Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague

[Jamaaliver]

Detroit now has Drummond and Montiejunas as RFA - will they resign both. Drummond will be looking for max money. If Montie gets over his back issue as a young big he'll be looking to get paid also. Tobias is paid.
Oh and I think they are still paying Josh Smith.

Good thing that salary cap is going up and DET has club control of all those young players....it's almost like they planned it that way.

A friend of mine worked for Pistons for a few years, he acknowledged it was tough to bring in Free Agents to a dying city like Detroit. So their front office now realizes it's easier to acquire guys already under contract in trade.

Brilliant tactic. One I hope Bud and Wes take note of.

Don't know if it will work out on the court. (I still think they could use a vet presence.) But they are flush with young, controllable talent approaching their primes. Pistons can be players in the trade market for years to come as they attempt to build around Drummond.

[atlantabbq99]

Now that the deadline has pass. This seems like the most logical trade for Teague on draft day.

If the Pacers get 8th or miss the playoffs...

Teague for George Hill and Indy's first round pick

Teague goes home to Indy and Indy shouldn't have to worry about resigning their hometown kid.

Hill is reunited with Budz and can serve as Dennis' backup and Hawks also get a mid round pick. Hill wouldn't also have the same problems in learning the system like Hardaway Jr because Hill has been a Spur before.

[ATL Boy]

Looks like Bud asked the Bucks for Middleton, and they rejected.

I've given Bud the GM a lot for heat, but he did the right thing not trading Teague to the Bucks. Looks like they took the wings off the table, and they have nothing else I would want.


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[Jamaaliver]

Looks like Bud asked the Bucks for Middleton, and they rejected.

I've given Bud the GM a lot for heat, but he did the right thing not trading Teague to the Bucks. Looks like they took the wings off the table, and they have nothing else I would want.


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Yeah, the only way we could engage MIL in trade for JT0 was for one of their young wings.

I wonder if we'd offered Teague straight up last summer (when Teague's stock was higher) for Middleton in a sign and trade...if KM or MIL would have been interested .

I also wonder if a trade centered around Millsap & Teague for Monroe/Middleton/Henson package could have been worked out.

[observer1995]

Yeah, the only way we could engage MIL in trade for JT0 was for one of their young wings.

I wonder if we'd offered Teague straight up last summer (when Teague's stock was higher) for Middleton in a sign and trade...if KM or MIL would have been interested .

I also wonder if a trade centered around Millsap & Teague for Monroe/Middleton/Henson package could have been worked out.

This was actually the 2nd time they turned down this trade, they turned it down in the summer too.

Teague's value was never EVER that high if that's true...

[observer1995]

Yeah, the only way we could engage MIL in trade for JT0 was for one of their young wings.

I wonder if we'd offered Teague straight up last summer (when Teague's stock was higher) for Middleton in a sign and trade...if KM or MIL would have been interested .

I also wonder if a trade centered around Millsap & Teague for Monroe/Middleton/Henson package could have been worked out.

This was actually the 2nd time they turned down this trade, they turned it down in the summer too.

Teague's value was never EVER that high if that's true... People likely saw his 2015 as a 100% fluke.

[skones]

Looks like Bud asked the Bucks for Middleton, and they rejected.

I've given Bud the GM a lot for heat, but he did the right thing not trading Teague to the Bucks. Looks like they took the wings off the table, and they have nothing else I would want.


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Yeah, the only way we could engage MIL in trade for JT0 was for one of their young wings.

I wonder if we'd offered Teague straight up last summer (when Teague's stock was higher) for Middleton in a sign and trade...if KM or MIL would have been interested .

I also wonder if a trade centered around Millsap & Teague for Monroe/Middleton/Henson package could have been worked out.

The answer is no to pretty much all of the above. Millsap doesnt have any value to us given his age and position with Giannis and Jabari being a priority. The value gap between Teague and Middleton is pretty significant IMO.

[Geaux_Hawks]

It's time to hand the team over to DS now. Teague should just come off the bench and give us a punch off the bench. Hopefully increase his value as a sixth man.

[Jamaaliver]

It's time to hand the team over to DS now. Teague should just come off the bench and give us a punch off the bench. Hopefully increase his value as a sixth man.

We should have foreseen this last summer. We HAVE to stop waiting for our players to decline before we decide to move them.

You trade a stock at its highest worth. Not when the value is tanked.

We made the exact same mistake with Josh Smith.

The owners change. The GMs change. The coaches change...and yet we still make the same damn mistakes.


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[atlantabbq99]

Looks like Bud asked the Bucks for Middleton, and they rejected.

I've given Bud the GM a lot for heat, but he did the right thing not trading Teague to the Bucks. Looks like they took the wings off the table, and they have nothing else I would want.


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Looks like Budz was asking for Middleton or Hood. I'm glad Budz had a high asking price for Teague and didn't back down when he got low offers.

[Geaux_Hawks]

It's time to hand the team over to DS now. Teague should just come off the bench and give us a punch off the bench. Hopefully increase his value as a sixth man.

We should have foreseen this last summer. We HAVE to stop waiting for our players to decline before we decide to move them.

You trade a stock at its highest worth. Not when the value is tanked.

We made the exact same mistake with Josh Smith.

The owners change. The GMs change. The coaches change...and yet we still make the same damn mistakes.


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The thing is, I was fully expecting the Hawks to make a significant move with one of our PG's last summer, but they didn't. So I figured that possibly they were only waiting to see how Dennis would fare in the early part of this year, and make a move way before the deadline based on that.

Now, we're hoping to get a late first from some team that's looking to compete next year, and I could see us getting, but we totally cut ourselves out of our own value.

[HMFFL]

So, according to hoopshype.com rumors, Minny offered Ricky Rubio for who we wanted from the Bucks. Khris Middleton being the prize return that Minny wanted, and we wanted, by offering them Teague. Both shutdown.

Jon Krawczynski: Lot of questions about Rubio-Middleton talks tonight. Here’s what I was told at the time from multiple people… Bucks called several times that week trying to get Rubio. Each time they were told “Khris Middleton has to be involved to have talks.” And each time the Bucks said they wouldn’t part with Middleton. So that was the end of that.
– via Twitter APkrawczynski

[HMFFL]

and more

After some initial talks, the Wolves told Milwaukee they would swap Ricky Rubio for Khris Middelton, and when the Bucks declined, Minnesota even discussed the possibility of tossing in a protected 2016 first-round pick, per league sources familiar with the matter. Other outlets have reported Milwaukee’s interest in Rubio — Jason Kidd seems to have a thing for rangy point guards with busted jumpers — but Milwaukee never seriously entertained trading Middleton, sources say.
– via ESPN.com

[King Ken]

So, according to hoopshype.com rumors, Minny offered Ricky Rubio for who we wanted from the Bucks. Khris Middleton being the prize return that Minny wanted, and we wanted, by offering them Teague. Both shutdown.

Jon Krawczynski: Lot of questions about Rubio-Middleton talks tonight. Here’s what I was told at the time from multiple people… Bucks called several times that week trying to get Rubio. Each time they were told “Khris Middleton has to be involved to have talks.” And each time the Bucks said they wouldn’t part with Middleton. So that was the end of that.
– via Twitter APkrawczynski

Makes sense, no one on there roster outside of the three swing man make any sense whatsoever.

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[Jamaaliver]

Here's hoping Teague's improved play post trade-deadline will lead to a solid return in value fit JT0.

But knowing Bud, it'll probably just muddy the waters and convince him to keep Teague for let another season.


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[ATL Boy]

Here's hoping Teague's improved play post trade-deadline will lead to a solid return in value fit JT0.

But knowing Bud, it'll probably just muddy the waters and convince him to keep Teague for let another season.


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Yup, I don't trust Bud as a GM much at all. We're watching Teague completely die on the vine before our vary eyes.

[No-Man]

I dont really see many suitors for Jeff this summer, UTH is out with Exum back, BRK has nothing to offer, IND got Lawson, SAC could be interesting if they, like they should, do not re-sign Rondo I guess, and that's all.
I guess MIL or CHI could be interested, although they probably wont give up much, getting a big offer for him its unlikely but come 2017 offseason you are going to lose him or Schröder and you will get even less in FEB, so the team must move on from one this offseason.

[King Ken]

I dont really see many suitors for Jeff this summer, UTH is out with Exum back, BRK has nothing to offer, IND got Lawson, SAC could be interesting if they, like they should, do not re-sign Rondo I guess, and that's all.
I guess MIL or CHI could be interested, although they probably wont give up much, getting a big offer for him its unlikely but come 2017 offseason you are going to lose him or Schröder and you will get even less in FEB, so the team must move on from one this offseason.

The Sixers, Knicks and Kings are possibilities. Indiana was never a serious suitor. Who's knows what may happen. Keeping Teague isn't a bad option even if he walks. That two headed monster at PG is pretty good for us.

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[King Ken]

Here's hoping Teague's improved play post trade-deadline will lead to a solid return in value fit JT0.

But knowing Bud, it'll probably just muddy the waters and convince him to keep Teague for let another season.


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He needs to play like he did v. The LA teams and not like he did v. Golden State

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[No-Man]

I dont really see many suitors for Jeff this summer, UTH is out with Exum back, BRK has nothing to offer, IND got Lawson, SAC could be interesting if they, like they should, do not re-sign Rondo I guess, and that's all.
I guess MIL or CHI could be interested, although they probably wont give up much, getting a big offer for him its unlikely but come 2017 offseason you are going to lose him or Schröder and you will get even less in FEB, so the team must move on from one this offseason.

The Sixers, Knicks and Kings are possibilities. Indiana was never a serious suitor. Who's knows what may happen. Keeping Teague isn't a bad option even if he walks. That two headed monster at PG is pretty good for us.

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The Knicks are going to go in the opposite direction, probably move out from Anthony and build around KP, 76ers could have interest in Schröder, doubt they will in Teague who will likely walk out in a year from them.
Kings are a possibility, but again they wont have much tooffer, and I wont deal out a top10 pick if I were them for a guy with only a year left in his deal.
They could likely get better options, like Bledsoe, for that same pick.

Losing Jeff for nothing would be disastrous.