Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet

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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#261 » by ocelot17 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:31 pm

Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.

"The structure of Chandlers contract was virtually impossible to be tradeable"



"We have the ability to make the trades that got us james harden"

It was a very tough decision but ultimately the right one.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#262 » by baki » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:34 pm

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Am I missing something on Johnson ? 14.2 PPG 4.5 APG .430 FG% .234 3P% SUMMER LEAGUE surely Houston hopes aren't completely on his shoulders ..


You're right, according to some people anybody is better than Lin right? :roll: And Daniels only plays a handful of games to shoot spot up 3 pointers (like Novak which you had one time), there's no way he can become the playmaker for the Rockets let alone Beverley so we've got no quality PGs on our team.

Let's face it, Dallas came out better in the deal and are better prepared for the next few years, solid rotation of players, solid coach, solid owner. We definitely came out worst, so now we'll have to rely on luck and everybody elses bad luck to improve on last year, of course i don't wish bad luck on anyone.



Hey I am not knocking their young Summer League / D Leaguer being a Dallas fan I hope Ledo turns into the next superstar . But I damn sure aint basing Dallas record on it . If Ledo can get 5-10 MPG with the Varsity squad this year I will be happy


I was not referring to you no worries, I was referring to the obsessed Lin haters who thinks some draft guy is immediately better than Lin.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#263 » by Nyphantom » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:35 pm

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Parsons was not exactly caught off guard when he learned the Rockets had chosen not to match the Mavericks' offer sheet.

"I'm not surprised," Parsons said. "That's up to them. At the end of the day it's a business. They have to do what's best for their future moving forward. It's out of my control. That was on them."

"I viewed myself as an up and coming star in this league," Parsons said. "They were the ones that made the offer and look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority.

"I want a bigger role. (Mavericks owner) Mark Cuban and Coach (Rick) Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me and that's what I'll be in Dallas. I couldn't be more excited for the opportunity."


The culture Morey fosters filters down. Do players even give a damn when they leave the Rockets? I mean, they drafted Parsons and developed him. He wasn't just some journeyman.


Carl Landry was another homegrown second round talent that felt disrespected by Morey and gave no **** when he was traded out of Houston.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#264 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:39 pm

ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.

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He messed up. Its really that simple. He cost himself a good player when he didn't have to. He can spin it anyway he wants, but ultimately that's the reallity here.

Now its an overpay and once he put himself into this position he did the right thing, but there's no denying once Dallas made that offer he didnt have any good options left and he should never have let another team put him in that position.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#265 » by HotrodBeaubois » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:43 pm

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Yea, sure why not. I don't think you really believe its that impossible. I dunno...what odds would you give me on Houston breaking 55 wins? Pretty high I'd guess.



with this roster 100-1 ....I doubt they get anywhere near 50 Wins and damn sure wont be making any kind of run in the playoffs if they even make it other than running out of the building after a 4 game sweep to the #1 Seed


I'll take $10 at 100-1.



Well you better start saving your RealGM Dollars now because that's a bet you would lose ... Don't get me wrong Houston can make a few moves and be respectable and MAYBE make the playoffs but no way do the make any real noise . Anybody they do get they will have to gain chemistry in the system if you call it that .. Even then who can they get anyway ?

What I see happening this year is since Parsons is gone Haren will go full on SuperFlopFest and we will see nothing but Haren ISo Ball all year . Probably pissing Howard off and him demanding a trade
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#266 » by HotrodBeaubois » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:44 pm

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You're right, according to some people anybody is better than Lin right? :roll: And Daniels only plays a handful of games to shoot spot up 3 pointers (like Novak which you had one time), there's no way he can become the playmaker for the Rockets let alone Beverley so we've got no quality PGs on our team.

Let's face it, Dallas came out better in the deal and are better prepared for the next few years, solid rotation of players, solid coach, solid owner. We definitely came out worst, so now we'll have to rely on luck and everybody elses bad luck to improve on last year, of course i don't wish bad luck on anyone.



Hey I am not knocking their young Summer League / D Leaguer being a Dallas fan I hope Ledo turns into the next superstar . But I damn sure aint basing Dallas record on it . If Ledo can get 5-10 MPG with the Varsity squad this year I will be happy


I was not referring to you no worries, I was referring to the obsessed Lin haters who thinks some draft guy is immediately better than Lin.



No I know ...No worries
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#267 » by HotrodBeaubois » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:47 pm

ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.

"The structure of Chandlers contract was virtually impossible to be tradeable"



"We have the ability to make the trades that got us james harden"

It was a very tough decision but ultimately the right one.



Tell me again how Morey knows what it takes to win a Title
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#268 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:49 pm

Q00 wrote:Honestly Morey is smart for not matching. That is WAY too much for Parsons. But he is dumb for putting himself in a situation where he had to match a max offer, when he could've just kept him on a rookie contract for another year. He created this problem, not Dallas.







This is the correct verdict. Yes he did the right thing in not getting tied up with that salary amount, however he made an unforced major error by making him a FA when he could have kept him at a low salary for another year. He could have kept and traded him if his intention was to get rid of him. Its was an idiotic slap in the face. Morey likes to act like he is smarter than everyone else, but he looks really dumb right now.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#269 » by jmomcc » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:51 pm

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with this roster 100-1 ....I doubt they get anywhere near 50 Wins and damn sure wont be making any kind of run in the playoffs if they even make it other than running out of the building after a 4 game sweep to the #1 Seed


I'll take $10 at 100-1.



Well you better start saving your RealGM Dollars now because that's a bet you would lose ... Don't get me wrong Houston can make a few moves and be respectable and MAYBE make the playoffs but no way do the make any real noise . Anybody they do get they will have to gain chemistry in the system if you call it that .. Even then who can they get anyway ?

What I see happening this year is since Parsons is gone Haren will go full on SuperFlopFest and we will see nothing but Haren ISo Ball all year . Probably pissing Howard off and him demanding a trade


I mean I don't think its likely they will break 55 wins but I think 100/1 is a great bet.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#270 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:53 pm

ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.

"The structure of Chandlers contract was virtually impossible to be tradeable"



"We have the ability to make the trades that got us james harden"

It was a very tough decision but ultimately the right one.




The spin machine is on full force lol. LOL at Morey.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#271 » by Effigy » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:56 pm

ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.



But Morey's team is the one who found Chandler Parsons. When did they win a title? The team that just signed him won one in the last 4 years....
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#272 » by Ginger Bean » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:04 pm

Morey spinning like he's some kind of politician... :noway:
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#273 » by HotrodBeaubois » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:27 pm

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I'll take $10 at 100-1.



Well you better start saving your RealGM Dollars now because that's a bet you would lose ... Don't get me wrong Houston can make a few moves and be respectable and MAYBE make the playoffs but no way do the make any real noise . Anybody they do get they will have to gain chemistry in the system if you call it that .. Even then who can they get anyway ?

What I see happening this year is since Parsons is gone Haren will go full on SuperFlopFest and we will see nothing but Haren ISo Ball all year . Probably pissing Howard off and him demanding a trade


I mean I don't think its likely they will break 55 wins but I think 100/1 is a great bet.



Yea 100-1 is a great long shot bet but not winnable ... But I do think I will go lay $100 on my Mavs at 33-1
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Post#275 » by CaseySmalls » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:39 pm

Morey loves his revolving door of star players. No wonder no big name free agents want to sign there - they know they'll just get unloaded the following year in a salary dump as Morey takes yet another run at a new and exciting free agent class.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#276 » by CaseySmalls » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:43 pm

ocelot17 wrote:"The structure of Chandlers contract was virtually impossible to be tradeable".


Morey is terrified at the thought of having to keep a player for the duration of his 3 year contract... :lol:
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#277 » by jmomcc » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:48 pm

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Well you better start saving your RealGM Dollars now because that's a bet you would lose ... Don't get me wrong Houston can make a few moves and be respectable and MAYBE make the playoffs but no way do the make any real noise . Anybody they do get they will have to gain chemistry in the system if you call it that .. Even then who can they get anyway ?

What I see happening this year is since Parsons is gone Haren will go full on SuperFlopFest and we will see nothing but Haren ISo Ball all year . Probably pissing Howard off and him demanding a trade


I mean I don't think its likely they will break 55 wins but I think 100/1 is a great bet.




Yea 100-1 is a great long shot bet but not winnable ... But I do think I will go lay $100 on my Mavs at 33-1


To win it all? That's not bad imo. Chandler could make you guys legitimate threats again.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#278 » by baki » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:52 pm

LOL, I don't think any of Morey's excuses matter anymore, he blew it because he got arrogant, nothing more nothing less.

But we got Ariza so we're heading for a championship! :-p
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#279 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:54 pm

Morey likes to take pride being in the smartest guy in the room. He takes pride in winning every trade he makes. However he has now come across an adversary that even he can't overcome. An adversary that made him look foolish. That adversary is Morey himself, for Morey cannot overcome his own self.

You ever heard the phrase that "you are too smart for your own good". Morey just found that out. Morey thought it was a smart move to opt out of Parsons's small contract. Morey now knows that Morey was wrong.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#280 » by ChrisTheFuturePaul » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:02 pm

I dont get how so many people are blowing up about teams overpaying free agents yet when Morey lets someone walk who he felt wasnt worth the contract every calls him a fail? Houston wants to win now, Ariza is only a very slight downgrade to Parsons that won't cost you games.

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