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[Snidely FC]

I heard that the Knicks might put a bounty on Kemba on Friday night's game for injuring Chandler. They are very salty about this injury.

with the way his shooting looked tonight maybe the safe thing would be to not play Kemba Fri

[mrknowitall215]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

[MasterIchiro]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

They're definitely worse than most fan's expectations. Does it hurt them to not have a bonafide point guard?

[HornetJail]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

They suck. They flat out suck. Favors, Kanter, and Hayward are their only top-8-rotation-caliber players right now. Brandon Rush only got back from his ACL last year, Trey Burke is hurt for god knows how long. Alec Burks hasn't shown anything to warrant calling him a key rotation player on a good team. The rest of the roster is filled with the Biedrins, Tinsleys, and John Lucas's of the NBA, who really won't crack the rotation on most playoff teams. Only so much you can do when you're going 3-on-5 at best most nights. Granted those three are pretty good, but they can't carry that team anywhere.

[mrknowitall215]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

They're definitely worse than most fan's expectations. Does it hurt them to not have a bonafide point guard?

I think it definitely does hurt them not to have a bonafide point guard, especially with Trey Burke out with a hand injury, but I was hoping I could find another reasoning from somebody who actually watch their games. I've been hearing the PG excuse for Utah for the past 4-5 years

[fatlever]

more fun with mullens' stats

% of three pointers attempted vs total field goal attempted

2009/10 - 0%
2010/11 - 0%
2011/12 - 1%
2012/13 - 37%
2013/14 - 74%

[Eoghan]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

Three of those 5 teams are pretty good. The other two, Phoenix and Boston, aren't flat out terrible (maybe Boston is). Utah's biggest problems are no PG and no bench.

[mrknowitall215]

more fun with mullens' stats

% of three pointers attempted vs total field goal attempted

2009/10 - 0%
2010/11 - 0%
2011/12 - 1%
2012/13 - 37%
2013/14 - 74%

Byron Mullens will be out of the league as soon as after this season. Every time I watched the Clippers this season his teammates have been frustrated with his play, offensively & defensively. It's pretty annoying to watch a 7-footer woefully try to strip shots at the rim instead of block them

[MPM]

more fun with mullens' stats

% of three pointers attempted vs total field goal attempted

2009/10 - 0%
2010/11 - 0%
2011/12 - 1%
2012/13 - 37%
2013/14 - 74%

Would be interested to see how that creepy-high 74% compares to someone who actually makes 3's for a living like Curry.

[mrknowitall215]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

Three of those 5 teams are pretty good. The other two, Phoenix and Boston, aren't flat out terrible (maybe Boston is). Utah's biggest problems are no PG and no bench.

I'm beginning to think that they miss Al Jefferson & Paul Milsap more than they know. I'll wait until Trey Burke return to truly watch them to at least give me some excitement, but I'm a little surprised that they've looked like the worst team in the league so far. I thought they'd be the new Portland Trailblazers, competing anywhere from 8th to 12th seed in the West. It's still relatively early though, so they have time to improve in not look like a top 3 pick team

[MPM]

more fun with mullens' stats

% of three pointers attempted vs total field goal attempted

2009/10 - 0%
2010/11 - 0%
2011/12 - 1%
2012/13 - 37%
2013/14 - 74%

Would be interested to see how that creepy-high 74% compares to someone who actually makes 3's for a living like Curry.

Answered my own question - bball ref says that Curry shoots 56% of his shots from 3, at a gaudy 46% rate.

[LamarMatic7]

lol. Zach Lowe on Gerald Wallace

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIah1NdzYhQ[/youtube]

[LamarMatic7]

I don't watch many of any Utah Jazz games, but could somebody tell me why they're 0-5 if they are supposed to have a surplus of young talent waiting to breakout. If I can recall, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Gordon Hayward are all supposed to be studs that are better than any of the Bobcats young players according to most publications

Three of those 5 teams are pretty good. The other two, Phoenix and Boston, aren't flat out terrible (maybe Boston is). Utah's biggest problems are no PG and no bench.

I'm beginning to think that they miss Al Jefferson & Paul Milsap more than they know. I'll wait until Trey Burke return to truly watch them to at least give me some excitement, but I'm a little surprised that they've looked like the worst team in the league so far. I thought they'd be the new Portland Trailblazers, competing anywhere from 8th to 12th seed in the West. It's still relatively early though, so they have time to improve in not look like a top 3 pick team

You really thought so? I had them as one of the four worst teams in the league alongside the Sixers, Suns and Magic.

[Liver_Pooty]

lol. Zach Lowe on Gerald Wallace

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIah1NdzYhQ[/youtube]

Lowe is spot on. All Wallace does anymore is bitch and moan. He was once my favorite player, but hes beginning to get annoying.

[mrknowitall215]

You really thought so? I had them as one of the four worst teams in the league alongside the Sixers, Suns and Magic.

I guess I never really gave it much thought because I barely ever pay attention to the Jazz, but as much as people talked about Jefferson/Milsap holding back Kanter/Favors and this new emergence of Hayward being the go-to guy I thought they would at least pick up where they left off last season

[HornetJail]

lol. Zach Lowe on Gerald Wallace

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIah1NdzYhQ[/youtube]

He was pissed when we traded him, because he hated moving across the country. Now that's happened three times to him in the last 2 1/2 years. He wanted to settle down in one place. I love Gerald to death, but he needs to shut up and play or just retire if he's not even going to try. I hope for his sake he gets traded to a competitive team that can actually use him as a defensive player rather than the garbage BRK was pulling last year.

[HornetJail]

You really thought so? I had them as one of the four worst teams in the league alongside the Sixers, Suns and Magic.

I guess I never really gave it much thought because I barely ever pay attention to the Jazz, but as much as people talked about Jefferson/Milsap holding back Kanter/Favors and this new emergence of Hayward being the go-to guy I thought they would at least pick up where they left off last season

The way Jazz fans talk about those three, you'd think they'd rival any frontcourt in the league. But in reality, Kanter and Favors are still prospects who are still coming along, and Hayward is a high-end role player/average starter who can do a lot of things well, but nothing to warrant spending crazy money on. That team wouldn't come close to the playoffs even if Trey Burke was playing. They'll be the second worst team in the West after Phoenix.

[fatlever]

wallace is in a really bad situation. you cant blame the older players for chasing one last big contract, but it comes with a lot of risk, not financial, but risk of not being able to choose where to play.

wallace as at the point in his career where he should be a role playing defensive/energy guy off the bench for a playoff team. sadly he is getting paid like a borderline all-star. the length of this deal makes it very difficult for him to be traded to a good situation.

if he only had one year left he could tough it out and then sign for a playoff team this summer or at the very least he would have an easier time finding a trade. but he is looking at 3 years in boston for a team that is going to suck for all 3 of those years. in 3 years wallace will be basically out of the league. he doesnt have time left for another contract.

you can't blame a guy like wallace for asking for and receiving a 4y/40mil deal in the twilight of his career. that being said, vets who are happy with the money they have made and are now playing for the chance at a ring should start considering the idea of only signing one year deals even when more years are offered. you just never know when you will get traded to a bad team and then be stuck playing meaningless games as you end your career.

[LamarMatic7]

You really thought so? I had them as one of the four worst teams in the league alongside the Sixers, Suns and Magic.

I guess I never really gave it much thought because I barely ever pay attention to the Jazz, but as much as people talked about Jefferson/Milsap holding back Kanter/Favors and this new emergence of Hayward being the go-to guy I thought they would at least pick up where they left off last season

The way Jazz fans talk about those three, you'd think they'd rival any frontcourt in the league. But in reality, Kanter and Favors are still prospects who are still coming along, and Hayward is a high-end role player/average starter who can do a lot of things well, but nothing to warrant spending crazy money on. That team wouldn't come close to the playoffs even if Trey Burke was playing. They'll be the second worst team in the West after Phoenix.

yep, basically that's it. Hayward is a decent and promising wing but not ready to be the best player on the floor, if Burke wouldn't be injured, he'd be one of two starting rookie point guards in a league where there are a ton of great PGs, and Kanter and Favors are just projects in the making. You could think that they were demolishing every other bench in the league, but when the two of them hit the court the Jazz only beat the opponents by 1.1 point per 100 possessions. Add Burks and the three of them actually lost their match-up.

Nice talent, but a long way to go.

[JDR720]

watching the Clipper vs Heat game 3mins left in 1st quarter and still a lot of empty seats what a great fanbase they have in Miami