Bulls are stuck on the NBA treadmill by their inaction over the summer & trade deadline.

The problem isn't that our odds of getting into the top 4 are out of reach, it's that, unlike those other teams, we get nothing if we're not in the top 4. If one of them misses out, they at least get the #7 pick or whatever. We get jack ****. It's really the Bulls being stuck on the NBA treadmill by their action two years ago.

[FriedRise]

Read on Twitter

Is this tampering??

[Bandit King]

Derrick Rose come home!!!

[Betta Bulleavit]

Read on Twitter

Is this tampering??

Being that no buyout has been reported at this point, yes, it would be tampering.

[GoBlue72391]

Imagine tampering for washed Russ

[Jcool0]

Imagine tampering for washed Russ

He is averaging 16/6/7 and we currently don't have a PG under 36 on the roster.

[GoBlue72391]

Imagine tampering for washed Russ

He is averaging 16/6/7 and we currently don't have a PG under 36 on the roster.

And we're going to lose another draft pick over it, too! Totally worth it!