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clyde21 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:RIPskaterdude wrote:He won't last to 4th imo. I could see him going late 2nd or mid 3rd
Yeah, I'm a no in that case. Too many good backs in this draft, and we have too many pressing needs. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kyle disagrees with me....
if Kyle takes another 3rd round rb I swear I'm gonna fkn lose it
wco81 wrote:Maiocco mocks Walker, DE from Georgia, to the 49ers.
CrimsonCrew wrote:RIPskaterdude wrote:They're not gonna make any improvements to the OL again, are they?
I think we need to be prepared for that. Ironically, the OL may improve simply due to Banks leaving for a big payday. But other than DT, where we no longer even have a single starting-caliber player, center is almost certainly the biggest hole on this team. And we still don't seem to have an answer for when Trent finally hangs them up.
clyde21 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:RIPskaterdude wrote:They're not gonna make any improvements to the OL again, are they?
I think we need to be prepared for that. Ironically, the OL may improve simply due to Banks leaving for a big payday. But other than DT, where we no longer even have a single starting-caliber player, center is almost certainly the biggest hole on this team. And we still don't seem to have an answer for when Trent finally hangs them up.
Membou is the only OL that makes sense at 11 for us tbh, other than that well have to dip in the 2nd/3rd days. Don't see why can't take like a Tate Ratledge in the 2nd and convert him to a C or something. There are some other OL that fit what Kyle likes, like RT Logan Brown.
but yea, were not gonna get Trent's heir apparent in this class and we should come to terms with that.
CrimsonCrew wrote:clyde21 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:
I think we need to be prepared for that. Ironically, the OL may improve simply due to Banks leaving for a big payday. But other than DT, where we no longer even have a single starting-caliber player, center is almost certainly the biggest hole on this team. And we still don't seem to have an answer for when Trent finally hangs them up.
Membou is the only OL that makes sense at 11 for us tbh, other than that well have to dip in the 2nd/3rd days. Don't see why can't take like a Tate Ratledge in the 2nd and convert him to a C or something. There are some other OL that fit what Kyle likes, like RT Logan Brown.
but yea, were not gonna get Trent's heir apparent in this class and we should come to terms with that.
There are some interesting potential tackle-to-center converts, too. Zabel and Mbow have been mentioned in the second or third, Charles Grant or Carson Vinson later on.
What do you think about Milum at center, Clyde? Seems like he's kind of plummeting after the short arms, and I've seen him available in the third round of some mocks (ESPN has him as their 168th-ranked player). Seems like he'd be great value as a guy who could play all over the OL in a pinch, and could develop into a great interior player, though I'm not sure of his functional strength.
If we're going true center, really the only one I see potentially starting in year one (and even that is unlikely under Shanahan) is Jared Wilson. After that, Seth McLaughlin, Jonah Monheim, and Jake Majors seem like the draftable players, and I've seen them in every different ranking order imaginable, but wouldn't hold my breath on any to start right away, or even at all. And all three have really short arms, with Monheim and Majors in particular both below 30.5".
Honestly, Drew Kendall might rise up boards a bit. He's also undersized, but right in line with those other guys in terms of height and weight. His arms were 31.75", though, and he ran a good 40.
Pattersonca65 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:clyde21 wrote:
Membou is the only OL that makes sense at 11 for us tbh, other than that well have to dip in the 2nd/3rd days. Don't see why can't take like a Tate Ratledge in the 2nd and convert him to a C or something. There are some other OL that fit what Kyle likes, like RT Logan Brown.
but yea, were not gonna get Trent's heir apparent in this class and we should come to terms with that.
There are some interesting potential tackle-to-center converts, too. Zabel and Mbow have been mentioned in the second or third, Charles Grant or Carson Vinson later on.
What do you think about Milum at center, Clyde? Seems like he's kind of plummeting after the short arms, and I've seen him available in the third round of some mocks (ESPN has him as their 168th-ranked player). Seems like he'd be great value as a guy who could play all over the OL in a pinch, and could develop into a great interior player, though I'm not sure of his functional strength.
If we're going true center, really the only one I see potentially starting in year one (and even that is unlikely under Shanahan) is Jared Wilson. After that, Seth McLaughlin, Jonah Monheim, and Jake Majors seem like the draftable players, and I've seen them in every different ranking order imaginable, but wouldn't hold my breath on any to start right away, or even at all. And all three have really short arms, with Monheim and Majors in particular both below 30.5".
Honestly, Drew Kendall might rise up boards a bit. He's also undersized, but right in line with those other guys in terms of height and weight. His arms were 31.75", though, and he ran a good 40.
What do you think of Drake Nugent on the PS?
CrimsonCrew wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:
There are some interesting potential tackle-to-center converts, too. Zabel and Mbow have been mentioned in the second or third, Charles Grant or Carson Vinson later on.
What do you think about Milum at center, Clyde? Seems like he's kind of plummeting after the short arms, and I've seen him available in the third round of some mocks (ESPN has him as their 168th-ranked player). Seems like he'd be great value as a guy who could play all over the OL in a pinch, and could develop into a great interior player, though I'm not sure of his functional strength.
If we're going true center, really the only one I see potentially starting in year one (and even that is unlikely under Shanahan) is Jared Wilson. After that, Seth McLaughlin, Jonah Monheim, and Jake Majors seem like the draftable players, and I've seen them in every different ranking order imaginable, but wouldn't hold my breath on any to start right away, or even at all. And all three have really short arms, with Monheim and Majors in particular both below 30.5".
Honestly, Drew Kendall might rise up boards a bit. He's also undersized, but right in line with those other guys in terms of height and weight. His arms were 31.75", though, and he ran a good 40.
What do you think of Drake Nugent on the PS?
I would have loved to have given him a start or two at center when the season was over so we could see what he can do.
Honestly, Nugent is probably comparable to McLaughlin, Monheim, and Majors. He's undersized, a center-only prospect who may lack the functional strength to be a great IOL. But despite being only 6'1", his arms are 33", which is markedly longer than any of those other guys. He also doesn't crack 300 pounds (298), but that's only eight pounds lighter than the heaviest of those other guys. He has elite agility for the position, though his explosive numbers were mediocre. He should certainly get his shot after what we saw from Brendel, though. Zakelj and Bartch should also be in the mix.
CrimsonCrew wrote:clyde21 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:
I think we need to be prepared for that. Ironically, the OL may improve simply due to Banks leaving for a big payday. But other than DT, where we no longer even have a single starting-caliber player, center is almost certainly the biggest hole on this team. And we still don't seem to have an answer for when Trent finally hangs them up.
Membou is the only OL that makes sense at 11 for us tbh, other than that well have to dip in the 2nd/3rd days. Don't see why can't take like a Tate Ratledge in the 2nd and convert him to a C or something. There are some other OL that fit what Kyle likes, like RT Logan Brown.
but yea, were not gonna get Trent's heir apparent in this class and we should come to terms with that.
There are some interesting potential tackle-to-center converts, too. Zabel and Mbow have been mentioned in the second or third, Charles Grant or Carson Vinson later on.
What do you think about Milum at center, Clyde? Seems like he's kind of plummeting after the short arms, and I've seen him available in the third round of some mocks (ESPN has him as their 168th-ranked player). Seems like he'd be great value as a guy who could play all over the OL in a pinch, and could develop into a great interior player, though I'm not sure of his functional strength.
If we're going true center, really the only one I see potentially starting in year one (and even that is unlikely under Shanahan) is Jared Wilson. After that, Seth McLaughlin, Jonah Monheim, and Jake Majors seem like the draftable players, and I've seen them in every different ranking order imaginable, but wouldn't hold my breath on any to start right away, or even at all. And all three have really short arms, with Monheim and Majors in particular both below 30.5".
Honestly, Drew Kendall might rise up boards a bit. He's also undersized, but right in line with those other guys in terms of height and weight. His arms were 31.75", though, and he ran a good 40.
Jikkle wrote:Looks like a lot of athletic OL this draft so I'd be surprised if we don't at least use one pick on an IOL or two.
I think the odds of going DL at 11 are pretty high at this point since it seems like the plan is to overhaul the defense this offseason but I can see the 3rd and 4th rounds being a sweet spot for picking up OL.
clyde21 wrote:Jikkle wrote:Looks like a lot of athletic OL this draft so I'd be surprised if we don't at least use one pick on an IOL or two.
I think the odds of going DL at 11 are pretty high at this point since it seems like the plan is to overhaul the defense this offseason but I can see the 3rd and 4th rounds being a sweet spot for picking up OL.
yea, i don't see us taking an OL at 11 tbh at this point, problem is other than Mason Graham I don't see a DL worth it, there is some talk that we really like Derrick Harmon but 11 is a bit rich. that's just give me Jihaad Campbell at 11 and address the interior on day two.