Coby's Next Contract

[sco]

Bulls shut down multiple teams calling for Coby White trade

"'I know multiple teams tried to trade for Coby this summer,' the NBA exec said. 'There was some chatter that he was almost traded on draft night. The Bulls love him, though. He’s not going anywhere. They have shot down trade inquiries for him,'" an NBA executive toldDallas Hoops Journal.

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Wonder what "almost traded on draft night" means? Wonder if there was a deal for 2 1sts.

I believe AK has every intention of resigning Coby...as much as I think it caps our upside. Still Coby has impressed me with his offseason improvement. 1 or 2 more such improvements might get him close to being that true #1 option we need.

[rosenthall]

Coby can score efficiently. There’s no valid argument against that. My biggest reason for keeping him is his improvements in ball handling and change of pace when he gets in the paint. He’s become very shifty down there, and it’s paying off. You can tell he works really hard on his game, he’s unselfish, and I can only see him getting better.

I would love to sign him for the same $20-$25M as Giddey. I think he’ll still be very movable if we decide to go in a different direction.

I dunno ........

Before this season Coby didn't actually score all that efficiently. This last season is the first one where he didn't have negative TS Add. He was negative this year as well up until the all star break. And the Simons and Sexton deals re-calibrated what I think players of Coby's ilk are worth to other teams. You can squabble over his strengths and weakness compared to those guys, but they are all the same size, similar age, and have output that looks really similar to me. If anything, Coby is the laggard of the group.

If all you can do is score, but not play-make or defend, you have to be really, really, good at it for teams to want you. Zach is proof of that. If your efficiency drops just a little, you're not worth much more than the MLE.

[Ccwatercraft]

It's so.hard.to.make any assumptions except that he would have.value with a majority of strong playoff teams with the current value contract. I still prefer him to stay, bit it seems like the giddey situation might convince him to take a deal elsewhere.

Frankly if we had gone after a defensive big, like sorber vs Noa I'd feel better about our defense and we need lots of it with Giddey and coby on the floor together. I wanted a vuc replacement in the draft so we can move him down the depth chart or out.next year.

[rosenthall]

End of the day, I think I'd rather pay up for Giddey than Coby if I had to choose. Giddey's a more challenging roster fit, but he has a higher ceiling, and I think people don't appreciate that the Bulls are in a perfect position to build around him. I think a Giddey-led offense can win a playoff series. I don't think that's possible with Coby.

With Coby I get the impression that, despite his improvements, he's still a regular season guy and there are at least 10 other guys in the league just like him.

It might be an overreaction, but his performance against the Heat in the play-in game still irks me. It was the third time in a row we've faced them, he was supposedly coming of age, and he just wilted like a flower. Like he had the previous two times we played them.

[sco]

End of the day, I think I'd rather pay up for Giddey than Coby if I had to choose. Giddey's a more challenging roster fit, but he has a higher ceiling, and I think people don't appreciate that the Bulls are in a perfect position to build around him. I think a Giddey-led offense can win a playoff series. I don't think that's possible with Coby.

With Coby I get the impression that, despite his improvements, he's still a regular season guy and there are at least 10 other guys in the league just like him.

It might be an overreaction, but his performance against the Heat in the play-in game still irks me. It was the third time in a row we've faced them, he was supposedly coming of age, and he just wilted like a flower. Like he had the previous two times we played them.

I tend to agree with you. I think that a contending version of this Bulls team needs a better #1 scoring option than Coby, and if they got one, Coby's value is lower because he is a scorer and not a defender.

[Stratmaster]

I guess the numbers being thrown around for Coby now are 30-40 mil a season.

And we thought Lavine's contract was bad, or that over 25 mil is a mistake to pay Giddey.

If the Bulls pay Coby 30 mil per (or more) THAT would be ensuring the Bulls don't contend for anything meaningful the next 5 seasons