Woj - Bucks choose Griffin/add Stotts/Prunty

[fan230]

Something about Nurse must have discouraged the Bucks. Anyway if he is that strong a candidate, he would get an offer somewhere soon. I hope Bud gets a hc offer soon too.

[machu46]

To be fair re: Kidd, he was probably the best coach Giannis had personally experienced at that point in his life, maybe by a significant margin.


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[rilamann]

If I have the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, I'm not rolling the dice on a guy who might be good, or might not be good. If he ends up not being a good head coach, you will have then wasted a big chunk of Giannis' prime.

Give me a proven guy, I'll take my chances on a rookie head coach after Giannis retires.

[MickeyDavis]

This is a coaching hire that a rebuilding team makes who doesn't want to spend big $$$ money on a coach. You take a chance and maybe the guy works out, maybe he don't.

When you have arguably the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, you have to hire a proven head coach. This isn't the time to be taking a chance on a guy like Griffin.

The incompetence by the Bucks just continues to amaze me.

So proven head coach Nurse, who rode Kawhi to a title 4 years ago and nothing since? Or proven coach Rivers who rode 3 HOF's to a title 15 years ago and has a 104-100 playoff record? The strawman pedestal Nurse is on for some is hilarious.

[hakjak]

I'm strangely optimistic.

[BUCKnation]

Yeah, this isn’t like we chose him over Kerr or something. There weren’t any veteran, can’t miss coaches available to be upset about passing over. Nurse was probably the best of the lot but he certainly has some warts.

[rilamann]

This is a coaching hire that a rebuilding team makes who doesn't want to spend big $$$ money on a coach. You take a chance and maybe the guy works out, maybe he don't.

When you have arguably the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, you have to hire a proven head coach. This isn't the time to be taking a chance on a guy like Griffin.

The incompetence by the Bucks just continues to amaze me.

So proven head coach Nurse, who rode Kawhi to a title 4 years ago and nothing since? Or proven coach Rivers who rode 3 HOF's to a title 15 years ago and has a 104-100 playoff record? The strawman pedestal Nurse is on for some is hilarious.

Nurse is 1/1 when it comes to winning a championship while having a HOF player on his roster.

Hell yeah that's the guy I would have loved to have seen coach Giannis.

[JayMKE]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

Look at the other names that were mentioned; Mark Jackson, Doc Rivers, Monty Williams. I think the writing is on the wall the kind of "coach" Giannis likes, he was a fan Jason Kidd as we know too. That's bothersome, it wasn't Budenholzer's lack of presence in the huddle being the problem but the trust the plan mindset with dumb system. I'm not believing in this team being able to overcome shortcomings right now, I think we fall flat on our face so hopefully Giannis really really likes Griffin enough to sign that extension because what the hell was the point otherwise?

Do we know for a fact that the Bucks interviewing those guys was because of Giannis, and not just Horst/the organization doing agent favors (which happens all the time)? Because the fact that none of those guys even made the final 3 makes me feel like it was more of the latter.

Maybe we fall flat on our face. Or maybe Griffin is a stud HC and is the exact voice the locker room needs. I’m gonna wait and see.

We don't know anything for a fact but there definitely was a type they were looking at and that's not the type of coach I'm a fan of, why or who made that decision I don't know. I just get the feeling we have a bunch of incompetents running our team, from our meddling owners to our unqualified GM who was only hired as a compromise between our meddling owners. I feel another compromise might have happened, they certainly saved themselves a lot of money. Pretty big roll of the dice. I'll believe when they're raising the trophy otherwise I think they're blowing it.

[milweskee]

Same vibes as having Thanasis on the roster.

[RiotPunch]

If I have the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, I'm not rolling the dice on a guy who might be good, or might not be good. If he ends up not being a good head coach, you will have then wasted a big chunk of Giannis' prime.

Give me a proven guy, I'll take my chances on a rookie head coach after Giannis retires.

That's all fine in theory, but sometimes the best guy is one that hasn't had the opportunity. Griffin, for all his question marks, is highly qualified and endorsed by our star player. I was as big a Nurse guy as anyone, but even I can see a scenario where his schtick could run Giannis out of town.

Udoka reached the Finals, Ham made WCF with a low seed Laker squad with a mid-season shake-up, Nurse himself had success in his first year. Kerr. Lue.

For me, it comes down to his staff. Maybe reserve chastising the org until we see how this plays out.

[Sigra]

This is a coaching hire that a rebuilding team makes who doesn't want to spend big $$$ money on a coach. You take a chance and maybe the guy works out, maybe he don't.

When you have arguably the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, you have to hire a proven head coach. This isn't the time to be taking a chance on a guy like Griffin.

The incompetence by the Bucks just continues to amaze me.

Warriors hired rookie coach Kerr in 2014 and won ring in his first season. Kerr had 0 experience. Wasnt even assistent. Rebuilding move I guess.

[MickeyDavis]

If I have the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, I'm not rolling the dice on a guy who might be good, or might not be good. If he ends up not being a good head coach, you will have then wasted a big chunk of Giannis' prime.

Give me a proven guy, I'll take my chances on a rookie head coach after Giannis retires.

That's all fine in theory, but sometimes the best guy is one that hasn't had the opportunity. Griffin, for all his question marks, is highly qualified and endorsed by our star player. I was as big a Nurse guy as anyone, but even I can see a scenario where his schtick could run Giannis out of town.

Udoka reached the Finals, Ham made WCF with a low seed Laker squad with a mid-season shake-up, Nurse himself had success in his first year.

For me, it comes down to his staff. Maybe reserve chastising the org until we see how this plays out.

A reasonable take. GTFO

[Profound23]

Interesting though that they don’t mention Jrue

A little interesting that Jrue wasn't there and Kris was. Obviously scheduling issues can come up.

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1.) I think the only reason Khris was invited was because he was part of the group that approved Bud and they didn't want to make him feel like he was a castoff.

2.) I can see Jrue being the kind of guy like "I don't care who you hire, I am going to play hard no matter who the coach is." Maybe they invited him and he declined.

[JayMKE]

What really sucks is hiring a rebuilding coach while not doing any actual rebuilding, guess the same could be said about a developmental coach for a team that's almost entirely over 30.

[Profound23]

This is a coaching hire that a rebuilding team makes who doesn't want to spend big $$$ money on a coach. You take a chance and maybe the guy works out, maybe he don't.

When you have arguably the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, you have to hire a proven head coach. This isn't the time to be taking a chance on a guy like Griffin.

The incompetence by the Bucks just continues to amaze me.

Warriors hired rookie coach Kerr in 2014 and won ring in his first season. Kerr had 0 experience. Wasnt even assistent. Rebuilding move I guess.

If I have the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, I'm not rolling the dice on a guy who might be good, or might not be good. If he ends up not being a good head coach, you will have then wasted a big chunk of Giannis' prime.

Give me a proven guy, I'll take my chances on a rookie head coach after Giannis retires.

That's all fine in theory, but sometimes the best guy is one that hasn't had the opportunity. Griffin, for all his question marks, is highly qualified and endorsed by our star player. I was as big a Nurse guy as anyone, but even I can see a scenario where his schtick could run Giannis out of town.

Udoka reached the Finals, Ham made WCF with a low seed Laker squad with a mid-season shake-up, Nurse himself had success in his first year.

For me, it comes down to his staff. Maybe reserve chastising the org until we see how this plays out.

A reasonable take. GTFO

My points exactly

[stillgotgame]

Giannis had nothing to do with hiring Kidd. When Kidd was fired Giannis initially showed loyalty to him (he came an all-star under Kidd). BFD.

This. Giannis was just being loyal.

It’s a player’s league and we have the best player. Of course we got his approval on a new coach.
Times change.

[ReddoverKobe]

I don't know what to think about coaching anymore. I saw Bud make some aswful mistakes and he never seem to adjust his game plan, or it was too late yet he is seen as a very good coach.

[Prez]

Look at the other names that were mentioned; Mark Jackson, Doc Rivers, Monty Williams. I think the writing is on the wall the kind of "coach" Giannis likes, he was a fan Jason Kidd as we know too. That's bothersome, it wasn't Budenholzer's lack of presence in the huddle being the problem but the trust the plan mindset with dumb system. I'm not believing in this team being able to overcome shortcomings right now, I think we fall flat on our face so hopefully Giannis really really likes Griffin enough to sign that extension because what the hell was the point otherwise?

Do we know for a fact that the Bucks interviewing those guys was because of Giannis, and not just Horst/the organization doing agent favors (which happens all the time)? Because the fact that none of those guys even made the final 3 makes me feel like it was more of the latter.

Maybe we fall flat on our face. Or maybe Griffin is a stud HC and is the exact voice the locker room needs. I’m gonna wait and see.

We don't know anything for a fact but there definitely was a type they were looking at and that's not the type of coach I'm a fan of, why or who made that decision I don't know. I just get the feeling we have a bunch of incompetents running our team, from our meddling owners to our unqualified GM who was only hired as a compromise between our meddling owners. I feel another compromise might have happened, they certainly saved themselves a lot of money. Pretty big roll of the dice. I'll believe when they're raising the trophy otherwise I think they're blowing it.

What was the type? The coaching candidates included damn near every possible type of coach lol, you just listed the ones that paint one particular picture. What was the type with Borrego, Atkinson, Chris Quinn, Kevin Young, Joseph Blair, etc?

I was concerned about Doc, Jackson, etc being “candidates” but the further we get from it and seeing who actually made the final 3, the more it seems like they weren’t in that serious of consideration and it was more of a favor to them/their agents.

[jute2003]

Nobody's mentioned who wasn't invited to the Big Meeting yet.

We don't really know that he wasn't do we? Just that he didn't attend

[-Jragon-]

Someone explain why this isn't like when the "players coach" Ray Rhodes got hired by GB and the players ran the show... who is going to control KM chucking and Giannis being a bowling ball